[2005] Outlaw Race in Park City, Utah?

[Martin Drayton]

The issue that came out today has pics of Kevin, Kelby and Dustin...I have copies for Kev & Kelb!
Also check out their website for pics of some of the rest of you guys! http://parkrecord.mycapture.com/mycaptu ... vent=66091
Martin.

[Billy Bordy]

Here they are! Nice work every one.



The time orders are TS- GS--H--Total I can,t seem to get the heading over the times on the forum.

Veterans (over 50) TS GS H Total
Gib Lewis-Colorado (COSS Team) 14.02 24.97 26.01 64.99

Mens (over 40)
Kevin Hornibrook-Logan (UPC Team) 12.71 24.21 24.17 61.09
Bob Harper-Boise (UPC Team) 14.48 26.01 27.86 68.35
Greg Erickson-Heber City (UPC Team) 17.47 31.04 31.09 79.60
Scott Murphy- SLC (Brighton Ski Team) DNS 29.12 DNS

Mens (21-40) TS GS H Total
Mike May-SLC (UPC Team) 13.36 24.00 26.03 63.39
Chris Peddecord-SLC (UPC Team) 15.61 26.57 28.16 70.34
Fernando Steffey-SLC 18.26 29.68 38.74 86.68
Jared Quilter-Park City (UPC Team) 18.73 29.95 DNS
Jeremy Davis-Park City DNS 28.78 32.97
John Pohl-Park City DNS 29.08 32.78
Greg McCormick-Heber City DNS 30.56 DNS
Jerry B. -SLC DNF DNF

Youths(under 21) TS GS H Total
Daisuke Sakamoto-Japan 21.06 30.21 33.09 84.36
Skylar Seabrook-Park City DNS 25.91 45.84
Dustin Paulsen-Sandy DNS 36.51 41.70
Kelby Harper-Logan (UPC Team) DNS 26.95 DNF

Boys (under 15)
Kevin Loughlin-Park City DNF 30.61 DNF

Women (over 40)
Trish Erickson-Heber City (UPC Team) 16.87 27.31 29.27 73.45

Women (21-40)
Christy Bordy-Heber City (UPC Team) 18.85 29.89 34.60 84.34
Jackie Baulch-Park City DNS 61.14 DNS
Maggie Nichols-SLC DNS DNF DNS

[Billy Bordy]

Great time! Great racing... Thanks everyone for making it happen. I Can,t wait to do it again next year We have a handfull of photos posted here [url] http://hardbooter.com/gallery/Longboarding

I am working on some video for the UPC crew...

It was a great turn out.

See you Thursday a 5!

[trish erickson]

Hey Mike,

Your Uncle took some great pictures. Thank you!? for posting Greg and me. Kevin deserved it for sure. I would love to have a disc of all the shots he got. Just lets us know how and when and how much ok? I tried to post yesterday but was unable to log on to this site but I just wanted to say thanks to Martin. I am soooo hooked on this sport. I hope that this continues on next summer. I will be riding for sure. I had such a great time meeting and skating with you all! The race was great. Thanks to everyone that was so nice to the the "coneheads." Carly can't wait to do it again. Thanks to all the sponsors that sent all the swag. That was a nice thing to do. And thanks to everyone who showed up to watch and to everyone who helped with all the things it takes to make a race happen. I really had no idea how much work it is. What a great day.....do it again next year? Ya!

see ya all until the snow flies,

Trish

[Bob Harper]

Boi what a day yesterday. It couldn't have run smoother. It was great seeing new faces getting into the wiggly thing,and watching their turns progressing. By this time next year,UPC will be faster than Next Day Air.
Thanks to all the supporters,sponsers,coneheads,photodogs,time keeping technitions,comunication personel,the longboard sliders,all the guys who like to turn hi tech sk8s really friggin fast,and most off all that one dude who took 2005 world tight slalom open mens. You all made my day. I hope to get down for a couple more before the snow falls,if not it was a great time and I met some great people. I"m looking forward to next season and ROAD TRIPS.
And another thanks to the unknow longboarders that found my cell phone and turned it in to the P.C. Police. It is being sent back to me.

It was a great day for Me and my Kids
G-pa Wiggly

[miKe M]

i'm so excited this race went off without a hitch!
thanks everybody for making this summer a great skating summer! i am so used to longboarding and downhilling alone. i'm glad that we all hooked up and i have a great group of friends to skate with now. i can only imagine next year!

anway, my uncle was up taking pictures on sunday. it sounds like we got quite a lot of media exposure for the event, but i wanted to make sure each of us got a little photographic memoir for the summer. i got all the pictures today and am burning CD's soon. they are all about 3 megs, so let me know if you want me to email them to you instead. they are all great quality that you can print out. if anybody has access to some webspace we could post all of these, let me know. otherwise i will get these distributed on a one by one basis. my uncle only asks that if we end up giving these to anybody, he gets credit. posting on BB's are just fine...

anyway, here are a few teasers...
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[Martin Drayton]

WOW!!!! What an amazing day... It made all that hard work worthwhile to see all those happy faces at the end of the day. Once I get the paperwork off "MC Billy", I will post full results.
I cannot believe that this all started with a conversation between Jeremy Davis and myself and an e-mail from me to Mike May with a suggestion that we get together in PC and skate (I get bored skating on my own), to an event with over 20 competitors, as many spectators, two photographers and a TV crew!

The standard was very impressive and those new to the sport were taken aback by the speed and skill of you guys. When the TV spot airs in a month, the whole of PC will be amazed!

NEXT SUMMER UPC WILL BE HUGE!
We have so many more locals who want to skate regularly now, the momentum is enormous...I just wish we had more summer left!
I didn't get a chance to thank the sponsors at the end (I did at the start), so here goes!

Without the following companies and individuals our 1st Annual Shindig would not have been the day that it was:

RoeRacing
Park City Mountain Resort
Bahne Skateboards
Concrete Wave Magazine
Max's Snowboard Shop
SK8Kings
Bob Harper
Skateshops of Logan
Destination Sports/PC Park & Ride
Khiro
Hardbooter.com
Brighton Ski Team
Pocket Pistols
Tracker Trucks
DownHill Billies
Asphalt Playground
and the Members of UPC!


For giving their time and going that extra mile, for doing stuff like posters (Chris), bringing the trailer (Trish & Greg), distributing & printing posters (Mike) MCing (Billy), ALL you UPC'ers made me proud to be associated with you.
Hopefully I haven't forgotten anyone...
I also want to say a huge thank you to Utah's coolest group of skaters, that award you gave me, that Bob made so beautifully, almost brought tears to my eyes. I will NEVER forget that moment...THANK YOU!

[Billy Bordy]

O-kay its here the Fall Shindig! But it is windy, windy, windy. Lets go find out who can pump and tuck!!!

[Martin Drayton]

Woke up at 3:15am and suddenly remembered stuff!

1)So that the top of the course doesn't get too crowded, I'm thinking we should get people to park in the Lower Cul-de-sac of Eagle Pointe (actual name of the hill) once the top area starts to get full.

2)I will put signs on race day directing people from Kearns Blvd to the race hill.

3)Will set up my GMail/Yahoo account to automatically send directions.

4)Can someone bring trash bags...Can anyone staying to the end help pick up trash?
THERE MUST BE NO TRACE THAT WE WERE EVER THERE IF WE ARE TO KEEP OUR SPOT!

This is getting exciting!

[Martin Drayton]

Thanks Marion! Just wish we could all beam ourselves down to your race, sounds like it would be a blast!

I think 5 more riders from PC are coming, folks that I work with. One is a good outside bet, he has some slalom skills. Also, remember the video guy from PCTV? Well looks like his talented brother will be dropping in....Hmmmm (Big Bro might bring the camera-2 camera crews )
Billy and I will be setting and marking the courses before Sunday's event. Last thoughts on stuff to bring....

A big plain sheet/blanket to lay the prizes on.
Push broom.
Bring some warm clothes, weather.com says getting warmer but possibly windy, so if you have any cones, please bring them in case we have to double up!

Sleep tight my little ones you have a big day coming up!

[trish erickson]

Hey Everybody,

I just got a call from Marion Karr. If you all don't know who he is, He's the greatest, most energetic, sharin' the stoke leader oft he Downhillbillies. Check out the website! I wear the team shirt to almost all of the thursday jams sessions. Marion called to let you all know that he sent some stuff for our race, including some t-shirts. He though that us Utah girls would look sexy wearing them for PJ's. Thats because he only had xl and xxxl to send. He wanted Martin to know that he sent it to the shop. So hopefully martin will be able to pick it up for Sunday. I loved talking with him. Marion, I am so glad we finally got to visit via phone and not just through the forums. This guy has soooo much stoke! This is what skatin' is all about! sharin the stoke and having fun. Marion, thanks for helping us to all remember what this is all about. Someday I will be racing you in the seniors class!


See ya all Sunday,

Trish

[Martin Drayton]

Yeah Mike, he is, but people will also have to pace themselves...Its a loooooooong day! Slip him a few beers as the day goes on!

STOP PRESS! Andy from Max's shop here in PC has arranged for a TV company to come film!!!!

[miKe M]

Jam Format? Kevin must have had something to do with this....


no really, i'm super stoked for this weekend. does jam format include max amount of runs, or can you just hit it as many times as you want to get your times down? i have to admit, kevin is awefully good at shaving off those tenths and hundreths by his 11th or 12 runs.

can't wait for sunday. let me know if there is anything i can help with other than bringing whatever food and beer i feel like. i'll bring some to share with everybody.

[Martin Drayton]

Max's Snowboard Shop in Park City has given us skate trucks, accesories and grip tape for 15 boards!...Thanks Andy.

And just in.....

Martin -- I'm swamped with things right now though I did send a package off to you yesterday (to your PO Box which should arrive tomorrow). I had intended to include a couple of my new Worlds 2004 dvd but alas did not have the pressing/packaging done in time to include in the shipment. Sooooooo, I want to "pledge" two copies to be given out as prizes at your event. If the recipients can contact me post event -- I will mail out directly to them. Sorry for the piece-meal donation . . . I need a clone!

Good luck with your event!

With best regards,

Maria Carrasco, Operations Manager
SK8KINGS/OFF THE RAILS PRODUCTIONS

Great to see everyone skating tonight, I'm definately tipping Kevin for the no.1 spot..Mind you Mr.May was looking quick on his new set-up! The battle between Trish and Christy will be interesting...

Just to confirm, final details for Sunday are...

10am start.....Giant Slalom...2hr jam format. 0.2sec cone penalty (no max)

12am start.....Hybrid Slalom...2hr jam format. 0.1sec cone penalty (no max)

2pm start.....Tight Slalom...2hr jam format. 0.1sec cone penalty (no max)

4.30pm BBQ!

Mrs.B don't forget the table, chairs and Flip chart/whiteboard...Thanks Teach!

[miKe M]

posters are printed. i'll distribute a few, and have the bundle up at the hill tonight for people use.


l8s,

mike

[Martin Drayton]

Just got an e-mail from Jack Smith pledging to send a Bahne deck, which he has suggested to be awarded to a newbie who gives their all!
Thanks Jack!

[Martin Drayton]

How cool is that poster? Nice work Chris! Sunday will be awesome, I cannot believe the generousity of the sponsors named on the poster.
There are still a couple of packages to arrive (Concrete Wave,Roe,Sk8Kings,PP-all en route!), but so far we've got , decks, trucks, bushings, risers, free lift tickets for Park City, windstopper jacket and pants and a snowboard!!!
EVERYONE will go home with something! Damn, I wish I was racing...

The Skateboarding Community rocks!!!

[Chris Peddecord]

UPDATE! (do note this is a 72ppi and is not good for printing, if you'd like the 144ppi version drop me a line)

[Kael Russell]

Thanks. My friend Dustin will be coming also.

[miKe M]

still looking for an email from chris with the poster so i can get it printed tonight...

martin- did he send you a higher res pic that i can use to print out?

stoked for the race for sure. it will be memorable as it will be the first annual outlaw series race here in PC!!!!


also: i have better directions from Salt Lake. just before you make the last right hand turn on SR-224, get in the left hand land and turn onto meadows drive. you will just stay on this road as it crests the hill, and you end up coming at the hill from the top end rather than the bottom. it's a little less confusing if you are coming from salt lake anyway.


see you guys tomorow night! can't wait to get that foam core from martin set up tomorrow!

[Martin Drayton]

Hi Kael,
Cool that you are coming!
To get to the venue...
Come off the I-80 at Kimball Jct. and take the SR-224 to Park City. Turn right as you come into PC onto Kearns Blvd. Take a right onto Monitor Drive.
You will come toa T-junction after crossing one juction. In front of you is the Raquet Club, turn right onto Little Kate. Turn left onto Lucky John Drive and follow it until it turns into Meadows Drive.
Go down Meadows Drive, pass the Golf Club on your left and continue up the hill as the road bends. At the top of the hill you will find a Realtor sign on you right and a wooden hut. Take that right turn and you will find us on the 2 hills down there. Come to the top of the left hand road and park in the cul-de-sac. If you get lost, call me on 435-513-1609.

Looking forward to meeting you!

Gib, awesome that you are coming from so far!

[Kael Russell]

Hi guys, can somebody PM me directions to the hill?

[Billy Bordy]

89 cones of Love tonight? I am home lets sk8 I also have that CD burnrd with the Vids!

[trish erickson]

WOW,

I can't believe all of the sponsers and people sending stuff for our race. THANK YOU! The skate community rocks!

To the racers;

I will bring a cooler full of the basics like mayo, mustard, ect. I even have paper plates and cook stuff. Maybe a few can pitch in and bring bags of chips and I was thinking of doing a dutch-oven bake beans thing....thats if you all want some (good ole' Utah cookin'). I thing bringing your own drinks is a good thing too. Let me know if there is anything else you might want. See ya thursday.

Trish
proud member of the UPC's and a
proud charter member of the DHB"S

[Martin Drayton]

I am working Thursday at the mountain til 6:30pm, but will try to get out early so we can chat about Sunday...

ps.Just heard from Tracker, they are sending trucks and TSG helmets to go in our prize pool! And a package has just left RoeRacing, bound for UPC! A big thank you guys!

[trish erickson]

Can't wait to race on Sunday! I think we should split the cost of the shipping as well as for the posters. Thats the fair way to do it. As far as the bbq thing, Greg and I have a gas grill we could bring and a small one that uses charcoal. we will bring those and bringing your own meat is a great chioce. IS everybody planning on a Thursday session? Maybe we can decide then?

[Martin Drayton]

Ok, last minute stuff to sort out....
Let me know if this sounds OK...

Start time: 10am

1st event: Giant Slalom
2nd event: Hybrid
3rd event: Tight Slalom

Each competitor gets 3 timed runs, best run to count. The 3 times are totalled to decide final positions. If you DQ in any event (fail to register a time), you will be given the joint slowest time for that event.

The courses will be makeable for all levels, but set so that you can still go as fast as you want. Bring as many people as you want, whatever level. EVERYONE WILL WALK AWAY WITH A PRIZE OF SOME KIND DUE TO THE GENEROSITY OF OUR SPONSORS!
We will have lots of different categories, ie.Best Newbie, fastest female etc.and of course...best wipeout (no Billy, it doesn't count if you did it 3 weeks ago!)

The only expenses we will be accruing will be postage on the Concrete Wave stuff, do we just split the cost?
Also if Chris can get posters done, we all need to split his costs.

Chris, as for contact info on the poster, to avoid anyone shutting us down don't put the location. Can you put my other e-mail address on it: emdee.sk8r4life@gmail.com and the phone number of the shop 435-649-8092. Oh, and if possible can you put Hardbooter.com on it to keep Bordy quiet ...

Bearing in mind that some of our number are veggies, should we just bring our own meat?
Has anyone got a BBQ that they can bring? If not the post-race festivities will have to take place in either City Park or the Rail Trail, where there are communal BBQ's that we need coals for....What do you think?

[trish erickson]

Cool poster! I think we should all get one for a souviner? Chris, you did a great job.

Hey Billy, are ya home this afternoon? I want to swing by and maybe get a cd of your crash and did you say you had a foot block too? And of course run some cones. I am taking Carly for a hike up soldier hollow burt we won't be long.

[Chris Peddecord]

What about me... Can hardbooter.com get some love please we are bringing swag.... plus I own the joint....

Done!

[Billy Bordy]

Thank You!!!!

[Chris Peddecord]

No prob, I'll send a low- and high-resolution version over to your e-mail. The only thing I wasn't sure about adding was contact info for the event. Heh, I should put the board that took you the podium in the guys hand, probably more appropriate!

[Martin Drayton]

I am speechless...Best skate comp poster I have ever seen!
As far as sponsors go, I'm still waiting to hear from Sector 9 and PCMR (Park City Mountain Resort).
If you send a low-quality version to me, I will send it to the sponsors on-board already and to those in the wings as a final persuader!
Great work Chris!

[Chris Peddecord]

Tell me if I missed a sponsor, presenter, etc. This is a low quality version, if you'd like some uncompressed, just let me know.

[Bob Harper]

Hey Martin
I now have two skate shops from Logan kicking down shwag for the race.
later Bob

[Chris Peddecord]

Just opened a bumper box of product from Khiro that will ensure that EVERYONE goes home with some product!
Gary Fluitt and Jim Weatherwax of Asphalt Playground fame have sent us a beautifully upgraded 8mm axled Tracker Racetrack-S...Mmmmm!
I have spoken to the Park Record and a photgrapher will be coming to the event.

Also I am donating all my prizes from the Morro Bay World Champs (except my helmet trophy!).

Any thoughts on the BBQ? Who wants to organise T-shirts?

Mmmmmm, BBQ... I'm almost vegetarian and Ally, my girlfriend, is full on vegetarian (unless the meat is free range poultry). To whomever brings the actual grill upon which to cook, would it be too much to ask if you could bring a second set of utensils? Me and Ally will likely bring up some gardenburgers, is anybody else interested?

[Martin Drayton]

Just opened a bumper box of product from Khiro that will ensure that EVERYONE goes home with some product!
Gary Fluitt and Jim Weatherwax of Asphalt Playground fame have sent us a beautifully upgraded 8mm axled Tracker Racetrack-S...Mmmmm!
I have spoken to the Park Record and a photgrapher will be coming to the event.

Also I am donating all my prizes from the Morro Bay World Champs (except my helmet trophy!).

Any thoughts on the BBQ? Who wants to organise T-shirts?

[trish erickson]

oh percocet, oh percocet! how lovely are we!

[Billy Bordy]

Mike your like a groupie!

BLR this BLR that.

!st prize one pair of BLR thong panties (worn twice by olsOn on race day)

mmm smells like victory....

O-h maybe thats the pain meds talking.....

UPC What can cones do for you.....

UPC What can Slalom do for you......

UPC life one cone at a time...

UPC the other other skate crew..

UPC home of world tight Sl Champ Martin (i go faster when Fartin) Drayton!....

UPC taking names and breaking shoulders since 05

UPC let us handle your package.......

UPC going down around town....

UPC we smell nice.......

UPC this thread is going down hill one Billy at a time.

Wheres Karr I am the original Down Hill Billy!

UPC OUT

[miKe M]

whats the latest on this? are we still down? what do we need to do?

i got the timing fixed this week...

special project is underway...

did we ever decide on a logo? i think it would be bitchin to get some shirts made.


martin- did you hit up hackett and olsen for schwag? it would be cool to have BLR shirts and DVD's for prizes....

[Martin Drayton]

Sorry Trish,
Just my two beauties came... Hopefully yours will arrive at the shop soon. Wait til I tell you why they have been so busy...
But come skate somewhere Sunday and you can have a go on the Torsion Core verion of that shape combining Billy's and my shape...ITS GORGEOUS!!!!

[Billy Bordy]

Yes, but what will the rocket board class be like?

http://media.putfile.com/rocketskateboard

Maybe cut and copy

[trish erickson]

Hey Martin,

Greg just called me and mentioned that you may get that board today. Can you or would you hold it if you do? I work tommarow but I can maybe catch ya when you get back from Morro? Troy is sending a splifire and some wheels for me, So I want that board. Autogragh it for me too ok? I think it will be the Winning board to beat at the outlaw race! LOL. Thanks so much and think fast thoughts!

Trish

[trish erickson]

Hey Troy,


Minus the 16 bucks for a car. USE MINE! Cool if you really do come out.

Hey UPC's!

It sooo killed me not to be at the hill last night. I need a fix soon. Havn't been on a board in 2 weeks.......ugh! Can't believe how this is coming together. Martin, Please let me know if there is anything I can do. After this weekend things should slow down for me. In the meantime, be safe with the travels to Morro and rock on! We will be watching.

If anyone is planning on riding in Park city next thursday, post it. I have thursday off this week. Maybe we can set a course and be with Martin in spirit! LOL.

PS. Troy, I sent the money so look for it soon.

Trish

[Bob Harper]

Hey UPC Dudes
Can't wait till 10 2 05 this sound like lots of fun. I wanted to come down with Kevin tonight but the Dirt Factory calls. It sounds like you guys are getting everything orginized quite well. if there is any thing Kevin or I can do to help let us know.
I'm going to try and find the time to build one of my hand built decks and i will donate it for a prize. I also havea conection to a big canopy. This sounds to fun, I haven't been in an orginized race since 78.

Billy very sorry to here about the shoulder. I don't know whats worse the break,or those danm braces. Heal quick I want another session with ya before the snow falls.


See yal next week.
Bob the spudland cone wiggler

[Martin Drayton]

Yeah Troy! You know you want to....

Asphalt Playground
and SK8 Kings have signed on too!

[Troy Smart]

NYC to SLC $222.
16 bucks a day for a car.
My boys (well one of them anyway) getting to see Grandma, again, Aunts/Uncles and cousins for the first time and the place I grew up. $?
And, oh yea.... a little skating thrown in.

Hmmmmm.....

[Martin Drayton]

Its on....Sunday 2nd October, time to be announced. The Sponsors are really getting behind us, its so cool! I have had e-mails from the following companies so far who are happy to send us product:

RoeRacing
Khiro
Concrete Wave
North Carolina Longboarders

We just need a meat sponsor for the BBQ
What I'm suggesting, if its cool with everyone, is to have a GS, a Hybrid and a TS. 3 runs with your fastest to count. It will mean no "sleep-in" Sunday morning!
The times will be totalled to decide final placings and Overall winners. If we have enough prizes we might have seperate winners for each event.
We will also have special category winners too...ie. Most improved, best Junior etc. All suggestions welcome!
Don't you just love the Slalom Community!!!

[miKe M]

chris-

i'm assuming you are the same chris that has been showing up on thursdays. it would be great to carpool. you've got my number...
somebody help me be responsible (not always the case in the skateboarding community) and give me a time so i can work it out at work.

l8rs...

[Chris Peddecord]

skating this thursday- martin, i've got car troubles, or more exactly things to get fixed on my car so i can sell it asap. it's getting worse and i need to get rid of it. so, i might not have a car this thursday to get up there early. i can take a work truck and be there for the evening, but earlier than that might be a problem.

Mike, I'm planning to get up the hill rather early next thursday if you want to carpool.

[miKe M]

billy- oh no! collar bones suck!

race day-

yes, the 2nd of october works for me. it'd be nice to get all three races in with a BBQ after. i'll get timing all set up this week so it works. i've got a photographer too, if i haven't already said that before. as far as the outlaw thing goes, lets do it full on outlaw style. location to be announced and all that. we could say sign up by calling a number, and telling them where it is so it is not advertised. the boys down in new mexico were really good at that becuase all their ditch races are outlaw and i think i learned a thing or two about keeping it on the down low and keeping those that need to know informed. we should probably make out a map to email people that haven't been before. it can be done without putting the location on the flyers! and, yes i think flyers would be a great thing to get out there. i've got some places down here in SLC that we need to put them up at...

logo- i've got a buddy that has a print shop that will do shirts and posters for cheap, if not for free to get his name out there. he does a really good job. personally, i am more inclined towards the whole skulls and death and bones type logos and being a bad ass, even though i'm not that badass. it's just nice to have a hard core image to fall behind. i've got another really good buddy that is a kickin local artist. he could work on this for us, for the price of some equipment. he has really been liking my slalom boards and want's me to help set up an old metal skate he has with trucks and wheels. perhaps he could do something for us in return for schwag to set up his deck. his website is www.swinj.com so let me know if that's something you guys want. he'd be real interested to do something with us and it's make our deal look that much cooler. he has done a lot of stuff for SLUG mag, so totally professional... i'll run it by him. i do like the whole UPS/UPC thing though, it just needs some skate touch to it.

skating this thursday- martin, i've got car troubles, or more exactly things to get fixed on my car so i can sell it asap. it's getting worse and i need to get rid of it. so, i might not have a car this thursday to get up there early. i can take a work truck and be there for the evening, but earlier than that might be a problem. i can't really think of any place to skate here during the day other than some road up emigration canyon that might not be too busy. it's an area very similar to what we have been training on. but, you might have to come get me, and we'd be down here and not up in PC. i'll keep you posted. if billy is going to help you out anyway, perhaps i can just try to get up there in time...


way to go on the decks martin!


miKe