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Whoa Slappy, you are right, I did not notice. Congratulations on this forum!
I was honored when Vlad asked if I would put up a forum for you guys. He promised me that it would be used and has vladidated his word.
Anyway, it would be nice to see many more "pockets" of activity such as yours and I appreciate your visiting and input into the site.
Again, my appologies for the intrusion.
I was honored when Vlad asked if I would put up a forum for you guys. He promised me that it would be used and has vladidated his word.
Anyway, it would be nice to see many more "pockets" of activity such as yours and I appreciate your visiting and input into the site.
Again, my appologies for the intrusion.
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Yep. We are literally on the same page. I started “the propaganda” in the context of the Swiss race promotion.
Swiss race has nothing to do with DC, unless…unless some DC riders decide to go there. If you can only go to EU ones this year, that’s your race. That and Trocadero in Paris. Well, and maybe if you want a free stay, a free tour of Moscow, Moscow bars, Moscow night clubs and Moscow “you know” places, and St. Peterburg 2-day White-Night 300th City Anniversary trip, you can come there with me for a week for an Open Slalom Cup of Moscow at a premium location with perfect hills and asphalt with hundreds (thousands actually) of spectators and girls with tight……slalom skills. Should the Russians put it together, that is.
Quitting smoking was easier then quitting this propaganda!
Live from Langley, Virginia.
Slappy, back to you.
Swiss race has nothing to do with DC, unless…unless some DC riders decide to go there. If you can only go to EU ones this year, that’s your race. That and Trocadero in Paris. Well, and maybe if you want a free stay, a free tour of Moscow, Moscow bars, Moscow night clubs and Moscow “you know” places, and St. Peterburg 2-day White-Night 300th City Anniversary trip, you can come there with me for a week for an Open Slalom Cup of Moscow at a premium location with perfect hills and asphalt with hundreds (thousands actually) of spectators and girls with tight……slalom skills. Should the Russians put it together, that is.
Quitting smoking was easier then quitting this propaganda!
Live from Langley, Virginia.
Slappy, back to you.
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I think we're all on the same page.
I basically only come this site and more specifically the DC area because I don't care who's faster than who, and who can beat the crap outta someone else, and my bearings are better than yours, and your trucks suck and you're a kook, blah, blah, blah all in BIG CAPS.
The DC and the majority of the East Coast scene isn't about this crap.
I just wanna find out who is riding in DC and regionally what other Mid-Atlantic riders are up to.
There is a reason the DC section is the second most frequented area on this site. I would like to see it stay that way.
I basically only come this site and more specifically the DC area because I don't care who's faster than who, and who can beat the crap outta someone else, and my bearings are better than yours, and your trucks suck and you're a kook, blah, blah, blah all in BIG CAPS.
The DC and the majority of the East Coast scene isn't about this crap.
I just wanna find out who is riding in DC and regionally what other Mid-Atlantic riders are up to.
There is a reason the DC section is the second most frequented area on this site. I would like to see it stay that way.
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Sorry about the propaganda here (Slappy). But TV has more!
With regards to “I've raced in DC so I think it is okay for me to post on this forum” and similar remarks.
I think anyone can post on DC discussions any time…. should he have a related question or proposition. So far, nothing, even remotely, deserves deleting/editing. The truth exists no matter what; there are a few who know it and there are a few who choose to guard it. Friction will always exist when some facts, statements and theories are questioned and new hypotheses are suggested.
Swiss race is in June. http://www.pscontest.ch
(humor begin)There are only two kinds of people that I despise- the racists and the Dutch(humor end)
With regards to “I've raced in DC so I think it is okay for me to post on this forum” and similar remarks.
I think anyone can post on DC discussions any time…. should he have a related question or proposition. So far, nothing, even remotely, deserves deleting/editing. The truth exists no matter what; there are a few who know it and there are a few who choose to guard it. Friction will always exist when some facts, statements and theories are questioned and new hypotheses are suggested.
Swiss race is in June. http://www.pscontest.ch
(humor begin)There are only two kinds of people that I despise- the racists and the Dutch(humor end)
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I've raced in DC so I think it is okay for me to post on this forum.
Well, we all have cyber slalom to try and rank each other.
We also have some history of a 100 cone course. So find a better hill, adjust the cone spacings to suit you, ride todays new and improved gear, have a huge tailwind behind you. Your work is still cut out for you.
Or you could look at some people who raced on both cicuits. We all age- so figure the gaps don't vary by much. This is not a hard and fast rule- but some idication could be drawn. Look at Martin Draytons times over the course. Now look at the fastest racers time. What percentage was Martin's time to the fastest racer? You can also do this for Paul Price, Myself, and Beau Brown, and Paul Dunn. No offense to Strouble and crew- but their speeds compared to the speeds of Ridoli, Sidler, Diaz (1st string swiss) are not very close. Some of hte 1st string showed up at a swiss event, epecting the ISSA spacings but found themselves in a longboard event and left the competition. Hopefully we will see all the disciplines well represented at the next big Swiss race.
Now look at my results, PD's results, Paul Prices results this season. We all won something- here in the USA. But in 1993 neither PD, Myself, or Beau Brown even qualified- in fact we were near the very last....not mid pack- I have the video to prove it. We didn't even make it to the actual competition.
I thought it would be easy pickings...I lost over and over again- more often than not by more than a second in each race.
An American has never won a European slalom race for over 20 years.
So how's the weather in DC? Perhaps i could use some practice...if only I had something to ride. Only my Ed Economy is assembled...it was the first board I put together since Florida.
Well, we all have cyber slalom to try and rank each other.
We also have some history of a 100 cone course. So find a better hill, adjust the cone spacings to suit you, ride todays new and improved gear, have a huge tailwind behind you. Your work is still cut out for you.
Or you could look at some people who raced on both cicuits. We all age- so figure the gaps don't vary by much. This is not a hard and fast rule- but some idication could be drawn. Look at Martin Draytons times over the course. Now look at the fastest racers time. What percentage was Martin's time to the fastest racer? You can also do this for Paul Price, Myself, and Beau Brown, and Paul Dunn. No offense to Strouble and crew- but their speeds compared to the speeds of Ridoli, Sidler, Diaz (1st string swiss) are not very close. Some of hte 1st string showed up at a swiss event, epecting the ISSA spacings but found themselves in a longboard event and left the competition. Hopefully we will see all the disciplines well represented at the next big Swiss race.
Now look at my results, PD's results, Paul Prices results this season. We all won something- here in the USA. But in 1993 neither PD, Myself, or Beau Brown even qualified- in fact we were near the very last....not mid pack- I have the video to prove it. We didn't even make it to the actual competition.
I thought it would be easy pickings...I lost over and over again- more often than not by more than a second in each race.
An American has never won a European slalom race for over 20 years.
So how's the weather in DC? Perhaps i could use some practice...if only I had something to ride. Only my Ed Economy is assembled...it was the first board I put together since Florida.
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Hey all:
You know, it is sometimes hard to express my kind of humor and attitude in written words AND in a foreign language. I am just sure of one thing: if we get to meet in Grüningen and race in the beautiful country of Switzerland (you will love it) and have the same bluebird sky and warmth like last year all this talk and discussing in advance will only be dust after the race because the bottom line will be: WE HAD FUN TOGETHER IN PEACEFUL COMPETITION and nothing else (ok maybe a little bragging by those who earned the rights) but that is all good, you are good guys and I like sharp discussion. If we would not have different opinions we would not have to discuss, eh?
Vlad, I have a big car and ice boxes, so I will smuggle some bottles. Yes you still have to smuggle as the Swiss still have border control.
Swiss beer is not bad but expensive.
You know, it is sometimes hard to express my kind of humor and attitude in written words AND in a foreign language. I am just sure of one thing: if we get to meet in Grüningen and race in the beautiful country of Switzerland (you will love it) and have the same bluebird sky and warmth like last year all this talk and discussing in advance will only be dust after the race because the bottom line will be: WE HAD FUN TOGETHER IN PEACEFUL COMPETITION and nothing else (ok maybe a little bragging by those who earned the rights) but that is all good, you are good guys and I like sharp discussion. If we would not have different opinions we would not have to discuss, eh?
Vlad, I have a big car and ice boxes, so I will smuggle some bottles. Yes you still have to smuggle as the Swiss still have border control.
Swiss beer is not bad but expensive.
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Jack,
Comparing racers form different generations isn’t valid, but possible given the right scale. It’s hard in slalom, especially in our era of new tech equipment and different courses.
I’m especially stoked that we can race Hesters and Lucas this year. That makes it 3 generation of racers racing on the same circuit!
This thing is getting "pretty" global.
Any chances Henry, Mike, Paul and others can come to this race?
Vlad.
Comparing racers form different generations isn’t valid, but possible given the right scale. It’s hard in slalom, especially in our era of new tech equipment and different courses.
I’m especially stoked that we can race Hesters and Lucas this year. That makes it 3 generation of racers racing on the same circuit!
This thing is getting "pretty" global.
Any chances Henry, Mike, Paul and others can come to this race?
Vlad.
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Both Europe and America have produced great slalom racers. Attempting to compare racers from different slaom racing generations is futile. It's much easier to do if you
are comparing pole vaulters for example, even then you would have to rate the
pre-fiberglass pole guys against the
post-fiberglass pole guys.
It's similar to those videos you can buy comparing football or baseball teams from different eras, I have always thought they were very lame.
I'm just stoked that so many people are racing at a high level today.
are comparing pole vaulters for example, even then you would have to rate the
pre-fiberglass pole guys against the
post-fiberglass pole guys.
It's similar to those videos you can buy comparing football or baseball teams from different eras, I have always thought they were very lame.
I'm just stoked that so many people are racing at a high level today.
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First warning, Mr. Trahan! Apologize one more time on the forum that you’ve created, and your apologies will be deleted.
Wish I could go take pictures at this race, but I’ve spent all my money on Pee-Vees instead of a new camera…
Brian,
Great! You know, I think it’s a two-way thing. The more people come from overseas and the more nations are represented – the more incentives there are for the hosts to make it right and to put an extra effort in the organization of the race and post-race activities. It promises to be BIG.
And speaking of BIG:
Big people=more beer=more fun. Oh, and you go downhill faster! The Swiss like that!
Swiss guys, what kind of beer will be served?
Or is it up to you, Chris?
May I suggest.......s...r.----------------lost connection--------
Wish I could go take pictures at this race, but I’ve spent all my money on Pee-Vees instead of a new camera…
Brian,
Great! You know, I think it’s a two-way thing. The more people come from overseas and the more nations are represented – the more incentives there are for the hosts to make it right and to put an extra effort in the organization of the race and post-race activities. It promises to be BIG.
And speaking of BIG:
Big people=more beer=more fun. Oh, and you go downhill faster! The Swiss like that!
Swiss guys, what kind of beer will be served?
Or is it up to you, Chris?
May I suggest.......s...r.----------------lost connection--------
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Vlad, about ten years ago, I started writing letters by hand to JG, Jani, Deiter and others about slalom skateboarding. I did it because there were no other slalomers around. It was cool to get back a letter from Switzerland after about a month and it was tough to decifer (sp?) some of the wording, but I always got the point.
Now we have forums like this one and that one. We can talk across the globe almost in real time.
I enjoy these topics and I respect what everyone has to say, even things I don't like to hear. When these posts are respectful, then I try even harder to understand the other persons point of view. This is a neat thing to do, sometimes I even learn a little bit about about things that are not even connected but are useful.
We are brothers in this, Chris, Arab, Vladdy etc. It's nice.
I'll be at Elsinore to take pictures, write a story and experience this brotherhood in reality. When I get back, I'll bring it here.
Peace to all of you in these hard times.
adam
P.S. Sorry to invade the D.C. forum, it's Vlad's fault.
*grin*
Now we have forums like this one and that one. We can talk across the globe almost in real time.
I enjoy these topics and I respect what everyone has to say, even things I don't like to hear. When these posts are respectful, then I try even harder to understand the other persons point of view. This is a neat thing to do, sometimes I even learn a little bit about about things that are not even connected but are useful.
We are brothers in this, Chris, Arab, Vladdy etc. It's nice.
I'll be at Elsinore to take pictures, write a story and experience this brotherhood in reality. When I get back, I'll bring it here.
Peace to all of you in these hard times.
adam
P.S. Sorry to invade the D.C. forum, it's Vlad's fault.
*grin*
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Good one, Brian!
(humor begin) 10 years ago I still peed in my pants and sucked on my thumb. If I met you back then, my mom would have probably asked you to help her wipe my ass (humor end)
The point is -we've heard about "them", we've read about "them", we tried to get close to "their" existing record. We can meet AND race "them".
If the mountain doesn't come to you, you have two choices:
Essentially, that's the core of the current slalom US-EU, EU-US, West-East and East-West interactions. The only difference is the bias.
Adam, this discussion forum seems to serve its purpose well. We have many nice guests who make it more fun. When there are no stakeholders to worry about, discussions are indeed happening. Thanks for the forum!
Glenn,
maybe I shouldn't be using external validity term, because it is the extent to which the results of a test translate in real life, i.e., how much extrapolation can be done.
The term that could be used here is Power.
If you happen to capture a podium in Burke's race, what's its worth? DC races? Californian races? Swiss races? The more STRONG slalomers from all over the world are present at the race, the more powerful the results are.
This is, again, subjective. But one's subjective feeling of accomplishment supported by subjective feeling of respect of this accomplishment all over the world is worth more then the objective gold medal of the Burke's slalom championship in which I raced Slappy and no one else came because we announced it a couple of weeks in advance and thoughtfully scheduled it on the day of the Moro Bay race.
PS Today is a good day to kill...time and boost the ratings of..... this forum.
(humor begin) 10 years ago I still peed in my pants and sucked on my thumb. If I met you back then, my mom would have probably asked you to help her wipe my ass (humor end)
The point is -we've heard about "them", we've read about "them", we tried to get close to "their" existing record. We can meet AND race "them".
If the mountain doesn't come to you, you have two choices:
- Come to the mountain
- F*ck the mountain
Essentially, that's the core of the current slalom US-EU, EU-US, West-East and East-West interactions. The only difference is the bias.
Adam, this discussion forum seems to serve its purpose well. We have many nice guests who make it more fun. When there are no stakeholders to worry about, discussions are indeed happening. Thanks for the forum!
Glenn,
maybe I shouldn't be using external validity term, because it is the extent to which the results of a test translate in real life, i.e., how much extrapolation can be done.
The term that could be used here is Power.
If you happen to capture a podium in Burke's race, what's its worth? DC races? Californian races? Swiss races? The more STRONG slalomers from all over the world are present at the race, the more powerful the results are.
This is, again, subjective. But one's subjective feeling of accomplishment supported by subjective feeling of respect of this accomplishment all over the world is worth more then the objective gold medal of the Burke's slalom championship in which I raced Slappy and no one else came because we announced it a couple of weeks in advance and thoughtfully scheduled it on the day of the Moro Bay race.
PS Today is a good day to kill...time and boost the ratings of..... this forum.
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Umm, I don't think I am putting words in his mouth.
There are little things that are lost in translation.
For instance:
We should HONOR the racers who are HONORABLE.
You can find so many different meanings in the same words, much like statistics. You can look at them from different angles and make different meanings.
I can make a forum where you can write your own words, I can write my own words there, but I can't make, nor do I want to make anyone do anything except stand behind your name. Sign in and say what you have to say. No anonymous bullshit.
We are coming from so many different backgrounds, here we should give each other the benefit of the doubt when we talk about things. If you feel that you need to challenge someone on their opinion, then do it, it's ok because you speak only for yourself, not the whole anonymous group.
These two words help when I read something I don't understand on a public forum. Is this a subjective or objective issue?
Words in a forum are an objective issue.
Formulating a response to them is subjective until it becomes objective when we put our response down in words.
Gees, I hope this is going to be a short war.
What do I mean by that???
Best to you all, I mean this.
There are little things that are lost in translation.
For instance:
I know Vladdy is sharp, I've talked with him on the phone and online for a good while, not that this makes a good judgement. But I know he is making an informed statement and that this is the way he "HONORS" these two fine slalom racers.Vlad: You could meet and race two fastest slalomers of all times- Luca and Gatti. Go on, check the record books.
We should HONOR the racers who are HONORABLE.
You can find so many different meanings in the same words, much like statistics. You can look at them from different angles and make different meanings.
I can make a forum where you can write your own words, I can write my own words there, but I can't make, nor do I want to make anyone do anything except stand behind your name. Sign in and say what you have to say. No anonymous bullshit.
We are coming from so many different backgrounds, here we should give each other the benefit of the doubt when we talk about things. If you feel that you need to challenge someone on their opinion, then do it, it's ok because you speak only for yourself, not the whole anonymous group.
These two words help when I read something I don't understand on a public forum. Is this a subjective or objective issue?
Words in a forum are an objective issue.
Formulating a response to them is subjective until it becomes objective when we put our response down in words.
Gees, I hope this is going to be a short war.
What do I mean by that???
Best to you all, I mean this.
On 2003-03-20 13:04, ARAB wrote:
Adam-yes I see what you and chris have said, there is a few good racers of years past from Europe, Are you guys putting words in Vlads mouth by makeing these statements?
Because he just mentioned "All Time"
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I’d like to explain why the External Validity of the 1990s European Race results is higher, but I don’t think I’ll be understood. However, I feel obligated to at least share my reasoning behind the statement that gives an erection to some people.
“Of all times” is an extrapolation based on comparative performance of certain athletes across time.
Those who have the record books handy:
PS. Gilmour and Dunn were not the only Americans racing in Europe. Captain Gilmour, however, was the only one, who after being beaten, practiced, came back, got beaten, came back, got better/faster, scored higher, practiced and then came back for more. Check his results in Paris in 1995 and you’ll be amazed with the progress of the Silver Bird.
“Of all times” is an extrapolation based on comparative performance of certain athletes across time.
Those who have the record books handy:
- How many nations participated in the competition in which your claimed slalomer scored high?
- Across what time period was he able to score high consistently on various types of courses in different countries set according to different standards.
- How many overall victories did he have?
- How many people participated in the competitions?
- How many world top-ten slalomers participated in the competitions?
PS. Gilmour and Dunn were not the only Americans racing in Europe. Captain Gilmour, however, was the only one, who after being beaten, practiced, came back, got beaten, came back, got better/faster, scored higher, practiced and then came back for more. Check his results in Paris in 1995 and you’ll be amazed with the progress of the Silver Bird.
"Fastest of all time" is a big position to hold.On 2003-03-19 11:37, Vlad Popov wrote:
The Swiss race is not to be missed as well. Gatti and Luca are registered. I’m so-oh there!
It’s June 21-22.
G-Burke Saturday?
Just in:
The Swiss are notorious for their “neutral” position/status. There are no excuses to ignore/boycott this race like Paris and/or Moscow! A trip there would cost the same as to MB. Only there is more for your money. <b>You could meet and race two fastest slalomers of all times- Luca and Gatti. Go on, check the record books.</b>
20 Franks to enter. 1000 Franks is the first place prize.
Here is a link.
http://www.pscontest.ch
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Did ALL of the top US skaters travel to many of the European races to compete? And vise versa for the European skaters, did they travel to many of the US races to compete?
From their placing as compared to Jani and JG, both of who are Very good, many of these skaters did much better consistently, and are definitely very good skaters.
The Europeans that have come here over the past two years are good, but were not the top placers.
We'll just have to hopefully get some USA skaters over there this year !

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ARAB I kind of agree with you on the Euro racing scene. I have heard all of the arguments about mystery Euros that are way faster than anyone in the states. It’s all just talk until I actually see some comparable results. I am not discounting what Jani and Luca have accomplished. And Jani surely showed he is a champion at the worlds. I would like to see Olson, Mollica, Cross, Dunn, Chicken, and the Badlanders go to the Swiss race and represent the US. I know that Dunn and Gilmour raced over there in the 90s and their results seemed to be middle of the pack. But that was over 10 years ago.
You guys can’t just let Gilmour go over there and take their money and women without at least giving him some competition.
You guys can’t just let Gilmour go over there and take their money and women without at least giving him some competition.
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Thank you, Mr. Trahan. Good things to you too, even though you live far away form the potential terrorist target #1, Dee See.
As a professional psychologist I recommend to all my slalom friends who can be infected or/and evaporated any time (that sort of thing I got from watching TV last week) to:
Vlad.
As a professional psychologist I recommend to all my slalom friends who can be infected or/and evaporated any time (that sort of thing I got from watching TV last week) to:
- Switch to a black- and-white television set so that you don’t know whether it’s an “orange” or “red” day. They will all be gray. And calm.
- Get rid of the TV speaker, so that you can only read 5 or 6 standard facial expression of the news anchors. This is the only fun way to “watch” the news.
- Not read newspapers and watch TV at all. Practice abstinence with respect to the Internet news sites as well.
- If all the money spent on travel to the US backdoor is invested in traveling to slalom competitions around the world, it will be money well invested as the memories/emotions/experiences that one pays for are going to be heterogeneous. Diversifying experiences, i.e., creating more stimuli, will ensure longer lasting memories and better recall performance, which, in turn, will help get through one’s mid-life crises when the physical and mental performance are deteriorated, and furthermore insure normality of aging.
- Spend all your time practicing slalom, thanking God/Allah that you’re alive depending on your preferences and believes, talking to your friends, loved ones, and participating in DC slalom discussions.
- Relax. If we get hit, we won’t even know it.
Vlad.
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Chris-I missed where Vlad talked of the fastest euro racers, I thought he said "All Time"?
Vlad-did you want to say Euro? Racing in Europe might give you that ooy gooy feeling of racing globally, but it wont give you the competition that you might find in your own back yard.
The validity of your results will be measured by racing the best racers in the world, not the best racers in Europe.
When you get back from Hot Heels, Where yes they have a great tradition of downhill racing but no experiance in slalom. You can come west and race the best, you will see that the bar has been raised. well above one that you can reach.
Vlad-did you want to say Euro? Racing in Europe might give you that ooy gooy feeling of racing globally, but it wont give you the competition that you might find in your own back yard.
The validity of your results will be measured by racing the best racers in the world, not the best racers in Europe.
When you get back from Hot Heels, Where yes they have a great tradition of downhill racing but no experiance in slalom. You can come west and race the best, you will see that the bar has been raised. well above one that you can reach.
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With all due respect Arab, I will back up what Chris is saying. The old Slalom! magazines document much of the European Racing History.
There is a lot of good things in those little half pages. Jani has been organizing the scanning of them and they can be found at this Slalom! link.
Anyway, best to all of you in these troubled times.
There is a lot of good things in those little half pages. Jani has been organizing the scanning of them and they can be found at this Slalom! link.
Anyway, best to all of you in these troubled times.
On 2003-03-20 05:35, Chris Eggers wrote:
Arab, there are more history books than those from the US. Vlad wanted to say "check the European record books" go figure, or come over to Switzerland and prove us wrong, you will be very welcome!
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Or course, Glenn! I'll come to B-Ridge or Moro. US Captain "Silver Bird" is coming to where the world is racing. Michael Dong's expressed an interest as well. Wallstreet racing is signed on.
There is a possiblility of organizing a slalom race in Central Park, New York city. Early Fall months. And to keep with the East Coast traditions and ethical guidelines, this race will not be scheduled on the same day with any major FCR-series race.
There is a possiblility of organizing a slalom race in Central Park, New York city. Early Fall months. And to keep with the East Coast traditions and ethical guidelines, this race will not be scheduled on the same day with any major FCR-series race.
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- Moscow-Washington
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More reasons to go: last minute deal to MB was in $450-$600 range last year. Last minute deals to major European cities are currently in $200-$300 range. The cheapest DC-Zurich-DC fare I found for the race dates is around $500.
The Swiss have a history of great organization. This particular event has already become a tradition. Check the link.
Entree fee in US dollars is only $14. First place prize is over $700.
Race on a local level or race on a global level. It only affects the validity of your results.
Vlad.
The Swiss have a history of great organization. This particular event has already become a tradition. Check the link.
Entree fee in US dollars is only $14. First place prize is over $700.
Race on a local level or race on a global level. It only affects the validity of your results.
Vlad.
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The Swiss race is not to be missed as well. Gatti and Luca are registered. I’m so-oh there!
It’s June 21-22.
G-Burke Saturday?
Just in:
The Swiss are notorious for their “neutral” position/status. There are no excuses to ignore/boycott this race like Paris and/or Moscow! A trip there would cost the same as to MB. Only there is more for your money. You could meet and race two fastest slalomers of all times- Luca and Gatti. Go on, check the record books.
20 Franks to enter. 1000 Franks is the first place prize.
Here is a link.
http://www.pscontest.ch
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It’s June 21-22.
G-Burke Saturday?
Just in:
The Swiss are notorious for their “neutral” position/status. There are no excuses to ignore/boycott this race like Paris and/or Moscow! A trip there would cost the same as to MB. Only there is more for your money. You could meet and race two fastest slalomers of all times- Luca and Gatti. Go on, check the record books.
20 Franks to enter. 1000 Franks is the first place prize.
Here is a link.
http://www.pscontest.ch
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For anyone who wants to increase his red blood cell count prior to racing at high altitudes. (Hem-UH-gluh-bin is produced in the splinter, if you're forn' enof
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Dangerous stuff: PFC (perfluorcarbon) and EPO. Used by pro athletes in high endurance exercises.
Legal substance (used to cure anemia). Generic name- epoetin alfa , brand name- Epogen and Procrit.
I know nothing of the effects of these drugs or where to get them at $100 for 10 pills semi-legally.
To increase red blood cell count I’d eat much liver, pray and knock on wood.
Vlad.

Dangerous stuff: PFC (perfluorcarbon) and EPO. Used by pro athletes in high endurance exercises.
Legal substance (used to cure anemia). Generic name- epoetin alfa , brand name- Epogen and Procrit.
I know nothing of the effects of these drugs or where to get them at $100 for 10 pills semi-legally.
To increase red blood cell count I’d eat much liver, pray and knock on wood.
Vlad.
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Brian, WesE skated Fountainhead. Surface OK but snow still on the grass so if a cone flies in the snow and down the bank you get very wet feet. Bull run was checked also. No salt or sand and the snow has melted! Probably a better chance to set duals!!!
Just give me some offsets, Cyber is killing me!
Just give me some offsets, Cyber is killing me!
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Hey Mike. Yes I have looked at that system and I think it may be good to use for our Outlaw races.
I will be posting up the Spring/Summer schedule very soon.
The Winter series should not be a total bust. We should race this Saturday, Surely we can find a dry hill with out snowmounds. I have been out of the loop on the condition of the P&R, Seneca and Fountianhead. Let me know which hill would be best for Saturday.
Lets Race!!!!
I will be posting up the Spring/Summer schedule very soon.
The Winter series should not be a total bust. We should race this Saturday, Surely we can find a dry hill with out snowmounds. I have been out of the loop on the condition of the P&R, Seneca and Fountianhead. Let me know which hill would be best for Saturday.
Lets Race!!!!
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Thanks again, precious TK. Please don't tell anyone I'm riding *** boards and *** trucks.
The entire DC slalom scene is gonna look like one big spec class pretty soon anyway, but I want to be able to keep something a secret.
So, last night at Vans the floor was so bad, it's not even worth mentioning a couple of pathetic times. Eric went to ride the park pretty soon, leaving his Turner Hybrid with PVDs behind. Eric is, like, 200 some pounds. But I stepped on the board anyway and took it for a spin. It took me two runs to get it to work. But, you see, Eric is, like, 200 some pounds! I was matching my plankkR times almost effortlessly, working the board up-and-down as well as side-to-side. I think PeeVees work exceptionally well with flexy boards. The amount of traction is unbelievable. Perfectly controllable and predictable slides.
I gotta test a weight-matching set-up. But so far, I'm impressed.
Vlad.
The entire DC slalom scene is gonna look like one big spec class pretty soon anyway, but I want to be able to keep something a secret.
So, last night at Vans the floor was so bad, it's not even worth mentioning a couple of pathetic times. Eric went to ride the park pretty soon, leaving his Turner Hybrid with PVDs behind. Eric is, like, 200 some pounds. But I stepped on the board anyway and took it for a spin. It took me two runs to get it to work. But, you see, Eric is, like, 200 some pounds! I was matching my plankkR times almost effortlessly, working the board up-and-down as well as side-to-side. I think PeeVees work exceptionally well with flexy boards. The amount of traction is unbelievable. Perfectly controllable and predictable slides.
I gotta test a weight-matching set-up. But so far, I'm impressed.
Vlad.
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Vlad---GREAT IDEA!! I know that I am not a D.C. guy (despite my one-time fling with the crew), but hey...the East is a small place. I can get to NYC $40 Round trip on a bus. Therefore, there would be few excuses for anyone in the Boston/ RI area to come down and join you all.
I think your suggestion is great, man. Bringing the North East coast together!!!
I think your suggestion is great, man. Bringing the North East coast together!!!
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Here's an idea. Because it's Friday!
Let's have one of the DC Outlaw Summer Series races in Central Park, New York (or similar location).
It is The Central Park (!), it is New York City (!), it's close to Noah, Chris, Ilva, Tway, TK, Gilmour, Ron and several significant others, and most importantly, it's DIFFERENT. It'd be very very cool! Or so I think.
If we car pool there, it'd be, like, 4 or 5 cars. Just for a day, and then have a session with Gilmour and TK at the marked Farm's race courses the following day.
To make the venue appear more or less legit, we can get together with the local blader slalomers, even share out courses with them and see who's faster. No sponsors, no banners, only regular racing at an irregular location.
We're talking about racing in one of the Fashion Centers of the World here and a skate session with those who don't usually come to us because it's too far away for them. It's only 4 hours away!
Thoughts?
Vlad.
Let's have one of the DC Outlaw Summer Series races in Central Park, New York (or similar location).
It is The Central Park (!), it is New York City (!), it's close to Noah, Chris, Ilva, Tway, TK, Gilmour, Ron and several significant others, and most importantly, it's DIFFERENT. It'd be very very cool! Or so I think.
If we car pool there, it'd be, like, 4 or 5 cars. Just for a day, and then have a session with Gilmour and TK at the marked Farm's race courses the following day.
To make the venue appear more or less legit, we can get together with the local blader slalomers, even share out courses with them and see who's faster. No sponsors, no banners, only regular racing at an irregular location.
We're talking about racing in one of the Fashion Centers of the World here and a skate session with those who don't usually come to us because it's too far away for them. It's only 4 hours away!
Thoughts?
Vlad.
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Happy Holidays to all my bros from the East Coast. I am looking forward to the new year and a new year of racing. I have spoke to Santa about a few things I need so ya'll better start getting faster cause if I can already beat you, you can forget trying to catch me. If I have you in my sights since you have consistantly beat me, I am coming after you. 41 years old or not, the new year will be more competitive and intense than the last.
Skate fast or go longboarding!
Mele Kalekemaka!
ohm
Skate fast or go longboarding!
Mele Kalekemaka!
ohm
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My real first name is Slappimus.On 2002-12-19 14:40, Wesley Tucker wrote:
I've noticed that WesE can't post on this website without Vlad insisting he provide his real name to the Webmaster.
Yet for some unknown reason, Komrade Popov just assumes Mrs. Maxwell named her bundle of joy "Slappy."
Americans. Ain't we a hoot?
Let's keep the DC forums as skate and event pure as possible. If you wanna debate names I would suggest ncdsa.com as a more appropriate forum.
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Tight Slalom around the world should not be called “tight” if a 36-inch board can (even) make the course, not to mention make it to the podium.
If a slalom course is set in such a way that it requires hitting cones to better times, such course should be reset.
If racers keep creating more racing classes with an excuse to accommodate everybody and attract more racers, each racer will end up racing in his own class by himself without attracting any new people into slalom, and, therefore, such practice should be abandoned.
If Dieter Fleischer calls his hobby longboarding or longwheeling, he knows better.
If one cone is hit in any slalom competition, it should be automatic disqualification.
Each competitor should only be allowed to take one run in any slalom competition.
Goofy stance should be outlawed.
No matter how absurd parts of it sound, I hope some of my ideas find more support then the absurd idea of counting only clean runs on 100-cone courses.
Vlad.
If a slalom course is set in such a way that it requires hitting cones to better times, such course should be reset.
If racers keep creating more racing classes with an excuse to accommodate everybody and attract more racers, each racer will end up racing in his own class by himself without attracting any new people into slalom, and, therefore, such practice should be abandoned.
If Dieter Fleischer calls his hobby longboarding or longwheeling, he knows better.
If one cone is hit in any slalom competition, it should be automatic disqualification.
Each competitor should only be allowed to take one run in any slalom competition.
Goofy stance should be outlawed.
No matter how absurd parts of it sound, I hope some of my ideas find more support then the absurd idea of counting only clean runs on 100-cone courses.
Vlad.