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Tim Bekmaz · Post by **Tim Bekmaz** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:31 am

i just invaded the local 99 cent store and got plastic tumbler cup things that are tall enough that if i hit em they will get outa the way 4 for a dollar!!!! i got 20 completely un aware of how many i needed, looks like ill be makeing another trip!

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:34 am

Ricky,
I see what your saying now. That site you gave shows the "Ultra Cheercones" with the bottom lip unmarked for 79 cents each.

At Daniel Poweleit's site: www.cruisin.de he has some good pictures of both the Turner(Seismic/3dm) and Airflow cones.

Here is a picture off his site of the Airflow's cones stacked in comparison to the Turners:

As a practice cone where you might have to carry them for a distance to a spot the Airflow type might be very handy. Or if you wanted a compact cone that packs well. I'd assume from this picture, aside from stacking more compact, that Airflow cones are much lighter than the Turner cones. Are they as thin as the lip on the base suggests?

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:52 pm

Cones from www.ConeRacing.com (France) would cost you
€36 for 20 cones, so 50 cones for 90 €
We carry both Turner and Seismic cones (so white, orange and read).

Shipping is only €15 within the EU, despite the enormous weight of these cones, so I guess it adds up to a better total cost than from the UK.

/Jani

Ricky Byrd · Post by **Ricky Byrd** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:37 pm

I'm saying the Cheerphones are the Airflow cones. Looks like Airflow took the Cheerphone vendor up on the graphics on the cone option.

Don't get me wrong they worked well. I used mine for about a year. I found I had to double up the cones on a windy day. Could it be that wind gets under the curled up edge easily? No sure on that.

Mother Nature sets some tough courses.

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:41 pm

Ricky Byrd wrote:The Airflow cones are very much like the old "Cheerphones". Light weight, move with a good breeze. Shatter if you nail one hard in cold weather.
If you must see them, see them here...
http://www.shindigz.com/shop.cfm?caid=154785

Ricky are you saying this about the Cheerphones or the Airflow cones?

I remember Chris Eggers saying somewhere on the forum here that he liked the Airflow cones in that they were more stable, being not as tall, a bit wider base and the little lip at the bottom meant a slight tap did not knock them over as easily as the Turner cones.

Brady Mitchell · Post by **Brady Mitchell** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:46 pm

I just did a US $ search to english pound search and the 50 L = about $92.44 US.

So even if shipping costs were in the $20-30 range, it would still be cheaper ordering direct from Seismic.

But even the $3.24 per cone for the airflow cones is a good bargain. You`ll have these cones forever.

And I also like to support my local buisnesses as much as possible.

Now for the big question....

<b>
Who`s gonna make a bright green cone? (ala ABEC 11 green)

Ricky Byrd · Post by **Ricky Byrd** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:37 pm

The Airflow cones are very much like the old "Cheerphones". Light weight, move with a good breeze. Shatter if you nail one hard in cold weather.

There's nothing like the real thing (3DM/Turner/Seismic).

If you must see them, see them here...
http://www.shindigz.com/shop.cfm?caid=154785

Jack Quarantillo · Post by **Jack Quarantillo** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:17 pm

Daniel,
Shipping will be expensive from Seismic. I recently bought 50 cones back when they were still 3dm, and I remember the shipping & handling etc. within the US was high, I cannot remember exactly, maybe $20-30?.

Here's the contact info for Seismic:

Seismic Skate Systems, Inc.

1630A 30th St., PMB 257
Boulder, CO 80301 USA
Tel: 303 440-9449
Fax: 303 440-7106
SeismicSK8@aol.com

www.seismicskate.com
info@seismicskate.com

But I'm guessing there is a more local source. Hopefully Jani or Chris Eggers or someone else closer to you will chime in.

Q

Brady Mitchell · Post by **Brady Mitchell** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:30 pm

Daniel.
Check with Michael at Octane Sport in England. He sells the Turner/3dm cones 50 for 50L (english pounds).

http://www.octanesport.com/

Yeah, that might be more than the Seismics, but shipping should be a lot cheaper and faster. It might be worth the while?

Daniel Brechmann · Post by **Daniel Brechmann** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:51 pm

yeah, shipping will be the problem. does anybody know how much a 50´s package of seismic cones would take to be sent to germany?

Brady Mitchell · Post by **Brady Mitchell** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:34 pm

I think the Seismics will probably be the better deal cost wise...
<img src="http://store6.yimg.com/I/3dm-sport_1777_3049536">

Dan is corrently offering 50 cones for $50 (US)
Go here... http://store.yahoo.com/3dm-sport/slc50.html

Brady Mitchell · Post by **Brady Mitchell** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:21 pm

Daniel,
The Airflow website is hard to navigate in english as it`s not thier first language. I did find this and think it`s correct??

per 10 count...
CHF/EURO
40.- / 26,5€

(currently $32.44 US or $3.24 ea.)

add shipping??

Daniel Brechmann · Post by **Daniel Brechmann** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:50 pm

the airflow cones look very nice with that flower. costs?

Jack Smith · Post by **Jack Smith** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:51 am

Over the last two years I have watched thousands of runs down all types of courses in competition settings. I've also made thousands of practice runs myself. The cones used were Turner, Seismic and 3DM.

I can count on one hand the number of stuffed/wedged cones I have seen or encountered.

Dave Gale · Post by **Dave Gale** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:22 am

Re: airflow cones.. the graphic resembles the ever elusive flower of the Ramp!!

Dave Gale · Post by **Dave Gale** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:21 am

In my opinion Brady is correct! The softer more pliable cones are not the prefered way to go! Once your board eats one, you won't forget !! However, It is NEVER advisable to "ride" any cone!!

Brady Mitchell · Post by **Brady Mitchell** » Mon Feb 09, 2004 2:33 am

I ditched my plastic soccer cones once I got the Turners and will never ride them again. After a few stuffed cones, causing board to lock up and pitch me, has been all the experiance I need with them.

Heck, I recently refused to ride a course when they set about 30 cones down on th bottom.

Has anyone used these cones and can report back to the community? Are they similar to Turners?

Airflow cones

Daniel Brechmann · Post by **Daniel Brechmann** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:26 pm

Well to answer all questions:
When you ride over a tennis ball nearly nothing happens. You just feel that you rode over it, but you don't fall.
I use old tennisballs which I asked for at the local tennis club.
...and by the way you don't need to clean them.

Daniel

Martin Siegrist · Post by **Martin Siegrist** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:19 pm

I clean my balls while taking a shower!

Slappy Maxwell · Post by **Slappy Maxwell** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 5:02 am

How do you clean your balls?

Kevin M. Gamble · Post by **Kevin M. Gamble** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:55 pm

And what happens if you roll on a tennisball?

I've used the half tennis-ball idea when I didn't have room to take 50 cones on vacation. They work very well. When you hit or run over them, they just flatten out and pop right back, but do not get tangled in or wrapped up in the wheels.

BTW, I used the tennis balls that are sold as dog toys, and I got them 3 for a buck.

To approximate a course set with cones, you should increase the stagger on your course when using them. Since they are only about an inch tall, it is easy to slalom a lot closer to the tennis balls since your shins will never hit them.

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:00 pm

For a cheap (meaning free) and easy way to get some slalom markers, try this:

Get some PLASTIC SODA POP BOTTLES with THE LID. The number depends on how many you can rummage out of the trash and off the road side.

Fill each bottle about one-third to half full with either WATER or SAND. Put the cap on tightly.

Set up a slalom course.

These work really well. They bounce off you board without rolling under the wheels, they take abuse pretty well and they are easy to see on black asphalt or concrete. Also, with the weight in the bottle, they stand up well against the wind but will knock over easily when hit.

And the best part of it is why cry if you lose one or one gets broken? Just throw it away and get another one. What's more is that as your slalom skill improve and you want longer courses, just get some more bottles.

The one drawback is they don't stack at all. You'll need a plastic garbage bag or a large cardboard box to carry them.

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:24 pm

And what happens if you roll on a tennisball?

rmn

Daniel Brechmann · Post by **Daniel Brechmann** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:17 pm

well my solution:
take about 10 tennis balls and cut them in 2 pieces.
for getting started this is pretty good.

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:19 pm

I worry when I see proposals for cones other than Turner / 3dm or the new Seismic cones.

There are two skate cone manufacturer with identical models which are ideal for slalom racing. The right size, the right weight, the right bounciness (or whatever it is called).

They're not even expensive. They're cheap compared to most other cones that are less suited. I would recommend most skaters to buy themselves a stack of 25-30. With that you can practice alone. If one of your friends brings his cones as well you can set longer courses.

Don't use anything else.

John Gilmour · Post by **John Gilmour** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:43 pm

Yano, If you like I'll skate with you in November while I am in Japan. How many cones do you have? I'd prefer not to have to bring my own.

Do you need any gear brought over? Does Japan have a good timing system?

I can see it now....those Japanese....... They'll take our USA made system and turn the thing into something the size of a postage stamp-lol.

Brian Morris · Post by **Brian Morris** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:01 am

I use the solo cup method myself. I set plaster in the bottom of them so they don't blow over when i skate by, or the wind blows.

Brian

Pat Chewning · Post by **Pat Chewning** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:45 am

Good price on soccer cones at:

http://www.aysostore.com/cones1.html

You can get them as low as $.55 each.

Quantity 1 50 100 400+
Unit Price $0.75 $0.70 $0.60 $0.55

You will have to cut off the base (square base) to make them safer. These are the exact same cones I bought at a local soccer store. They wanted $1.50 each and I talked them down to $1.00 each when I bought 30 of them.

-- Pat Chewning

Scott Yano · Post by **Scott Yano** » Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:22 am

Turner cones have landed in Japan! Got my Turner cones last week--ordered them sent to buddy's place in Portola Valley, CA, USA over the holiday, and he, being a nice guy, brought 'em over in his luggage. Had his bags checked at the airport, though. They apparently look like missiles on the new scanning equipment they have (he had a 3 lb. salami that showed up as plastic explosive, as well). This weekend is a long one, so I can't wait to go out to cut and miss those cones...
Scott

John Gilmour · Post by **John Gilmour** » Thu Nov 07, 2002 6:28 am

How about going to any convention and stocking up on those giveaway mouse pads?

Noah Heinle · Post by **Noah Heinle** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 8:03 pm

I tried the washer idea once. It's a good one, but I think it's important to practice with obstacles that are the same size as the base of a slalom cone. At Morro Bay, I heard that Hutson and maybe a few of the other Santa Cruz racers (Miko?) use rubber discs cut to about 6" in diameter. This sounds to me like a great idea as I have several roads that I'd love to set courses on, but can't because of traffic, etc. I picked up a couple of rubber jar openers....you know, the ones that are sometimes given out with company logos as promo gimmicks. They're pretty much the same diameter as a cone base, but I haven't tried to roll over them with force to see how traction is affected. I think the concept is good though. I'm sure we all have roads to poach. Throw down 20-30 rubber pads on the street and take your run when traffic allows.

I discussed this with a few people last weekend at the RedBull race in Brooklyn. There were other ideas about what kind of rubber to use, like cloth backed rubber. There is testing to be done here. If we can find a material that isn't so light that it will blow away, but resilient and sticky enough to allow skateboards to roll over them without pitching you off, we may be on to a good way to open up a lot of roads for fun without permanently marking or obstructing traffic. What do ya think?

Tim Keasbey · Post by **Tim Keasbey** » Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:50 pm

I have had great luck using large washers for practice in my suburban neighboorhood.

The cars never even see them i.e. no one complains.

Yes they are harder to see but this is practice.

No, my wheels do not slip when I run over them...anymore.

Start with large fender washers 1 1/4 and up. Prime and paint one side the brightest color you can find. When dry flip disks and apply a 1/4" bead of silicone sealant around the washer. Carefully place the washers goo side down on waxed paper and press the washers down flat so a small amount of sealant extends beyond the edge of the disk. Allow to dry overnight in a 100 degree Virginia Garage and you are done (100 Degree Virginia Garage not required).

No they are not Turner cones but the hold up better when runover by cars.

Timbobwei

Chris Raezer · Post by **Chris Raezer** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 10:32 pm

The Solo cups are exactly what I did until I got my Turner cones. And after you're done using the cups for slalom, you can use them at your in-laws picnic

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Gary Hornby · Post by **Gary Hornby** » Wed Sep 18, 2002 5:53 am

In a pinch???? Plastic Solo Beer cups (20 oz.) from Costco or the "cheep store" will get you through until Brown shows at your door or you can save up the cash for some real ones.

Adam Trahan · Post by **Adam Trahan** » Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:23 pm

Everyone needs cones. I recommend purchasing the Turner / 3dm cones Turner Cone.

If you can't, do a search of the internet...

Take a strong pair of scissors and trim the base to make cutting the cone (racing past) closer easier. If your area is prone to wind, trim or drill the top to prevent the cone from "skimming" when racing past it as well.

I personally own 80ea but a quiver of 40 cones is adequate.

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