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There has been alot of press about Rossi's link with Ferrari in a "special tester" role next season and a race drive as early as 2008. Rossi came out today downplaying it saying it would be nice if Ferrari included him in this plan. However he ended the interview with the following quote.
"By nature I can't think of what will happen in two years' time and start to get ready now. But it's clear that I have to do something, to find new challenges.
"I wouldn't be able to stay five more years at Yamaha and win other championships like this. I'd need to change manufacturer, or class, or maybe start all over again, from Sport Production, to try to redo the same path."
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Vlad, I thought you would appreciate this as much as I.
I love that little Italian!
"By nature I can't think of what will happen in two years' time and start to get ready now. But it's clear that I have to do something, to find new challenges.
"I wouldn't be able to stay five more years at Yamaha and win other championships like this. I'd need to change manufacturer, or class, or maybe start all over again, from Sport Production, to try to redo the same path."
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Vlad, I thought you would appreciate this as much as I.
I love that little Italian!
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I can't see Alonso at Ferrari. Kimi yes, Alonso no. The difference is that Ferrari have been talking about Kimi in the press, prasing him, etc. The first time anyone has heard about an Alonso - Ferrari link was this weekene from Alonso manager...
A Kimi/Rossi combo would scare ALOT of people on the grid.
A Kimi/Rossi combo would scare ALOT of people on the grid.
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Rossi Completes Two-Day Test with Ferrari
Wednesday, 03 August 2005 17:37
MotoGP champion Valentino Rossi completed on Wednesday a two-day test with the Ferrari team at their Fiorano circuit.
The Italian driver, who has just renewed his contract with Yamaha until the end of the 2006 season, was again at the wheel of the F2004 car.
Rossi worked alongside Ferrari's engineers as well as Spanish test driver Marc Gene.
"I wanted to get a better understanding of a Formula One car and I would like to thank Ferrari for giving me the opportunity to do so," said Rossi. "The two days were intensive and interesting.
"I completed a lot of kilometres and I began to understand the handling of the car, working with the engineers and Marc Gene. I go back to the two wheels where there is still a long way to go to the end of the season."
(source: autosport.com)
This after Ferrari dropped Rubens in favor of the younger Massa...
hmmm?
Wednesday, 03 August 2005 17:37
MotoGP champion Valentino Rossi completed on Wednesday a two-day test with the Ferrari team at their Fiorano circuit.
The Italian driver, who has just renewed his contract with Yamaha until the end of the 2006 season, was again at the wheel of the F2004 car.
Rossi worked alongside Ferrari's engineers as well as Spanish test driver Marc Gene.
"I wanted to get a better understanding of a Formula One car and I would like to thank Ferrari for giving me the opportunity to do so," said Rossi. "The two days were intensive and interesting.
"I completed a lot of kilometres and I began to understand the handling of the car, working with the engineers and Marc Gene. I go back to the two wheels where there is still a long way to go to the end of the season."
(source: autosport.com)
This after Ferrari dropped Rubens in favor of the younger Massa...
hmmm?
Since Mercedes entered F1 with McLaren they have had issues. A compnay called Ilmor actually manufacturers the Mercedes engines. Mercedes engineers Q/A, test and design the engines. It has always been an issue with Ilmor and reliability. I watched an older race from 1995 a few weeks ago. Both McLaren/Mercedes engines blew up in that one. Nothing new 10 years later.Vlad Popov wrote:They always had problems (no?) and good drivers who couldn't win because of these problems.Kimi should have won 8 of the past 9 races.
Trulli? Jeff Cordon is MY guy.
The only way Mercedes will make a good engine is if F1 moves to Diesels. Otherwise we will see 3 out of every 5 Merc engines become expensive paperweights.
There is a reason Mercedes has no customer teams...and it isn't from lack of Mercedes trying to find one.
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Great race. What do I say? Kimi should have won 8 or the past 9 races. Thanks to Mercedes he has won 2 and retired from the rest. Still a great race. Schumi's tires gave up on him, otherwise it would have been alot closer.Vlad Popov wrote:Kimi over Shumi. What say you now?Mercedes can't build a decent engine to save their life!
Even my guy Trulli did well in 4th (after his diffuser was destroyed on the first corner)
Rossi over Gibeneau (sp?). Gibeneau lead 24 of the 25 laps after the restart with Rossi behind him or Hayden for all of it. For the final 5 laps Rossi kept putting a front wheel inside of Gibeneau. Finally on the first corner on the last lap Sete cracked and ran wide letting Rossi take an easy win....
I love Rossi.
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Very good. Rossi had never been to Laguna Seca before. Nicky Hayden and Colin Edwards both have thousands of laps and a few wins at the circuit. Laguna Seca is like no other circuit MotoGP races on, so all the Europeans had issues. I expect Rossi to dominate next season.Vlad Popov wrote:3d in the US. Good or bad?
Plus the extra grunt of the Honda killed the Yamaha up the many hills on the circuit.
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Re: Chris,
Wait, he isn't really a doctor?Vlad Popov wrote:Respect?
He calls himself a (the) doctor without earning a PhD - what a crook!
My favorite part or GP races is the after-race interviews. Rossi's so cute - his English, his manners, his way of telling the story of what <i>really</i> was happening on the track...
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Chris,
Respect?
He calls himself a (the) doctor without earning a PhD - what a crook!
My favorite part or GP races is the after-race interviews. Rossi's so cute - his English, his manners, his way of telling the story of what <i>really</i> was happening on the track...
He calls himself a (the) doctor without earning a PhD - what a crook!
My favorite part or GP races is the after-race interviews. Rossi's so cute - his English, his manners, his way of telling the story of what <i>really</i> was happening on the track...
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Nothing is ever really over but I thought you might get a kick ot of this Vlad. One could make another metaphor from this to the world of slalom, but I'll leave that to you all.
F1 Not Appealing for Rossi
By Michele Lostia Thursday, 23 June 2005 11:25
MotoGP world champion Valentino Rossi has ruled out switching to Formula One in the future after claiming the sport is not appealing enough for him.
The Italian, linked with a move to Formula One since he tested a Ferrari at Fiorano, said he will "stick to motorbikes forever", claiming the driver does not make a significant difference.
"As far as I'm concerned, I hadn't seen a race on TV for a long time, but I did for the race in Canada, and I realize that the driver's task is to take the car to the finish," Rossi told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"I don't think there is enough satisfaction there for me.
"I won't take F1 in consideration for my future. There is the pleasure of winning and developing a bike here. When I'm tired I will dedicate myself to a quieter life, with less pressures."
Six-time motorcycle champion Rossi was also linked with a switch to the World Rally Championship after Fiat Motorsport boss Matilde Tomagnini said he would like the rider to join the Italian company in its WRC campaign.
Rossi, however, ruled that out too.
"To go from the highest technology on two wheels to a Punto seems a bit too much," he said.
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F1 Not Appealing for Rossi
By Michele Lostia Thursday, 23 June 2005 11:25
MotoGP world champion Valentino Rossi has ruled out switching to Formula One in the future after claiming the sport is not appealing enough for him.
The Italian, linked with a move to Formula One since he tested a Ferrari at Fiorano, said he will "stick to motorbikes forever", claiming the driver does not make a significant difference.
"As far as I'm concerned, I hadn't seen a race on TV for a long time, but I did for the race in Canada, and I realize that the driver's task is to take the car to the finish," Rossi told Gazzetta dello Sport.
"I don't think there is enough satisfaction there for me.
"I won't take F1 in consideration for my future. There is the pleasure of winning and developing a bike here. When I'm tired I will dedicate myself to a quieter life, with less pressures."
Six-time motorcycle champion Rossi was also linked with a switch to the World Rally Championship after Fiat Motorsport boss Matilde Tomagnini said he would like the rider to join the Italian company in its WRC campaign.
Rossi, however, ruled that out too.
"To go from the highest technology on two wheels to a Punto seems a bit too much," he said.
(autosport.com)
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Who sells the most tires?
Something funny but maybe a little off topic to this off topic thread. I found these links when looking for verification of Michelin's claim to be the world's largest tire maker. Three links, three different conclusions:
http://www.familybusinessmagazine.com/topglobal.html
(c) 2004:
"World's #2 tire maker (behind Goodyear)"
http://www.michelinman.com/difference/r ... 2005a.html:
"The world's largest tire maker, Michelin ..."
So which one is lying?
Then again ...
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/news/us_en/c_40107a.html (Jan 2004):
"Nashville-based Bridgestone Americas Holding, Inc. (BSAH) is a subsidiary of Bridgestone Corporation, the world's largest tire and rubber company."
Pick you statistics and root for your favorite rubber!
http://www.familybusinessmagazine.com/topglobal.html
(c) 2004:
"World's #2 tire maker (behind Goodyear)"
http://www.michelinman.com/difference/r ... 2005a.html:
"The world's largest tire maker, Michelin ..."
So which one is lying?
Then again ...
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/news/us_en/c_40107a.html (Jan 2004):
"Nashville-based Bridgestone Americas Holding, Inc. (BSAH) is a subsidiary of Bridgestone Corporation, the world's largest tire and rubber company."
Pick you statistics and root for your favorite rubber!
Jeff Boswell wrote:There was a tire war in NASCAR between Hoosier and Goodyear back in the late eighty’s. When Hoosier showed up at the racetrack with tires that were uncompetitive and or unsafe they would let their drivers run Goodyears. Michelin should have bit the bullet and done the same thing.
I take great offense to the statement that suggested that NASCAR fans would become F1 fans “when and only then someone dies.” I might be a godfearing, blue collared, beer bellied, redneck NASCAR fan but I’m also a hardcore F1 fan and no one had to die to turn me into one.
The tire thing in F1 has been brewing for about 4 years, it got worst for this season with Mosley's (forced upon) rule of no tire changes for the weekend. Unfortunately it came to a very ugly head at Indy and in the USA which has killed any life F1 had in the USA. For all intensive purposes Indy ended the tire war for good. Michelin is finished in F1 and by 2007 all teams will most likely be on Bridgestones (though I have read rumors that both Goodyear, again, and Pirelli are interested in entering F1)
Who is to blame? In this case Michelin. The rule is the rule, as dumb as it is and it has been this way ALL season. Michlin showed up to Indy with a product unable to race. They screwed up and the blame is on them for it. However in the bigger picture I blame the FIA and Max Mosley for his silly rules that no teams wanted (yet politicaly could not resist). This is the third major tire issue this season and it was the ugliest.
Someone getting killed... Well I heard alot of people at Indy complaining that the Michlin teams should have raced...if someone crashed at least they got something for their money. Happily I didn't hear anyone hoping someone got killed but I have no doubt if the Michelin teams raced, someone would have got badly hurt and or killed...no matter what option they ran the race under. if that would have happened most fans would have walked away "satisfied" they got their money's worth....sadly.
Seeing all sides there was NO OTHER option for the race to happen other than how it did. The chicane option punished Ferrari/Bridgestone (who showed up ready to race), the lower speed/run through the pit lane was dangerous (imagine a Michelin car doing 60mph on turn 13 and the Ferrari doing 200mph...not nice, esepcially with the 4 very inexperience/dangerous Jordon/Minardi drivers on track, who have been in the way as moving chicanes all season). Michelin teams running bridgestone tires... it would not and could not ever happen. F1 cars are so sensative to tires and setup that just ploping different tires on the car, even say the last race spec for the current race setup would not only limit the performance of the car so badly but it would also be almost as dangerous for the drivers as going out on the faulty Michelins. Beyond that Bridgestone didn't have enough tires to supply the Michelin teams. Bridgestone wouldn't have given the Michelin teams the needed tire data and such, nor allow them to run a full race on their product and take the learned data away with them to Michelin. Lastly the marketing isues, it would not of happened via business reasons for most teams.
By 2007 or 2008 F1 will be on a control slick racing tire. This plays into the FIA's hand for them to control the tires, limit testing, reduce cost and boot out one tire manufacturer which 5 years ago they begged to into the sportpost Goodyear blowing it....
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There was a tire war in NASCAR between Hoosier and Goodyear back in the late eighty’s. When Hoosier showed up at the racetrack with tires that were uncompetitive and or unsafe they would let their drivers run Goodyears. Michelin should have bit the bullet and done the same thing.
I take great offense to the statement that suggested that NASCAR fans would become F1 fans “when and only then someone dies.” I might be a godfearing, blue collared, beer bellied, redneck NASCAR fan but I’m also a hardcore F1 fan and no one had to die to turn me into one.
I take great offense to the statement that suggested that NASCAR fans would become F1 fans “when and only then someone dies.” I might be a godfearing, blue collared, beer bellied, redneck NASCAR fan but I’m also a hardcore F1 fan and no one had to die to turn me into one.
These are class action lawsuits, pathetic in my opinion, my wife and I am exploring options to remove our names from said lawsuit.Jeff Boswell wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032830/
We renewed and upgraded out tickets last night too, just incase there is a USGP next year...if not we will go to Montreal or Monza!
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Ferrari isn't to blame there buddy.Jim Weatherwax wrote:I am one who had a great time friday and saturday, but sunday pissed me off royally...
all the Michelin teams (even the other 2 bridgestones) said lets give the ferraris the points, put a chicane in and just race in front of the fans.....John (the asshole blowing bernie) Todt wouldnt agree to that...they felt the need keep the michelin situation at the forefront and run knowing that all the michelin guys wouldnt run if there was no compromise for safety...had I been a michelin driver I would have stayed out, forced a ferrari into a wall safely to end their day, then parked my car with the safety concerns.I was on the scanners all morning...Flavio, P. Sauber and Stoddart all said before the last minute meeting that they would grid, then put the cars in the boxes and not risk lives....so I was expecting the worst.....and it happened, at least nobody dies, then and only then would F1 become popular with the nascrap fans...
It will be great watching all the michelin teams beat the whiny Maranello bitches the rest of the season..Kimi would have handed Michael his ass had they run on the same tires, and that will happen the rest of the year. I love F1, but I wont go to another race as long as Bernie and max are runnig the bs show..
You would "force" the Ferrari into the wall "safely"? Give me a break. First of all who made you god. Second of all how do you not find that insanely dangerous?
They had nothing to do with the issue, even many of the Michelin teams have said that they didn't. Why should Ferrari be punished for Michelin showing up unable to race? My wife and I were in Indy since Wednesday, we had a great time and will be back next year, no question.
If the Michelin teams raced tire issue free I agree Kimi would have spanked the field. Jarno and most likely Alonso would have completed the podium. The Michelin teams gave Ferrari the points because Ferrari doesn't factor into either title this year. Ferrari is mid pack at best this season, fighting for podiums but not wins.
Say they ran the cars through the pit or put a chincane on 13....how would that of been any different than what we did see? Ferrari would have walked away. Beyond that the Michlin tire problem wasn't just on turn 13, it could have happened anywhere. Imagine going into turn 1 under braking Kimi and Webber's cars blew their rear tires in the front end of the pack....imagine the carnage that would have resulted. Sadly in that case most of the meathead fans there would have been happy they saw a crash.
Speaking of meatheads I hope YOU weren't one of the people throwing stuff onto the track!
(BTW - I'd clean up the language in your post)
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USGPBS
I am one who had a great time friday and saturday, but sunday pissed me off royally...
all the Michelin teams (even the other 2 bridgestones) said lets give the ferraris the points, put a chicane in and just race in front of the fans.....John (the asshole blowing bernie) Todt wouldnt agree to that...they felt the need keep the michelin situation at the forefront and run knowing that all the michelin guys wouldnt run if there was no compromise for safety...had I been a michelin driver I would have stayed out, forced a ferrari into a wall safely to end their day, then parked my car with the safety concerns.I was on the scanners all morning...Flavio, P. Sauber and Stoddart all said before the last minute meeting that they would grid, then put the cars in the boxes and not risk lives....so I was expecting the worst.....and it happened, at least nobody dies, then and only then would F1 become popular with the nascrap fans...
It will be great watching all the michelin teams beat the whiny Maranello bitches the rest of the season..Kimi would have handed Michael his ass had they run on the same tires, and that will happen the rest of the year. I love F1, but I wont go to another race as long as Bernie and max are runnig the bs show..
all the Michelin teams (even the other 2 bridgestones) said lets give the ferraris the points, put a chicane in and just race in front of the fans.....John (the asshole blowing bernie) Todt wouldnt agree to that...they felt the need keep the michelin situation at the forefront and run knowing that all the michelin guys wouldnt run if there was no compromise for safety...had I been a michelin driver I would have stayed out, forced a ferrari into a wall safely to end their day, then parked my car with the safety concerns.I was on the scanners all morning...Flavio, P. Sauber and Stoddart all said before the last minute meeting that they would grid, then put the cars in the boxes and not risk lives....so I was expecting the worst.....and it happened, at least nobody dies, then and only then would F1 become popular with the nascrap fans...
It will be great watching all the michelin teams beat the whiny Maranello bitches the rest of the season..Kimi would have handed Michael his ass had they run on the same tires, and that will happen the rest of the year. I love F1, but I wont go to another race as long as Bernie and max are runnig the bs show..
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Re: Nothing "Grand" about this fiasco.
I'm not a schumi fan (well not hardcore, I respect him).... but Jarno Trulli and Kimi are my drivers...Wesley Tucker wrote:U.S. Grand prix: Can you say "FUCKED UP" in two words or less?
Hey, Stepanek: DO NOT come in here and start bragging about Schumacher finally getting a win.
Man, I have NEVER seen anything like that before. All I can say is that if I spent a couple of thousand for a weekend in Indy and tickets to the race, I would be LIVID right now.
So, ok, enough of a rant. Who wants to lay odds on how long it takes Bridgestone to get an ad on TV about "who makes the RIGHT tire for any occassion?"
I was (am) here in Indy. My wife and I spent 5 wonderful days here. I'm not miffed at anything. I saw what I saw and saw something historic happen. The tire issue has been going on for about 4 years and it finally blew up badly here in Indy. It was unfortunate but that is F1. Bridgestone has been getting spanked all seaosn due to the silly tire rules, it is ironic that they benefited so much today.
Politics are a large part of it...hey kinda like slalom now-a-days.
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Nothing "Grand" about this fiasco.
U.S. Grand prix: Can you say "FUCKED UP" in two words or less?
Hey, Stepanek: DO NOT come in here and start bragging about Schumacher finally getting a win.
Man, I have NEVER seen anything like that before. All I can say is that if I spent a couple of thousand for a weekend in Indy and tickets to the race, I would be LIVID right now.
So, ok, enough of a rant. Who wants to lay odds on how long it takes Bridgestone to get an ad on TV about "who makes the RIGHT tire for any occassion?"
Hey, Stepanek: DO NOT come in here and start bragging about Schumacher finally getting a win.
Man, I have NEVER seen anything like that before. All I can say is that if I spent a couple of thousand for a weekend in Indy and tickets to the race, I would be LIVID right now.
So, ok, enough of a rant. Who wants to lay odds on how long it takes Bridgestone to get an ad on TV about "who makes the RIGHT tire for any occassion?"
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It's nice for a change and good for the sport. Right Chris?
PS. Poor Shoomi...
PPS. Finding out F1 results from the offtopic topic on a slalom site...
PPPS. Chaput is ok and well. He's been very busy, that's all.
PPPPS. I still can, but I don't enjoy.
PPPPPS. It's the end of the world. Gilmour's got a job.
PS. Poor Shoomi...
PPS. Finding out F1 results from the offtopic topic on a slalom site...
PPPS. Chaput is ok and well. He's been very busy, that's all.
PPPPS. I still can, but I don't enjoy.
PPPPPS. It's the end of the world. Gilmour's got a job.
Now Wesley.. I just got home from raftin' in the snow (remember..Weekends are my livelyhood in spring summer and fall!! I see his Majesty Michael breathin' down the tranny o' dat' French made model!! I sit on the couch in my cold, wet attire (much to my wifes dismay) and shiver ...Yelling Go Michael GO!!!!!!!!!!!! The boy still's got it and Ferrari seems to have worked out some snags..Next time my boy..next time!
ENJOY!! (while you can)
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An Italian police department has acquired a Lamborghini Gallardo for traffic law enforcement. The report on CNN showed Italian kids purposefully taunting the cops so they'd get pulled and hauled into the station . . . in the passenger seat!
Best quote of the story was one of the policemen saying, "I enjoy explaining to Ferrari drivers how they could have avoided arrest if only they were driving a faster car!"
Best quote of the story was one of the policemen saying, "I enjoy explaining to Ferrari drivers how they could have avoided arrest if only they were driving a faster car!"
god I hope not....Vlad Popov wrote:Oh, great...What's next, BMW?
the deal is that Rossi gets to drive the Toyota (which is a PIG this season) and the Toyota #1 driver gets to ride Rossi's Yamaha...there are some issues with Toyota and Yamaha corporate getting along to make it happen but it is all over the F1 press today saying Toyota has given a green light.
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http://www.itv-f1.com/news/news_story/20092
More gas on the Rossi to F1 fire...but this time linked to Toyota, not Ferarri....hmmm?
More gas on the Rossi to F1 fire...but this time linked to Toyota, not Ferarri....hmmm?
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"Ferrari World Champions" by Danny Day
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Thought you might appreciate this painting by a childhood friend of mine (Danny Day). It features all the Ferrari World Champions....Alberto Ascari, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mike Hawthorn, Phil Hill, John Surtees, Niki Lauda, Jody Scheckter and Michael Schumacher.
There will probably be limited lithos made from this painting. If your are interested, let me know and I will contact him. Day is now painting the 4 GT40 Lemans Winners. Should be cool.

Thought you might appreciate this painting by a childhood friend of mine (Danny Day). It features all the Ferrari World Champions....Alberto Ascari, Juan Manuel Fangio, Mike Hawthorn, Phil Hill, John Surtees, Niki Lauda, Jody Scheckter and Michael Schumacher.
There will probably be limited lithos made from this painting. If your are interested, let me know and I will contact him. Day is now painting the 4 GT40 Lemans Winners. Should be cool.

jerez and catalunya are two main F1 winter test tracks as well. it makes sense all various teams test in the same locations no matter what type of racing it is. I imagine not all race circuits are ready for prime time in the winter months.
Still testing at Sepang is hardcore....that is one mean circuit.
Still testing at Sepang is hardcore....that is one mean circuit.
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not too sure of the specific schedule/dates (can't find the official IRTA stuff anywhere) but they do also test in europe. i'm pretty sure jerez and catalunya are definitely there.
another good site is www.motogp.com theres a brief, but interesting, piece by randy mamola on rossi at sepang.
another good site is www.motogp.com theres a brief, but interesting, piece by randy mamola on rossi at sepang.