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by Hans Koraeus » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:16 am
Well here we go again. Let's have a look here from January 2003 for some background.
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB ... .php?t=469
Or just read this...
There are 5 slalom disciplines:
Super Tight Slalom
Tight Slalom
Hybrid Slalom
Giant Slalom
Super Giant Slalom
They can be run
straight (cones in a straight line) or
special (cones not in a straight line).
They can be run
single lane or
dual lane.
I.e.
We can have a...
Single lane - Straight - Tight Slalom
Single lane - Special - Tight Slalom
Dual lane - Straight - Tight Slalom
Dual lane - Special - Tight Slalom
a.s.o
These are the theoretical names if you want to be correct.
Then to the "define tight slalom" question. This was the proposal Jan 2003. I have had it in my head many times and referred to it many times and I think it works quite well.
Maybe this is the time to get it into the rules once and for all because these questions come up and get forgotten over and over again. Even for ISSA itself it seems...
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by Jonathan Harms » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:41 pm
Funny, I read through the whole Word document and jotted down my thoughts as I did so. But I only referred to Jadranko's (incomplete) quoted version when I made my first post. My apologies.
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by Pat Chewning » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:06 pm
Jonathan wrote:Jadranko wrote:Cone Spacing Limits of 3.0m are to much. There is a Hybrid Slalom for that.
There should be a limit of 2.0m not more.
I agree with the intent of Jadranko's statement. But on a very steep course (example: 2007 Worlds), 2 meters might be too tight. (I doubt that many of the pro racers, even the TS specialists, would have been able to make 2-meter cones on that hill.) So unless we also specify a limit for the steepness of the hill, I disagree with changing the 3-meter limit.
(If objections to the 3-meter limit persist, maybe there could also be a SUGGESTED cone spacing, or perhaps an explanatory note that refers to a preferred rate of cones per second?)
There is an incomplete quote of this section. There are suggested limits within the allowed max/min limits:
9.3. Slalom: Tight (ST)
· Course Intent: Test the racer’s ability to turn very quickly, with occasional rythym interruptions and offsets away from the fall line. Course is primarily down the fall line of the racing surface. Turns are all short radius.
· May be run on flat or sloped surfaces.
· Cone Spacing Limits: 1.4m to 3.0m
· Cone Spacing Suggestion: 1.5m to 2.5m
· Course Length: 25 to 100 cones. (Suggestion: 50 cones)
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by Jadranko Radovanovic » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:48 pm
The limit to the 2m, will give you the limit of the hill.
The limit will be somthing like the trocadero in Paris.
Otherwise there will never be a real "tigth" Slalom from the beginning to the end.
The organizer should think about, on which hill he is doing a "Parallel" or a "Tight"
The point from my side is to have significant diffrent disziplines.
The scala can look like this:
Tight/Parallel______________Hybrid_____________Giant_______Super Giant
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by Jonathan Harms » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:41 pm
Jadranko Radovanovic wrote:Cone Spacing Limits of 3.0m are to much. There is a Hybrid Slalom for that.
There should be a limit of 2.0m not more.
I agree with the intent of Jadranko's statement. But on a very steep course (example: 2007 Worlds), 2 meters might be too tight. (I doubt that many of the pro racers, even the TS specialists, would have been able to make 2-meter cones on that hill.) So unless we also specify a limit for the steepness of the hill, I disagree with changing the 3-meter limit.
(If objections to the 3-meter limit persist, maybe there could also be a SUGGESTED cone spacing, or perhaps an explanatory note that refers to a preferred rate of cones per second?)
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by Jadranko Radovanovic » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:14 am
9.2. Slalom: Parallel (SP)
· May be run on flat or sloped surfaces.
· Cone Spacing Limits: 1.0m to 3.0m
· Course Length: 25 to 100 cones. (Suggestion: 50 cones)
9.3. Slalom: Tight (ST)
· May be run on flat or sloped surfaces.
· Cone Spacing Limits: 1.4m to 3.0m
· Course Length: 25 to 100 cones. (Suggestion: 50 cones)
Cone Spacing Limits of 3.0m are to much. There is a Hybrid Slalom for that.
There should be a limit of 2.0m not more.
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by Pat Chewning » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:12 am
Put comments on Section 9 here.
You may view the draft rules here in 3 forms:
As a WORD document:
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... -DRAFT.doc
As a PDF document:
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... FT-0_2.pdf
As a Webpage:
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... -DRAFT.htm
Proposed voting for this section:
Vote Question #9.1 (Section 9, 1st Vote)
For the Slalom Parallel discipline (SP), what should be the requirement for cone spacing?
A) Each cone spacing within a limit: 1.0m to 3.0m. Suggested: 1.5m to 2.0m
B) Each cone spacing within a limit: 1.0m to 2.0m
C) Average cone distance of 15 to 20 cones per 30m (average spacing 1.5m to 2.0m)
Vote Question #9.2 (Section 9, 2nd Vote)
For the Slalom Tight discipline (ST), what should be the requirement for cone spacing?
A) Each cone spacing within a limit: 1.4m to 3.0m. Suggested: 1.5m to 2.5m
B) Each cone spacing within a limit: 1.0m to 2.0m
C) Average cone distance of 15 to 20 cones per 30m (average spacing 1.5m to 2.0m)
Vote Question #9.3 (Section 9, 3rd Vote)
For the Slalom Hybrid discipline (SH), what should be the requirement for cone spacing?
A) Each cone spacing within a limit: 1.5m to 4.5m. Suggested: 2.0m to 3.0m
B) Average cone distance of 7 to 15 cones per 30m (average spacing 2.0m to 4.3m)
Vote Question #9.4 (Section 9, 4th Vote)
For the Giant Slalom discipline (GS), what should be the requirement for cone spacing?
A) Each cone spacing within a limit: 2.0m to 10m. Suggested: 3.0m to 5.0m
B) Average distance 3 to 15 cones per 30m (average spacing 2.0m to 10m) – 1st 30m of course.
Average distance 3 to 10 cones per 30m (average spacing 3.0m to 10m) – remainder of course.
Cone offset minimum: 10%. (Offset of middle cone from line to preceeding and succeeding cones).
Vote Question #9.5 (Section 9, 5th Vote)
What should be required for ensuring that the course setting is fair, challenging, and contemporary?
A) A group of 3 people are assigned to set the course. (2 racers drawn from 2 nations, plus one person assigned by the race organizer.)
B) A group of 3 people are assigned to set the course. (2 racers from the top 10 racers at the event [ISSA points], plus one person assigned by the race organizer.)
C) The race organizer is responsible for setting the course. The method used shall be clearly stated in the race sanction application. (Who will set the course, description of course, when will course be set, etc.)
D) ISSA will provide a course setter from an approved list of personnel.
Voting starts Nov 15th, so if this proposed voting does not adequately and fairly capture your suggested changes -- let me know ASAP.
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