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Hans Koraeus

Here's another idea.

You could look at all the courses documented for this purpose as a sort of "template slalom courses".

So when you want to run some slalom you set your course according to one of the existing templates.

You run it, take the time and voilà!
You just did some "Template slalom".

Hans Koraeus

I have a neat little device that measures degrees I got at Home Depot for about $9.00 Its a good way to a see what the pitch of a hill is and might contribute to the cause just for referance purposes. I found ARAB's posting about pitch measurement. Would be nice to have some more info of this neat ...

Hans Koraeus

John, I'm sending you over the graph with your values. Hopefully without any errors. One of the things I "tweaked" into my suggestion was to erase any "black holes". I.e. that someone could set a course with average cone distance between Super Tight and Super G that did not fit into any of the disci...

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So, here we go. Someone has to dare to do it. A first example of defining disciplines from cone distances. The main points behind the theory: - 5 distance groups that can be either straight or hybrid giving us 10 disciplines. - Average cone distance with Max and Min distances allowed in the course. ...

Hans Koraeus

About measuring the pitch of a hill. Didn't ARAB write somewhere he had found some "fancy tool/equipment" to do just this.

Wes
When I said "our brain" I didn't mean yours and mine specifically but rather human brains in general. I hope this will not make your world fall into pieces.

Hans Koraeus

Andy The average method works fine when using it as I described. But using it all alone as in your case I agrée that it doesn't work well. Having max and min cone distances for the disciplines though makes it impossible to do your proposed course. Wes Have you seen the film "A beautiful mind"? Well ...

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Offsets could be a parameter as well. But I wonder if that won't be resolved by itself using the cone distances. As I see it each discipline has a unique min and max AVERAGE cone distance. They also have min and max ALLOWED cone distances. So with a tight slalom course you will not have the same pos...

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Wes, Don't feel to bad about disagreeing with me. Your thoughts are as good as anybody elses. I respect your thinking but you will not win me over until you have convinced me. I still think your way of seeing it will make it very delicat to decide weather a course is of one or another type. Since ri...

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Glenn, are you a mind reader or what? As you know I have also been thinking about discipline definitions lately and I have come to almost the same discipline names as you. Or maybe it's just the only logical way to do it. :cool: In contrast to some others I think a discipline should be hard linked t...

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Just some words on the pro/am concerns. The way I see it it's not correctly formulated the way I see it. Pro or amateaur is not an ability label. It's a personal choice you do weather you want to win cash or not. I think the pro/am label have been misused over the years in the skateboarding history....

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Wes, I guess there are two ways to look at it. If you race only for fun and to meet friends you may not bother about what others do. But if you race to win I think tactics is a part of the game. And it may very well be the tactics that makes you win in some situations. But tactics are never easy. An...

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John, your idea is probably ok but I can't say so since I couldn't fully follow your turns. I'll just requote my previous idea in this thread and give you an even better one following it... "the hang man". 1. Qualifiction (best of 2 runs) Or with a functioning world ranking you could save a lot of t...

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Great! Having the course from bottom and up really makes a big difference. Now you can really ride it on screen. The course itself looks/feels good enough for me but then again i'm not a course setter pro. Have to ask Gilmour about that. The only thing I don't like (I just had to find something to c...

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Chris, The ability level is a problem when doing competitions. I know it beacuse when I started to enter some slalom competitions with Jani in the 90's I had to compete with him and all these other extreamly good riders as there where not enough beginners to have us separated. That was really depres...

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Brian, I was administrating the ISSA ranking a couple of years until the european slalom scene went dead end of 1995. That ranking was meant as a world ranking. It would be great to start up that work again. But there are some things we have to clarify before that. That's why I'm pushing for a place...

Hans Koraeus

Nice drawing!

I wish it would have been done the other way around though, i.e. start at the bottom and the finish at the top. That way it's much easier running through it in your head on screen.

Hans Koraeus

Great artwork they've got there. But I found it a little bit slow to open up. I bet those images can be optimized a lot.

Hans Koraeus

I saw a picture of a slalom board in the "General slalom skateboard deck discussion" with a skyhook in front. This to avoid the front foot from moving. Through the years I have seen many simular constructions like this used now and then and I've always thought of it as a cheat. But it seems like nob...

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Eric, you shouldn't take Adams comment as anything else than his personal. I.e. a punch as good as anyones in this matter. So you should not demand of him to be neutral unless he is speaking as moderator. But I agree it is a problem to know weather it was intended from his part to speak as moderator...

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Wes, I'm in favor of cones per second rather than "wiggle per second" even though wiggles per second might be better in bed. This is because wps depends on your equipment (Gentlemen! No nasty thoughts please) while cones per second are not. At least almost not. Once again, this is an interesting top...

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Hans, what a wonderfully intelligent post.

Well, thank YOU. You really got me flattered there.

Hans Koraeus

I would like to come in contact with Bob Skoldberg and Martin Sweeny regarding a project I'm working on.

If anyone feels they can share their e-mail address(es) through away a mail to my e-mail address below (the little letter icon).

Hans Koraeus

This discussion is the main reason why ISSA (International Skateboard Slalom Association) was created many, many years ago. But then again when did we humans learn from our history. Sure the current ISSA rules could need to be overlooked again but the purpose stays the same. There is a need for all ...

Hans Koraeus

1. Get up on a slalom board again
2. Get that damn thing moving faster
3. Enter a competition
4. Get a nice looking photo of me doing it to put under my name in this forum. (The "nice looking" bit will be the real challenge.)

Hans Koraeus

It's "off topic" all right. Hopefully "off forum" very soon...

Hans Koraeus

Yes, yes, yes! It works! After a quick look at the CAD/CAM scene on the web I very quickly lost my enthusiasm. It's a jungle and totaly another world. Since I'm a programmer myself I thought I would be able to understand such a program. But the one I tried was like rocket science to me. The same nig...

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John, about problems with a tapeswitch on the first cone I can only speak for myself (not very experienced slalom skater). I guess if you use a tapeswitch that is too high it would be annoying. The only tapeswitches I have experience of is Jani's (that has been used on many european competitions for...

Hans Koraeus

The fact that the start is at the first cone and finishes at the last cone (we could assume at the edge of the cone not the center of the cone) and that the start is open...makes the start a non issue. John, I'm afraid to say that if you assume start and finish at the edge of the cone it is an issu...

Hans Koraeus

This sounds great! I have plans on something similar. Gary or anyone else with an opinion. Any tips about about how to organize beginner classes for slalom? What to start with and so on. Should one go directly for a simple mini course of 5-6 cones? Timing runs from the beginning? Or is there need fo...

Hans Koraeus

The advantage with freeform cone spacing is that you can set it to fit the slope you are using. Since 100 cones is a long way it's hard to get a perfect slope (even though I agree that we don't know what the perfect slope is yet). If steep you might want to set longer spacing. If flat you might want...

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Andy, I agree that it's possible to do a "well set-up starting situation" without a ramp. But that's only half of the problem solved. It's the skaters doing foot pushes that gives me a feeling of practice session more than a serious/professional contest feeling. This doesn't mean you can't have a re...

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Chris, that's the best I've seen so far. I think we are closing in on the official rules here. 1. 100 straight full sized cones, timed from first to last. 2. A cone penalty (and possible cap for a DQ) Blaze into a 100 cone straight course with whatever start you like, on any hill, with any slope, wi...

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Brian, I agree that you do need start ramps to make your competition look more professional and yes it makes location selection a lot easier. I don't agree with John in the sense of the need of a hill to do a slalom competition. In the worst scenario (totally flat) you will just have to skip the gia...

Hans Koraeus

It's quite amazing how we get all this discussion on the rules when the initial idea was to make the rules so damn simple. I fear the day we will start to talk about the rules for the already existing disciplines. I don't see the 100-cones thing as a media spectable. It's a discipline like the other...

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Vlad, For most of us the record is not within our reach anyway but that doesn't mean we can't get serious about it. It's just that there are offical and not official results. And the fastest skaters may go for the world record. If that's not reached they have the worlds fastest time of the year that...

Hans Koraeus

Gary, Of course you can compare since the rules are (apart from the 100 cones)... - Whatever hill you like. - Start with as much speed as you like. The thing is to get into the course in your max cone speed and keep that speed until the end. It's as simple as that (in theory). The tricky thing is th...

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Is there anyone with own experience of kneepads really working? I.e. doing slalom down an asphalt road in full speed, bailing, sliding on your knees with the kneepads and afterwards still having the kneepads ON your knees.

Or is the only true solution buying a pair of Gilmours leather pants?

Hans Koraeus

I have some nice ideas but it's difficult to contribute in a good way. It would be great with a 3D modelling program. Anyone into CAD/CAM or knows an easy to use program for this task?

Hans Koraeus

I don't think one can say generally that slalom is extreme or not. I guess most of the time it's not but it doesn't mean it can't be. Already the word extreme is very personal. What is extreme for one person might not be extreme for another. Often we mistake extreme for being dangerous but it's not ...

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Joachim,

What is the "SlalomEuroRacing" site adding to what we already have on this site? Isn't it better to put all our efforts into making this site and forum roll.

Hans Koraeus

I think it will be a very hard task (notice that I don't say impossible although I think it's closer to impossible than very hard) to beat Giammarco's record. To make it happen you will need... - The quickest tight slalomer around. - The most well trained slalomer around. - The perfect cone distance...

Hans Koraeus

Imagine the following scenario: Your hometown wants to do something for the kids in town. They have decided to build a "top of the art" skatepark. The money for it has been approved. They have found a person to design the pool(s), streetstyle and freestyle areas. Now they have heard something about ...

Hans Koraeus

Jag har funderat på att göra ett försök här nere i Malmö. Jag ska göra lite "research" innan våren kommer för att se om det finns något gryende slalom intresse. Problemet är som alltid... - en tidtagaranläggning. Kunde man köpa detta av 161 kanske? - en startramp. Kanske inte 100% nödvändigt för ons...

Hans Koraeus

I found this information on the web... ___________________________________ Have just burned some more DVDs of the FCR Series. I now have copies of: La Costa 2001 (includes 20 minutes of VINTAGE 70's La Costa) Battle by the Bay 2002 - San Francisco Catalina Classic 2002 Sierra Cup 2002 - Lake Tahoe B...

Hans Koraeus

Glenn, I found the link I was talking about in the topic "Course setting equipment and canned courses". http://www.roeslalom.com/SampleTight.xls I think this is the way to go. Forget about MS Paint. That's to much work and will never be exact enough. In the same forum topic above there is also a ver...

Hans Koraeus

I really like the idea of documenting slalom courses. Wasn't there a link somewhere in a forum topic to a program doing this? Anyway, I would prefer to see printouts of courses going from the bottom of the page and up. That gives you a better feel running it thru in your head on the screen. It could...

Hans Koraeus

That's a great idea! Actually I have tried to get hold of Tony, Per (Welinder) and Rodney by e-mail recently in other matters but with no luck. I guess they get tons of e-mail and I probably get filtered out. I'll have a go again soon. But if you like playing games and want some slalom feeling I hav...

Hans Koraeus

It's feels great to finally see SLALOM! on the net. The initial idea was already there in 1995. And I remember some initial tries to start something up. Unfortunatly the web hysteria came a little bit to late for us. The slaom scene in Europe went into sleep around -95 and so did we. The last SLALOM...

Hans Koraeus

John and Vlad, Come to think about it you left out one more important thing from your skills lists. Since I couldn't put any of your skills to myself I started to wonder... "Why am I doing slalom?". Well, the answer is to have fun. That's the skill I would like to add. To be able to have fun with it.

Hans Koraeus

This starts to be really funny doesn't it? With daniels comment in mind let's sum it all up again where x is any other simular cone. 1. Whatever cones are better than no cones. 2. Turner/AirFlow/x cones are better than whatever cones. And I forgot to add the third point... 3. My cones are better tha...

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