New Virage 'Vite' front quick turning truck

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Post by Sam Gordon » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:25 pm

Pelle's alive!!!

A few things need developing, but that is all part of the testing process. For example, the baseplate has a super wedge on it that is comparable to a 12/15 degree angled riser. Whilst this might suit the LDP crowd, it might be too fast turning for a slalom truck where progression and rebound are at least as important as is a rapid change of direction. Too steep and the truck turns very quickly, but feels a little bit 'all or nothing;' 'on or off' if you will.

This pitching can, in extreme cases, lead to the skater stalling the truck and being hurled over the front of the board. It is far better to reduce the wedge angle a little, have a slower yet more progressive turn, with fine tuning coming from the rider's preference.

Don't forget that Virage offers fine tune risers in 3 and 5 degrees for this to be possible.

Given that the truck uses angles comparable to that of a Bennett or similar, the slalom truck might end by having a base plate angle closer to 8 or 9 degrees. We also have to check the ride height of the baseplate so that is is both as low as posssible whilst allowing wheel clearance at full turn angle.

And styling.

Winter fun!

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mickael...

Post by Pelle Gustafsson » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:41 pm

or schuld i say santa? nice that the truck making going forward,the world need it,and i love it...

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Post by Michael Stride » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:38 pm

Thanks Pelle...dont worry as a Team Member you will get a set as soon as we make the production version.

Talking of which Sams photo clearly shows the baseplate, the production version has more curves there to match the hanger and Bennett too. Also the hanger will look a little 'softer' with Vite branding. Sam is adding riser (and playing with wedging) so we can decide how much height to add to suit most slalomers to reduce riser use.

We also have a new footblock, the Virage 'Vice' (named by Rob Ashbury in moment of genius 'pointing percy at the prorcelain' )last night at the pub, to complement the trucks. Being tested and developed as I type.
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wow

Post by Pelle Gustafsson » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:19 pm

looks wow!!! nice piece of metal!

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Post by Sam Gordon » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:27 pm

Of course you can, Pelle.

Here it is looking a li'l bit saucy:


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Tighten your bolts in its deep Englissch Channels.

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Post by Steve Pederson » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:21 am

:-)
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;)

Post by Pelle Gustafsson » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:08 pm

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!! can I f#@k it? lol

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Post by Donald Campbell » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:52 pm

how about mentioning the zip code you cornhead?
hahahahahaha

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:06 pm

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Post by Jonathan Harms » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:42 pm

Michael Stride wrote:Mr Harms, new day, fresh ideas!
I'm loving your idea of calling the nut feature 'an English Channel'. Id like to use that if I may.

And if and when someone copies it we can all refer to it as an English Channel. Cool!
Michael, thank you for asking, and of course you may use that name. Glad you like it!





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I don't want to appear greedy, so I think three sets ought to be enough

(to start with)...

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Post by Michael Stride » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:26 am

Mr Harms, new day, fresh ideas!
I'm loving your idea of calling the nut feature 'an English Channel'. Id like to use that if I may.

And if and when someone copies it we can all refer to it as an English Channel. Cool!

I had a few requests for close ups of the hanger, remember its being fettled, but close:

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Post by Pat Chewning » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:12 am

Wow! A truck with a built in nut sack!

Holds the nuts in place -- very nice.

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Post by Michael Stride » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:04 pm

do you have an idea of the retail price?
Oh, I thought Id make one. Send it to the Czech Republic and buy them from there myself. ;-)
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Post by Michael Stride » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:00 pm

Correct, sorry very fatigay!

(joke)

Thanks!
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Post by Miguel Marco » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:51 pm

Michael Stride wrote:Le Manche?
La Manche... ;)

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Post by Rob Ashby » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:47 pm

Looking good Michael - I look forward to seeing them up close and personal!

Digging the groove man!

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Post by Julien RICHARD » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:36 pm

do you have an idea of the retail price?

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Post by Michael Stride » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:55 pm

Le Manche? (the 'sleeve') what the French call the Channel.

How about the 'Rad Pitt'???

Its amazing how well that channel really allows for a tight and secure fit. I know its a small improvement but like in Formula 1 every little bit helps....

We had to have a thicker baseplate there to utilise a simpler form of machining involving less processes.
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Post by Jonathan Harms » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:41 pm

Love the "trough" idea, Michael--brilliantly simple. But the word "trough" is just screaming for a bit of Bennett-style or Chaput-style trademarking, branding or sexing up. Love groove? Boss Trough? Oooh, I've got it--the English Channel! :-)

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Post by Michael Stride » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:21 pm

More pics , we have a few little tweaks and fettling to do (mainly cosmetic to thge baseplate to help is visually match the hanger better, and a small mod to the hanger)...hopefully ready to take orders next week.

The little 'trough' or channel for the mounting nuts works really well. And allows for a good tight setup. In practice the nut is easily held in place by a finger and doing up the bolt with just a hex key or a phillips head was super easy.
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Post by Michael Stride » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:05 pm

Thanks for your interest, the 3d renderings don't quite show how gullwing the hangers are, nor the bushing seat.

These might help a little? not finals, but not far off.

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Post by Jonathan Harms » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:22 pm

Wow, more cutting-edge stuff from Michael.

I realize it's just a drawing, but how close will the kingpin be to the ground? That first drawing with the pink bushing makes it looks like it would protrude pretty far beyond the hanger and axles.

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Post by Michael Stride » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:54 pm

Update...now in the machine,

top two pics are pretty much the final stage of hangers (minus the spherical) and a sneak at one of the prototype composite baseplate I'm testing.Very lightweight.

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New Virage 'Vite' front quick turning truck

Post by Michael Stride » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:34 pm

Virage 'Vite'...(pronounced 'veet') The button has been pressed...Quick turning Bennett hanger compatible baseplate, sold singly, also mating to two new hanger width with the unique Virage axle system. Baseplate incorporates angle and height meaning that risers will be minimised, just like the Virage Slalom and Virage LDPs. Incorporates a spherical bearing in the hanger, and a machined conventional pivot fitting a small Khiro cup. This is designed to be a front tight slalom truck and also a front LDP truck in a wider width.

Available soon.....along with a totally unique doobery that we wont reveal until its for sale!

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