Ground Effects - Who wants them?

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If Gound Effects were available again - (Totally hypothetical) would you consider buying a pair?

Yes
9
31%
No
11
38%
Would you want R2's?
3
10%
Would you want R3's?
6
21%
 
Total votes: 29

Gareth Roe
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Ground Effects - Who wants them?

Post by Gareth Roe » Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:55 am

Is there a demand that is not being met?

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Post by Steve Collins » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:03 am

If Peter could produce them for a lot less money I'd consider buying at least one to use as a back truck. $100 range?

I think [someone] needs to be clever enough to produce a cheaper version without so many largely unused bells and whistles.

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Post by Gareth Roe » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:09 am

Steve Collins wrote: I think [someone] needs to be clever enough to produce a cheaper version without so many largely unused bells and whistles.
Steve -
What bells and whistles are you specifically talking about?
Gareth

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Post by Steve Collins » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:30 am

Gareth -

The people I know who have them all say that they never use most of the adjustment features of the trucks.

I've listened to a very well-known skater ranting about the overly adjustable nature of the trucks.

It seems they are generally adjusted once or twice and then left that way. The point being that a standard desireable adjustment could be arrived at, with the truck being made that way for most skaters.

Perhaps the only adjustment feature that these guys use regularly is the replaceable wedge angle.

Mind you, this is all hearsay ;).

Steve

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Post by Rick Stanziale » Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:49 pm

With the return of the TTC (and the availability of the Airflow TTC), it sure seems as though PVD has used up his luck.

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PVD's

Post by Barry Gourley » Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:45 pm

what are the adjustment?????
Yes I would buy them
Thanks,
Barry

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Re: PVD's

Post by Wes Eastridge » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:20 pm

barry gourley wrote:what are the adjustment?????
I believe the adjustments were for the pivot angle and the turn-limiters. The turn-limiters were adjustable stops for the hanger, with the purpose of preventing wheelrub.

Michael Stride
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Adjustments

Post by Michael Stride » Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:05 pm

My R2s are fab. The features I like are particularly the wheel bite stoppers, really useful. Unique. Hard to descibe how reasurring it is to know you can crank them hard but not rub out.
Its true that once I'd figured how I wanted them set up I left them that way, but I did use the wider axles at one race at Brands Hatch to nab second place behind Levine and I used them at Paso Robles....to beat someone called Gareth Roe, sorry! Not my most used feature though.

I'm not sure about how useful the very adjustable wheelbase is, but the lovely 8mm axles are totally needed.
Conclusion is tht I'd love to see them available again. Grippiest, most stable trucks I've got.

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Post by Vlad Popov » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:01 pm

I find useless the following:

Front PVD. There are better truck choices.
Angle plates. 30-degree non-interchangable plate can be used with or without a 6-degree standard wedge and that covers TS, GS and everything in between.
Turn limiters.


I find usefull the following:
Interchangable 8-mm axles. Only because when they bend, there's a possibility to get new ones in.
Longer plate for easy wheelbase adjustment.

Nothing seems to come close to the traction of the rear PVD. Of course I want one!!!

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PVDS

Post by Michael Stride » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:28 pm

Well each to their own....

I'll take the turn limiters....if I'm running Avilas I want them on my board.

I like the PVD as a front truck as I feel they give pin point accuracy.

So in conclusion please sell them in pairs so Vlad can give me the front ones.

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Spare Parts

Post by Sean Dawkins » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:05 pm

I find it useless that I cannot get spare parts or bushings. Otherwise they make great paperweights!

Sean D

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Post by Etienne de Bary » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:04 pm

i dream of them...

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2 sets

Post by Alan Schroeder » Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:42 pm

I need 2 sets of r3's..............
shaggy

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Post by Terry Kirby » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:23 am

I got 2 sets and would buy 2 sets more. In 30 years I'll sell them and buy a new car.

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Post by Troy Smart » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:58 am

2 sets is 1 and a half sets too many.
Vlad said it best.
All you need is a back truck.
Part with them Meiser boy.

Terrence "Meiser boy" Kirby.

Is that what you want to be known as???

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Post by Terry Kirby » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:24 pm

If Vlad said all you needed was one testical would you sell the other ?
I would like to be know as Terence"the visionary" Kirby since I have the foresight to see something great and buy it early!

350.00 buys you one R3 PVD, you know my #

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Post by Vlad Popov » Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:45 pm

<center>I'm sorry. I want two trucks. For two boards. And lotsa 92-94A bushings!

[CVS music theme]<i>One at a time...Pee-Vee-Dee...</i>[/CVS music theme]</center>

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PVD's

Post by Barry Gourley » Sat May 15, 2004 7:25 pm

Can anyone tell me what the differants in the 2's and the 3's ???????? do they have differant colors so you can tell which is which??
Thanks,
Barry

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PVD R2's

Post by Barry Gourley » Wed May 19, 2004 2:21 pm

I just bought 1 PVD R2 and i need 1 more. WHO HAS THEM??
Come on guys i know someone has one that they didnt use and would like to sell it "for a decent price" to a great guy such as myself. You know if i find out i don't like them someone here would most likely end up with it.
Thanks,
Barry

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