EttSexEtt are producing hand made glassfibre slalomboards in Stockholm.
Three standard modells:
Hankster: 70x16,5 cm
Macster: 76x18,7 cm
Månster: 82x20 cm
<img src="http://www.ettsexett.com/bilder/boardlineupT.jpg" target="ettsexett">
<a href= "http://www.ettsexett.com/EN">www.EttSexEtt.com</a>
Slalomboards from Sweden
Moderator: Marion Karr
-
Måns Haegert
- Posts: 14
- Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:00 am
- Location: Sweden
- Contact:
-
Adam Trahan
- Phoenix, AZ, USA
- Posts: 795
- Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:00 am
-
Matthew Wilson
- Posts: 241
- Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2002 2:00 am
- Location: Lone Tree, CO
- Contact:
I had a question about European slalomboards. From what I hear, the Europeans run cones much tighter than we have a tendancy to run here in the US. However, many of our top riders here in the US spend a lot of time trying to trim down their wheelbases. The average tight slalom board here has a wheelbase of 19" (48.26 cm) and shorter.
Most of the slalom boards that I have seen that are made in Europe, though comparable in length (for example, the short board made by ettsexett is a mere 70 cm or 28" in length, but it has a wheelbase of 24.6" or 61.5 cm. That wheelbase is as large as many folks in the US use to run big GS courses.
So, what is the deal? What is wheelbase actually based on? Is wheelbase proportional to speed in anyway? Or is this really just a preference thing?
Most of the slalom boards that I have seen that are made in Europe, though comparable in length (for example, the short board made by ettsexett is a mere 70 cm or 28" in length, but it has a wheelbase of 24.6" or 61.5 cm. That wheelbase is as large as many folks in the US use to run big GS courses.
So, what is the deal? What is wheelbase actually based on? Is wheelbase proportional to speed in anyway? Or is this really just a preference thing?
slalom is good
-
Marcus Seyffarth
- Posts: 607
- Joined: Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:00 am
- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
- Contact:
Hi!
I can only tell you how we do it at our Wednesdays Races, and what I've heard the courses have a shorter cone distance in the UK. But anyway... We use a cone distance of approx 6-8 feet in our courses (shorter at the start, but once in a while there is a 'tight gate' thrown in later in the course as well).
I myself ride the EttSexEtt MacSter board, that has a wheelbase of 67cm when there is no weigth on it. Once I stand on it the wheelbase increases to 70cm I guess (hard to measure and differs depending on the lunch menu
). This board works just fine for this kind of course.
I have also tried the NCDSA 'Cyber challange' that has 25 6ft spaced cones and that was about as tight i could go with this board and its default setup.
I can only tell you how we do it at our Wednesdays Races, and what I've heard the courses have a shorter cone distance in the UK. But anyway... We use a cone distance of approx 6-8 feet in our courses (shorter at the start, but once in a while there is a 'tight gate' thrown in later in the course as well).
I myself ride the EttSexEtt MacSter board, that has a wheelbase of 67cm when there is no weigth on it. Once I stand on it the wheelbase increases to 70cm I guess (hard to measure and differs depending on the lunch menu
). This board works just fine for this kind of course. I have also tried the NCDSA 'Cyber challange' that has 25 6ft spaced cones and that was about as tight i could go with this board and its default setup.
-
Jani Soderhall
- ISSA President 2011-2024
- Posts: 4634
- Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:00 am
- Location: Sweden, lives in France
- Contact:
Remember that there are Europeans and Europeans. Actually there are >20 different slalom countries in Europe and almost as many different styles. And there are the "old" Europeans and there are the more recent Europeans. So it's not easy to come up with an answer to your question.
I don't know much about length of boards, but Europeans in the 80's and 90's used to race quite tight courses. For example a straight course would have 5.5 of my feet between two cones. I think that makes it something like 1.80m cone center to center. (sorry to be inprecise). England and Russia used to do courses 4ft or even 3ft apart (but the Russians had shorter boards).Martin Sweeney the king of UK 4ft slalom also had a very short board with extremely loose trucks.
The ISSA rules (see the ISSA forum) could give you an idea of cone distances, but remember that every event, every course was different. Unfortunately courses were almost never recorded, so it is not easy for us to compare with todays courses.
As far as I know the guys participating in the Wednesday Race in Stockholm this year have been racing much wider courses, as have the Swiss, and some of the races in France, have been more longboard than shortboard slalom.
Ideally we should find an intermediate so that we can all race together.
I don't know much about length of boards, but Europeans in the 80's and 90's used to race quite tight courses. For example a straight course would have 5.5 of my feet between two cones. I think that makes it something like 1.80m cone center to center. (sorry to be inprecise). England and Russia used to do courses 4ft or even 3ft apart (but the Russians had shorter boards).Martin Sweeney the king of UK 4ft slalom also had a very short board with extremely loose trucks.
The ISSA rules (see the ISSA forum) could give you an idea of cone distances, but remember that every event, every course was different. Unfortunately courses were almost never recorded, so it is not easy for us to compare with todays courses.
As far as I know the guys participating in the Wednesday Race in Stockholm this year have been racing much wider courses, as have the Swiss, and some of the races in France, have been more longboard than shortboard slalom.
Ideally we should find an intermediate so that we can all race together.
-
Etienne de Bary
- Etienne
- Posts: 400
- Joined: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:00 am
- Contact:
every country has a different story:
Swiss never stopped slaloming, but they do very hybrid races, they ride narrow 70cm to more than 1m boards with average Krypto wheels
Here in Paris we start from zero in a group of DH riders, so a board that is less than 70cm seems really weird, like riding a lunch plate, most riders get thru the cones with their 120cm Supaflex, when there is cones,
the concept of quiver is exotic here, most riders have one skate at once
Swiss never stopped slaloming, but they do very hybrid races, they ride narrow 70cm to more than 1m boards with average Krypto wheels
Here in Paris we start from zero in a group of DH riders, so a board that is less than 70cm seems really weird, like riding a lunch plate, most riders get thru the cones with their 120cm Supaflex, when there is cones,
the concept of quiver is exotic here, most riders have one skate at once