DC Winter Outlaw Series

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:55 am

The main part is dry, but very salty. There's a bit of melting at the bottom where the runout area is.

I could be up for a Vans session if the race is postponed.

Q

Anthony Smallwood · Post by **Anthony Smallwood** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:38 pm

I imagine Fountainhead is in a similar condition. If that's the case and the race is postponed, let's have a big Van's session.
Or go to Whitetail.
I need to ride....

Slappy Maxwell · Post by **Slappy Maxwell** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:29 pm

That's what I was thinking after trying to skate there last year after the snow. The problem won't be just sweeping salt and sand. It will be with snow melting from the piles.

The forecast doesn't look warm enough for it to start melting until Saturday.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:35 pm

I passed P&R a couple of times on my way to Whitetail this week. It looks rather snowy.

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:41 am

I'll check it tomorrow.

Q

Danny Crawford · Post by **Danny Crawford** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:43 am

If we all bring some brooms we could take care of the salt problem for the most part.

Andy Bittner · Post by **Andy Bittner** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 2:04 am

I'll check and let you know. I don't have high hopes. Based on the condition of my parking lot and the grocery parking lot I visited today, there's still probably a lot of sand, salt, ice and probably even some snow.

Anthony Smallwood · Post by **Anthony Smallwood** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:47 am

No question, the park and ride is the place to be for DC slalom. Fountainhead has the nice downhill bonus in the back, but if slaloming is the aim, P&R is the spot.
It seems like a serene, made-for-slalom locale that's surrounded by the chaos of cars flying in all directions.
The big draw of course is dual racing but having our cars right there is a big plus also.
How's it looking?? Andy or Q, how about a check?

Andy Bittner · Post by **Andy Bittner** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:32 pm

Danny, You'll see what is special about the Gaithersburg Park and Race when you get there. Frankly, there's no one thing big or amazing about it. There are just so many things about it that are good that they all add up to a really great slalom venue. It is conveniently located for most, with ample convenient, drive-up and skate parking. It is a curiously isolated satellite commuter parking lot, literally sitting on what used to be one leaf of a major highway cloverleaf interchange and bounded by a large railroad embankment and track, and is not serviced by buses, leaving it mostly empty, at night and on weekends. The pavement is very good and the hill we use is long enough (about 600' useable hill), wide and straight (ample room for good dual hybrid-special-style courses with plenty of movement and offset) with a very manageable grade to it. Tucking in and bombing the racing hill at P&R would only be considered a challenge by the most novice of skaters, but pushing hard, pumping hard or otherwise charging a slalom course, it's easy to get going fast enough to hurt oneself. There are a number of other areas in the lot, of varying lengths and grades, for those who don't wish to race or ride on the race hill, i.e. kid skating, practice space, alternative course style, etc. It's just a good spot (that happens to be about one mile from my home), and I will forever applaud Mitch Temoche for recognizing its' potential. It was a great find.

Danny Crawford · Post by **Danny Crawford** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:52 am

I wanna check out the p&r. I thought fountain head was a great spot. And if the p&r is better I can't wait. What kind of slalom would we be running there though? And how fast is this place?

Wes Eastridge · Post by **Wes Eastridge** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:30 am

Anthony, It's really too early to decide. A short range weather forecast is pretty much necessary for races in the winter around here. I can say that the optimal spot for racing would be the Gaithersburg P&R, due to its size. Fountainhead is really a practice spot, and backup spot for when the other sites have bad conditions.

Anthony Flis · Post by **Anthony Flis** » Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:14 am

what about the outlaw race on the 7th?

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:32 pm

Jeff, (and everyone)

One thing to keep in mind is don't forget it's a NIGHT RACE. That means plenty of time on Saturday to drive to Jackson.

My itinerary from South Carolina is simple: drive to Atlanta Friday (four hours), sleep in Saturday morning and drive over to Jackson Saturday morning-afternoon (five hours.) I'll probably get to Jackson with more than enough time to take a nap or if I splurge for a motel with an indoor pool take a swim.

I know it's farther for y'all in DC, but think about driving some of the way Friday night and the balance on Saturday. No need to push or kill yourself and getting up the highway.There's plenty of time before practice starts late Saturday night.

As far as motels are concerned, just remember that there's no need to book a Marriott or Holiday Inn. Econo Lodge and Motel 6 do fine. All you need is a bed and a shower. Keep it cheap and you'll find a room in the South for under $35.00. I do it all the time.

Jeff Boswell · Post by **Jeff Boswell** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:49 pm

Has anyone tried driving down to Jackson from up here, it looks like it's about 900 miles or so. I take it there's no camping close by? My skill level doesn't warrant spending a lot of money on airfare and hotel rooms. I might be able to drive our minivan and take some outlaws along. If we share driving duties maybe we can drive straight through?

Ricky Byrd · Post by **Ricky Byrd** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:49 pm

Make sure you can cancel those hotels reservations without penalty. I'm still working on a budget for Red Bull. They may be picking up the hotel tab.

On that subject...

What do you guys see as being the best way to manage the "free room" deal. First come forst serve? I hate telling anyone that the "free rooms are all taken, you have to pay for yours". That would suck. How do I know who is truely "first" in that situation? This is the toughest problem I've got right now.

I've got 10 rooms set aside at Cabot Lodge Millsaps, which is .5 miles from the course. Really close but a little high at 69 per night.

Brian Parsons · Post by **Brian Parsons** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:36 pm

Delta out of Dulles. Actually it was $238. On Orbitz.

Also found a hotel (Ramada) near the airport for about $50 a night. I have not booked that yet. But it looks like the best deal I could find.

Mike Ohm · Post by **Mike Ohm** » Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:00 am

Parsons, what airline?

Brian Parsons · Post by **Brian Parsons** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:11 pm

Yea, I found tickets for $230. I booked early this year as to not miss out like last year.

Can't wait.

Ricky Byrd · Post by **Ricky Byrd** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:04 pm

Brian,
Thanks for signing up for the LSJ 2004. I'll work hard to make it the best it can be.

"I FEEL LIKE JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI!"
Kid Rock

Anthony Flis · Post by **Anthony Flis** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:01 am

well the next race is in about a week and a half so i was wondering where the next race will be or if you havent decided yet. I'm geussing the times never change, so its just a matter of where...if you ask me ill go with fountain head since i really just want to ride the back hill a lot since im getting a board set up for downhill that day and plus everything will probably still be covered in sand and salt and maybe the occasional snow bank left over from the plow

John Dillon · Post by **John Dillon** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:38 am

The race was cold on sat...in the 30s but it was 17 when I left my house...since I worked out in the cold all week,I was prepared, and yea, I was overdressed but I was warm...because, as WesE said, the wind was non-existent due to the forest surrounding us, it felt a lot warmer than if you were exposed to the wind....but if you stood still or were not wearing gloves you did notice the cold....in my caveman insulated coveralls I would've been comfy in -10degree weather! True, it was great to see all the new faces....and, yea, we missed a few who we expected would show. Fountainhead is truly a great find...just wish the hikers and mountainbikers wouldn't proceed right thru the middle of the course while the race is on.....I thought I had brought too much stuff,then I saw the 2 kayakers hiking with their kayaks....the hike to the water is quite a distance....that was pretty hardcore. Boswell kept warm w/the roadkill soup in a thermos. I hope to catch y'all next time! Peace!!

Danny Crawford · Post by **Danny Crawford** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:43 pm

The trucks I have on my slalom board is an Independent and a high quality Toys R' Us truck. I got the wedged risers set to turny in the front and stable in the back. I think if I get some new trucks and bearings I'll be able to shave a couple seconds off my run.

Anthony Flis · Post by **Anthony Flis** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:05 pm

Anthony, do you think you could send me some pics of us bombing from saturday off of your digital? or if anyone happened to get pics send them to me so I can post them on my site

Anthony Smallwood · Post by **Anthony Smallwood** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:19 pm

Just wanted to thank Brian Parsons for his efforts this past Saturday. Glad to see folks arriving from afar on a cold winter day, just to skate. A highlight for me of course, was bombing the back hill. Laying out in the turn while leaning on my slider glove at speed was a rush indeed. The big highlight though, was watching Kyle, Danny and Anthony charging. I've been trying to recruit speedboarders for 4 years now, to no avail. Look's like I found them. Maybe it's time to start a DC downhill outlaw series....

Bozi, I got those 101's.....those things are scary!

See ya'll next time

Jeff Bozi · Post by **Jeff Bozi** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:37 pm

Danny, no worries on the non matching trucks, the important thing is what the trucks are doing. Next race, look at everybodies decks when theres a big turnout, youll see alot of different setups, most will have a different rear & frt truck. The most popular easiest to setup, is the Tracker 106mm RTS & RTX, or sesimic 105mm metals, in 45 & 30 degree trucks.
On your slalom deck you want the front truck to turn fast, & the rear truck to be way less aggressive so the rear doesnt what to slide out as soon as you have some speed & are turning hard.
( If the back wheels on your car turned, at 5 mph, itd be helpful to park, but if they turned on the highway at 60mph, you would skid out & flip the first time you tryed to turn even a little rite?)
Slalom decks, same thing, frt need to turn, rear needs to stay planted.

Most decks will run a wedge under frt truck to increase turning, & a backwards wedge in rear to dewedge & slow down the rear truck.

On regular style trucks, the critical thing is the Bushings, hard bushing that dont let the truck turn to it potential, make everything else pointless.

Bones Hardcores,Stimulators,Doe Doe's, all are a decent start, sometime will need to ad a longer kingpin to help fit a bigger softer bushing.

I didnt see what you where riding, I got there late. If you need any help in used decks, trucks, wheels to get a rig together or tweeek up yours, theres plenty of used stuff for slalom here locally even

It was way cool seeing so many young faces at the Race.

The Kids are alright

Bozi

Danny Crawford · Post by **Danny Crawford** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:57 am

If there's one thing I learned about yesterday it would be that if I am to be competitive in the least bit at the slalom I'll have to invest in a better board. My deck is fine but the trucks don't even match. If I got some better bearings I think I'll do better. But yeah, yesterday was a blast and I'm definitely coming to the next one.

Seth Levy · Post by **Seth Levy** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:48 pm

thanks wes, we had a great time. it was my bros first slalom event and i think it went too long for him. next time ill be sure to bring the ps2 so he can play in the car when he gets bored!

Anthony Flis · Post by **Anthony Flis** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:47 pm

yesterday was probably the most fun i'll have until the next race...and me and danny realized that we are destined to be speedboarders as well.....that back hill is just soo gnarly. Just think its only 19 more days until the next race.....

Wes Eastridge · Post by **Wes Eastridge** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:18 pm

T’was a great time of outlaw slalom yesterday. The temps were not a problem at all! In fact, when the conditions are right, I think I prefer skating in 35°F over skating in 80°F! If Fountainhead were wide enough for duals, the place would surely be Slalom Central. I hope AnthonyF, Danny, Brittany, Seth & his brother each had a good time. It appeared that everyone was having a good time, with the exception of Brian’s dad, who looked as if he wanted to join in on the fun but was not quite ready to cut loose the way we do. At the end, I was the only one left at the site. I made one last trip up the hill to make sure all was well and it started to sleet.

Thanks to Brian Parsons - race organizer - family man - cooldude.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:42 pm

Sorry Noah and I missed you guys. We must have flipped a coin 30 times on Friday afternoon and finally gave in to the temps. I hope all you guys had a good time, we WILL see you on the 7th....or whenever the next race is.

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:01 pm

Got home last night around 11:00. First thing I did this morning was tally up the damage. Just in case anyone is interested (and I know you are,) I did this whole weekend for $130.00. That includes the room Friday night, driving 900 miles and some eats now and then. I even think that cost is a little skewed as gasoline spiked in the past couple of weeks to $1.55 a gallon. If it goes back to the $1.30 range it was before new year's, then I could probably do an Outlaw race for under $125.

Not bad for a weekend of skating on a really good hill with a decent crowd of people. I've made quite a show of myself the past couple of years telling everyone I don't travel north of Richmond between Thanksgiving and Easter. I must admit, though, that Saturday was really good skating weather. Some people were a little over dressed, (not mentioning any names, JD,) but for the most part some long pants and something over the ears would be enough to handle 35-degree weather with no problems. Actually, the only fashion accessory that brought any comment was Slappy's iPod wire flopping around while he was trying to slalom. We could tell at the top of the hill it was a distraction and on his next run the Maximus was careful to tuck it inside his jacket. I made mention of the fact that Saturday in 35-degree weather and still air was a lot more comfortable and tolerable than the 48-degree weather 66 and I skated in a couple of weeks earlier. A stiff breeze makes all the difference when it comes to staying outside for any length of time.

Thank goodness for the National Weather Service. Between weather updates on my computer, the Weather Channel in my motel room and listening to the radio in my car, I had an accurate and up-to-date picture of the weather in Occoquan right up until I left Saturday at 3:00. I guess from what WesE is saying I missed the icy stuff by about five minutes.

That's just the way I like it!

Dave Gale · Post by **Dave Gale** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:20 pm

You boyz/galz have a good one!! Jeff use the john prior to running.. May work out like the greyhounds!

Jeff Bozi · Post by **Jeff Bozi** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:05 pm

Is ellybody up & going? I have stuff to bring for alot of you, hoping one particular shipment is sitting over at old house, cause it didnt show here. I need to go there, then come back for kids before I head out. May be late, but we'll be there.
I have a lil stomach issue, not sure how long we'll stay, slappy, they gotta porta pot anywhere near? (seriously)

See you guys, Jefff

Seth Levy · Post by **Seth Levy** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:44 am

yah, but it gets dark f'in early

Jeff Boswell · Post by **Jeff Boswell** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:19 am

Maybe the start time should be pushed back a bit, seeing so it's going to be a very cold night. BRRRRR.

Wes Eastridge · Post by **Wes Eastridge** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:59 am

It's official - the race will be at Fountainhead. Probably 10am for Longboard practice and then around Noon for the traditional slalom. BrianP, can we get an afirmative on that start time?

Anthony Flis · Post by **Anthony Flis** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:08 pm

so whats the verdict gonna be on this one? I personally dont care just as long as there is a race since i have never been to either places i dont know which one would be better....

Slappy Maxwell · Post by **Slappy Maxwell** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:43 pm

Fountainhead: no snow, salt, or sand.

Seth Levy · Post by **Seth Levy** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:23 pm

id be willing to help sweep if anyone wants to help!
jd, ill email you when a final decision is made

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:48 pm

No Problemo...
I literally drive right by it on my way to work. A quick peek before getting on 270 only takes a minute or two.

Q

Wes Eastridge · Post by **Wes Eastridge** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:33 pm

Fountainhead is probably good. Total lack of accumulation there would be a good guess.

Jack, Thanks for checking the P&R.

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:14 pm

Well guys...

Good News:
The GBurg Park & Race is bone dry.

Bad News:
There is more salt on the asphalt there than I had snow.

Unless somebody's got one of those rolling sweepers, a gas-powered blower, or a Zamboni, or we all show up with push brooms an hour early, there will be no racing at the P&R.

Boswell, Slappy, how's Fountainhead?

Q

Wes Eastridge · Post by **Wes Eastridge** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:04 pm

No accumulation where I live, and the sun is out. The Race could very well still be on.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:29 pm

Joe I was going to drive down to NJ and meet Noah and go down with him. he mentioned you might be coming too. usually we meet at the middletown train station like 8am...lets talk with Noah to figure out.

Is the race even still on?

John Dillon · Post by **John Dillon** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:19 pm

Ride: No prob Seth...we can strap him to the roof of the car Or he can hold the EdEconomy...haven't heard from GBJ yet...if I could fit Leo in on the way home from ST Louis with all the stuff myself, WesE and Leo had w/us....I mean all the wheels,decks,tools,Coolmax T-shirts,and griptape that WesE had brought, then we can fit your bro in as well. maybe I'll leave my snobo at your house and swap you & your bro for my snobo so I can hit up the slopes after the race?
Yo UR13/Noah: The snow was a non event for the DC area, a dusting only in the Baltimore area but the road crews salted everything big time...probably to make up for the desalination that all last yr's rain did for the Chesapeake Bay...blue crabs dig the saltier water! I hear there's a chance for some more white stuff on monday! It'll be good to c you guys...AND JOE, if he comes.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:40 pm

I hope you guys in DC made out better than us here in NYC. Our "dusting to one inch" predicted turned into "5-9 inches", it's nasty up here. I hope to god the race is still on because i gotta get the hell out of this snow for at least an afternoon.

Noah....lets go go go!

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:18 pm

About 1/4" of dusting at casa Q, ~3 mi from P&R. I'll check it on my way in to work.

Q

Seth Levy · Post by **Seth Levy** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:55 pm

ill call you tonite! is there any chance my brother could fit in as well? i really hope they didnt jump the gun with the p & r. this just isnt a good weekend for fountainhead for me. plus i wanna try out queue's new ride! lol. actually, i may be able to drive myself if you cant take me and my brother. he wont be happy that his new deck isnt ready (i just found out) but im sure there will be plenty to ride out there

John Dillon · Post by **John Dillon** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:45 pm

Hey Seth & GBJ, I could swing by your way and pick u up for the sat race at Fountainhead if it's still on...just a dusting at my house this morn and nothing in PG COUNTY where I work...but all the roads were heavily salted everywhere...I guess everyone panicked since last week's dusting caused CHAOS here in MD when nody salted....what does our scout,Q, say about the P&R...prob salted bigtime ? Hey WesE, got some extra layers of Warmax for me?Oh yea, I could fit another person but I want to bring the true longboard-Gravity EdEconomy 57incher bankrider! Call me tonight on my cell 443-610-8488 if u 2 guys still need a ride....it was so snowy(not) this morn I walked out the house w/o my cell.

Seth Levy · Post by **Seth Levy** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:19 am

will we be certain on the location by tonite? i need to know so i can plan my day.

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