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Post by Wesley Tucker » Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:31 am

Have I run 100-cone courses this year? No.
Have I run 100-cone courses? Absolutely.

Y'all remember my pics of my Exit 46 hill? Between 1984-1987, I rode that hill at least once a month. I set courses of various steepness of between 80 to 120 cones. Spacing varied anywhere between 6 to 12 feet. I even ran 'em clean more than occasionally. At the time I didn't even know there was a 100-cone discipline. Hell, at the time I didn't even know there was anyone outside of South Carolina still running their skateboard around cones in the road.

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Can I run 100 cones? Yes. Does Vlad have to see me do it to feel validated? Not hardly. Can I still run 100 cones? Yes. Can I do it faster than anyone else? Not now . . . probably later. Can I go onto a skateboard forum and advocate a more standard and easily adaptable means of holding 100-cone challenges worldwide? Without any hesitation.

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Post by Vlad Popov » Fri Dec 20, 2002 4:03 am

Spec class doesn’t change any rules. The course stays the same, and the penalty for a hit cone stays the same. There is no relationship with the recent attempts to change the original 100-cone course rules.

The ideas behind the Spec class are: to equalize the field and to attract new people to slalom racing with an inexpensive set-up.

The idea behind changing the 100-cone rules is to rewrite the history by declaring and eventually recognizing (exclusively) a new winner. The fastest racer in the world has little or no chance of making the course clean during the official 2 attempts.

Anyone can fool around and post his unofficial clean times on the net. It's the official times that count.

Trying to change the existing rules in one slalom discipline while leaving rules in the other slalom disciplines untouched is a double standard.

Another issue with this debate is that most people who argue in favor of clean runs have never run a 100-cone course. It appears that most of them argue for the sake of the argument. If I see them run a 100-cone course, I would at least respect their opinion.

Vlad.
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Here's a neat little conundrum that relates to another issue that also got a lot of airplay with the DC Crew. Remember when Vlad suggested a 100-cone challenge? Sure you do. It wasn't that long ago. Well, my contribution to the event was the suggestion that only a 100-cone clean run should count. (It's all coming back to you now, right?) Well, that was slapped down immediately by the more aggressive racers in the group. A cone penalty was preferable to any demand that a racer SLOW DOWN in order to make the course. 'nuff said about that.

Now here is the definition of a spec class race: get on a board that's just like everyone elses, little wedge, 78A wheels, ride through a course and record your times. So who here is going to SLOW DOWN enough to make the adjustment to a piece of equipment that may not be cheap, but certainly isn't on the same par as a Roe or a Turner? Or are racers going to charge the hill with the same abandon on the spec board as they would on their usual, high-tech powerful racing board?

This isn't a condemnation of spec clas racing. Far from it. I think it sounds like a blast. My question, though, is why are racers willing to adjust to a spec class board but completely unwilling to adjust to a unique type of 100-cone course? Is anyone going to pump as hard, turn as hard and push as hard on a Black Hill board as they would on a Bottle Rocket set up with TTCs, RTXs and Cambrias? And if the adjustment is made to ride the Black Hill, why is it then impossible to consider an adjustment to ride a course under certain conditions? (i.e., 100 cones clean?)

It just sounds like a double standard. Adjustments are expected to ride in a spec class, but it's completely out of the question and unmentionable to suggest an adjustment in a 100 cone course.

(It's raining, my shoulder hurts and I have nothing better to do . . . that's why!)

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Post by Vlad Popov » Thu Dec 19, 2002 11:15 pm

Slappy, I’ll build a 42-inch deck with an axle length specified by Dave-da-LBK, and will do some comparisons.
What’s the next thing you guys are going to notice - that my boards are high performance slalom boards and your boards are low performance longboard cruisers?
I can tell you that apriori.
Awaiting the tests.

Wes,
don’t tell anyone. :wink:

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:27 pm

I shouldn't have said that.
I've seen Olga Korbut lately on the news.
Vlad is aging A LOT better than she is!

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:24 pm

I never assumed your real name is "Vlad." I always knew from the first time I saw you you're really Olga Korbut trying your hand at a new sport! :razz:

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Post by Vlad Popov » Thu Dec 19, 2002 9:20 pm

WesT,
Slappy Maxwell was known to me as Slappy Maxwell from day one. On line and off. I don’t know his other name. Nor do I care.

How do you know Vlad Popov is my real name? Before you make a mistake by assuming that it is, I can tell you that it isn’t. My birth name and my passport name are both different. And so is the name of the most influential “slalomskateboarder” on this site, by the way.

If Slappy would post by SlappyM here and ignore Trahan’s e-mail requests to put his last name in, I’d be doing the same thing to my “favorite” Slappy.

WesE was offered to put his “modified” last name in if he wants/needs to fly under the radar on the net. I like Wes as much as the rest of the guys I skate with. Nothing personal.

Vlad.

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:40 pm

I've noticed that WesE can't post on this website without Vlad insisting he provide his real name to the Webmaster.

Yet for some unknown reason, Komrade Popov just assumes Mrs. Maxwell named her bundle of joy "Slappy."

Americans. Ain't we a hoot?

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Post by Slappy Maxwell » Thu Dec 19, 2002 8:21 pm

I agree with LBK. 36" isn't a true longboard. It really should be at least 40". If people show up with smaller boards there are always a ton of boards around they can borrow.

Dlav's 'Cali TS' isn't a longboard it's more of a GS slalom.

Sorry I can't make Vans tonight.
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Post by Vlad Popov » Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:40 pm

Dave, they don’t call you LBK for nothing!

I feel that it is not the boards that are short, but the courses that are “long”. A 36-inch board shouldn’t be good for TS. A 36-inch board is a long board and <i>can</i> be a longboard too!

No matter how much I love arguing with you, I’ll just ask Dalv to build a 42-inch longboard with whatever wheelbase you say, and we’ll test it head to head with my 30-inch spec longboard. What’s LBK spec axle-to-axle distance? 36?

Vlad.
All is cool though and I will drop the longboard issue on this thread (DC Outlaw Serries thread).

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Post by Vlad Popov » Thu Dec 19, 2002 6:38 pm

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