Paul's 2 Cents on Wheel Coning
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:47 am
I agree with Pat that wheels flex far more than Axles. I'll add this, "standard" offsets that are made by chopping and welding like with trackers and Indy's and Radikal Dragon's Tail(rear Truck) flex more than others because of all that torsion(? I think that's the word, Pat feel free to correct me) on the "wings/brackets/whatever" and thus they cone wheels the most.
Next, TTC's cone almost as much as the above because the stock TTC's are ALL out of alignment as far as I could tell(Wallgren will amply back me up on this), and the wheels try to wear into less pressure on the pressure points caused by the missalighment.
Next, AirFlow OS, and Splitfires cone MUCH less because the alignment is good and the hanger is solid,
Best for least coning is the Rebuilt 8mm straight axle RT-S, 8mm rebuilt straight axle Seismic, or PVD because those have the straightest axles and flex the least. But, wheels will still cone on them. What I like about centerset bearing wheels(Grippins) on these is that they will cone almost symmetrically with the most coning almost smack-dab in the middle. Still they will cone slightly assymetrically due to uneven pressure loading of the inner egde Vs. Outer edge relative to the turning action and uneven loading of the inner verses outer wheel in a turn. If you ride Grippins on any other truck that flex's or isn't TRULY aligned(a quick hanger only spin test with a wheel on one end with the axle nut snugged on), it will cone noticably more assymetrically because of uneven loading and abraision.
I truly believe a coned wheel truly does have more traction than an unconed wheel and less speed, both dependant on how much coning there is.
As far as traction and speed and coned Vs new- in 2002 to 2005-ish, a LOT of pro's and regular racers such as myself swore by the "Use a brand new set of unconed but slightly worn" strategy. It worked for a while. Then as courses got a lot more technical in 2004 to the present, people started to notice that traction throught the turns and making the course clean and not sliding was paying off more than the simple straight roll speed advantage of an unconed wheel on a hard technical course(using the same wheel, same hardness, same width, same brand, etc).
I have even seen more than once, people showing up to races in the last year with brand new, never ridden pre-coned wheels they altered with a lathe or beltsander. They did get more traction, but me personally I'd rather ride my wheels into coned condition, but that's me, plus, heelside Vs toeside wheels cone slightly differently so for that reason I would rather wear(cone) my wheels by riding them so they reach coning "equilibrium" with the trucks and the board and the rider, etc. Although, it you do precone your wheels, I would think it would be best to make them as identically coned to each other as possible to start with.
Hope this is of some use, good luck-Paul
Next, TTC's cone almost as much as the above because the stock TTC's are ALL out of alignment as far as I could tell(Wallgren will amply back me up on this), and the wheels try to wear into less pressure on the pressure points caused by the missalighment.
Next, AirFlow OS, and Splitfires cone MUCH less because the alignment is good and the hanger is solid,
Best for least coning is the Rebuilt 8mm straight axle RT-S, 8mm rebuilt straight axle Seismic, or PVD because those have the straightest axles and flex the least. But, wheels will still cone on them. What I like about centerset bearing wheels(Grippins) on these is that they will cone almost symmetrically with the most coning almost smack-dab in the middle. Still they will cone slightly assymetrically due to uneven pressure loading of the inner egde Vs. Outer edge relative to the turning action and uneven loading of the inner verses outer wheel in a turn. If you ride Grippins on any other truck that flex's or isn't TRULY aligned(a quick hanger only spin test with a wheel on one end with the axle nut snugged on), it will cone noticably more assymetrically because of uneven loading and abraision.
I truly believe a coned wheel truly does have more traction than an unconed wheel and less speed, both dependant on how much coning there is.
As far as traction and speed and coned Vs new- in 2002 to 2005-ish, a LOT of pro's and regular racers such as myself swore by the "Use a brand new set of unconed but slightly worn" strategy. It worked for a while. Then as courses got a lot more technical in 2004 to the present, people started to notice that traction throught the turns and making the course clean and not sliding was paying off more than the simple straight roll speed advantage of an unconed wheel on a hard technical course(using the same wheel, same hardness, same width, same brand, etc).
I have even seen more than once, people showing up to races in the last year with brand new, never ridden pre-coned wheels they altered with a lathe or beltsander. They did get more traction, but me personally I'd rather ride my wheels into coned condition, but that's me, plus, heelside Vs toeside wheels cone slightly differently so for that reason I would rather wear(cone) my wheels by riding them so they reach coning "equilibrium" with the trucks and the board and the rider, etc. Although, it you do precone your wheels, I would think it would be best to make them as identically coned to each other as possible to start with.
Hope this is of some use, good luck-Paul