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Wait! Weight!

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:22 pm
by Michael Stride
Whats the LIGHTEST slalom board commercially available. And how much does it weigh?

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:40 pm
by Erik Basil
I'll bet it weighs less than that lead-fiber tank you had in California, Michael. Man, I hurt my wrist just trying to heft that thing off the terra! Was that a depleted uranium center ply? (It did kinda "shimmer" from a distance, and I appreciate you letting my cook my lunch by setting the bag on your board.)

I recently held one of those thin, Fibreflex slalom re-pops (Marvin, who was at Pump Station, rides it) and will nominate that as the lightest deck I've held without trucks on it. It's pretty light, but I didn't put it on a postage scale... It's also really small, of course.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:31 pm
by Patrick Allan
The lightest slalom board I've ever seen was one of Vincent's Pavels... But I think wefunk has also been making some really light boards, but I've never ridden any...

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:56 pm
by Mike Cividino
lightest board I have is my all glass and foam Pavel GS. An all glass TS stick would be a feather.

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:32 pm
by Michael Stride
Lightest yet, out of the mould this morning. carbon, Concave Camber, kick. Inserts for bolts. British! Mine.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:28 pm
by Donald Campbell
lightes out of the mold mix of wood and glass 740g G.O.G. customer:yoyo schultz
beat this

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:41 pm
by Michael Stride
Sorry Donald, the second prototype was 4 inches longer...and lighter than YoYos.

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:00 pm
by Donald Campbell
on an average deck with average materials 740g is pretty light (the board has to last a few seasons also).
anything lighter than that is absolutely possible (also for me), but it requires more carbon, carbon is expensive and thus adding to the cost of the board. so much for that.
we have a german saying which goes: "they all cook with water".

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:43 pm
by Michael Stride
The deck construction is VERY strong. It was used in anger at Pump Station in San Diego, and stood on by Ritchie Carrasco without wheels to test for breking point...it didnt break.

Yup, Carbon aint cheap, luckily the manufacturer uses carbon in most of the stuff they make, and that has to be tested to conform to EU regulations for destruction. So they know their stuff.

No plans for leopard skins so your lovely Pavels can sleep well!

Its been fun to be involved with this project, they have made boards for a few years, but only now feel confident they have all the pieces in place, making decks is not easy. Feedback has been that these havethe best finish yet seen on a high end deck.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:59 am
by YOYO SHULTZ
Michael Stride wrote:Sorry Donald, the second prototype was 4 inches longer...and lighter than YoYos.
A few ounces more or less don't matter to me. I should loose some weight to compensate...it's cheaper than the carbon fiber substitute.

The GOG deck Donald made for me is VERY light and responsive. So far I have had only two test sessions due to BAD rainy weather here, but it rides great.
I just have to get more back into Slalom after the loonnng winter.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:43 am
by Chris Eggers
Pavel custom Chris Eggers rig weighs 620 Grams

Not made for Strides, but could make a great weapon against if one dares to come out of the bushes this hunting season, they have gotten rare lately.....I will be ready

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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:50 am
by Michael Stride
Sure, perhaps many of us need to lose weight....I just feel if the board is as light as can be, but retains robustness, and that unquantifiable 'feel' then that has to be good. Particularly in a push start.

I'm sure Donalds Pavels have the 'feel'. And an all out competition for lightness is useless without that 'feel'.

The Wefunks/Airflows/Pavels/Roes/Pocket Pistols are fantastic boards....but I'm proud that a UK company can make a contender that has been developed properly, looks good, and most importantly WORKS.

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:03 pm
by Michael Stride
protoype 3
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:29 pm
by YOYO SHULTZ
Looks like a carbon G&S Teamrider shape to me.....some 30 years later.

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:39 pm
by Michael Stride
Major modern differences are:
15 degree kick stomp rear.
Drilling on the tail (vertically drilled for great truck alignmnent). Allowing for optimum grip and rear foot placement.
Stiffer torsionnally.
Lighter by far.
Integrated risers in the bottom surface, shaped for ridgidity and strength where needed
Inserts where bolts go, allowing for countersunk bolts so flat grip surface.
Concave.

Apart from that, if it looks a s nice as a fibreflex I'll take that as a complimnent Yoyo!

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:02 pm
by YOYO SHULTZ
Michael, I meant it as a compliment.
I saw your deck to other week and it's a piece of art.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:24 pm
by alavoine jean paul
Michael your board looks really light, but Chris's board has another advantage: it appears to be undetectable by radar...

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:43 pm
by Erik Basil
Michael Stride wrote:Major modern differences are:
15 degree kick stomp rear.
Drilling on the tail (vertically drilled for great truck alignmnent).
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Integrated risers in the bottom surface, shaped for ridgidity and strength where needed
Inserts where bolts go, allowing for countersunk bolts so flat grip surface.
Concave.
Wow. All that together makes for an uber-board, and if it's a light as the lead-fiber board I was joshing about...incredible! What does a unit like that retail for, though?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 8:34 pm
by Michael Stride
Gecko now have their own thread on this forum.Cost is 90 poundsfor a standard deck, 125 for a custom shape. They are cranking them out for customers right now.
I love em.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:16 pm
by Eric Brassard
Since 1 year ago i began to make a foam core , after many prototypes, i realyse a very special board. Look at this

32 in X 8 1/4in

19.5 wheelbase

very stiff

Good concave

450 gr.

X-Ray tested ( no defect)

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Eric Brassard

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:55 am
by Luke Melo
10 grams:

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i got it complete for $2. beat that ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:01 pm
by Ramón Königshausen
Genau, geile Siech! - Good one ;-)

rmn