How Long Before COMPLETES With One Manufacturer's Name?

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How Long Before COMPLETES With One Manufacturer's Name?

Post by Wesley Tucker » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:38 pm

OK.

Pavel is making boards and trucks.
Same for 161
And Virage
PPS is making boards and wheels.
Seismic is making wheels and trucks. (Dan has boards but doesn't market a slalom board.)

How long before we see Brand X Slalom Completes?

Who's going to be the first to do all three?

(We'll allow for bushings and bearings to STILL be made by someone someone else.
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Post by Joe Iacovelli » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:35 pm

Jason Mitchell PPS Board, Jason Mitchell PPS Wheels, Jason Mitchell GOG trucks, Jason Mitchell Nitro Bearings.

Racer X wins!

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:38 pm

Joe Iacovelli wrote:Jason Mitchell PPS Board, Jason Mitchell PPS Wheels, Jason Mitchell GOG trucks, Jason Mitchell Nitro Bearings.

Racer X wins!
Board by PPS, trucks by GOG.

Nope. No cigar.

Hard to call it a complete with components coming from two manufacturers on two continents.
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Post by Marcus Seyffarth » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:55 pm

Donald have already announced the gogonauts as their new wheel that was due to this season so I guess gog/pavel win as soon as they put their money where the mouth is (is that how you say it?)

161 won't start making wheels until abec11 stop shipping to sweden, we are however in the making of some fine bushings...

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Post by Ramón Königshausen » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:12 pm

Airflow has it!

We have

Bearings
Boards
Trucks
Wheels


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Post by Jani Soderhall » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:13 pm

But this is still very cool. It's most likely the first time a slalom skater has a complete setup of equipment in his name, or?

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:33 pm

And Airflow is a winner.

Ramon, how many folks are racing on that 68mm wheel? (I assume that's the slalom option?)
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Post by Joe Iacovelli » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:46 pm

Turner had completes under Howard Gordon, with Turner bearings even.

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Post by Ramón Königshausen » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:01 pm

Wesley Tucker wrote:And Airflow is a winner.

Ramon, how many folks are racing on that 68mm wheel? (I assume that's the slalom option?)
Uhm....I don't know...nobody said it had to be a racing wheel.....but we have our own bearings!

And I'm making prototypes, does that count?

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:01 pm

Joe Iacovelli wrote:Turner had completes under Howard Gordon, with Turner bearings even.
What was the Turner front truck?
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Post by Wesley Tucker » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:03 pm

Ramón Königshausen wrote:nobody said it had to be a racing wheel..
Wesley Tucker wrote:How long before we see Brand X Slalom Completes?
Maybe a little ambiguous . . . but not much.
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Post by Joe Iacovelli » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:37 pm

Wesley,

The Turner front truck was the TTC. It was also a rear. Just like some guys have suggested a Rad front in the back for TS.

Suck it.

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Post by Ramón Königshausen » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:50 pm

Wesley Tucker wrote:
Ramón Königshausen wrote:nobody said it had to be a racing wheel..
Wesley Tucker wrote:How long before we see Brand X Slalom Completes?
Maybe a little ambiguous . . . but not much.
Maybe...but we have a Strada model, I remember those wheels were used a lot for slalom back in the days...

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Post by Marcus Seyffarth » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:49 am

Joe Iacovelli wrote:Just like some guys have suggested a Rad front in the back for TS.
This is off topic, but who the hell suggested that? Perhaps its just me being narrow minded...

Ramon, what protos are you making? Bearings or wheels?

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Post by Ramón Königshausen » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:13 pm

wheels...but gogonauts...I'm not making them actually, but I help design

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:12 pm

Marcus Seyffarth wrote:
Joe Iacovelli wrote:Just like some guys have suggested a Rad front in the back for TS.
This is off topic, but who the hell suggested that?
Well, I never suggested it but that's what I rode at the World's TS in '07, two front Rads. Worked for me that day.
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Post by Stephen Lavin » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:45 pm

I may be mistaken (maybe Jack knows) but Bahne did at one time have a deck with Bahne trucks and Bahne wheels. Bahne teamed up with Cadillac bigtime but pretty sure I recall seeing a complete in the day...

Maybe those wheels were someone else's and just wore the Bahne label? Even so I think that would give you the brand X complete now 30 years old :) Of course risers, bearings bolts, nuts, griptape, bla bla would be pushing it but the Wes criteria was deck, trucks, wheels, slalom...
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Post by Rick Floyd » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:18 pm

Stephen Lavin wrote:I may be mistaken (maybe Jack knows) but Bahne did at one time have a deck with Bahne trucks and Bahne wheels. Bahne teamed up with Cadillac bigtime but pretty sure I recall seeing a complete in the day...

Maybe those wheels were someone else's and just wore the Bahne label? Even so I think that would give you the brand X complete now 30 years old :) Of course risers, bearings bolts, nuts, griptape, bla bla would be pushing it but the Wes criteria was deck, trucks, wheels, slalom...
I wonder what the casting for Fullbag trucks would look like....?
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Post by Wesley Tucker » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:09 pm

Well, there were a few "slalom completes" back in the day. Wouldn't a Santa Cruz/Road Rider/Indy be a complete from NHS? Didn't Tunnel make a complete? What's hard to believe is I don't think Sims ever got into the truck business. Considering the way he dominated everything else you'd think he'd spring for some castings. Oh, well.

I guess I screwed up. I woulda' thunk that my question concerned CURRENT manufacturers.

By the way, what truck shipped on that 3DM lead weight Howard was trying to sell just before he sold out? All I know is Parsons had one of those 36" boards and it weighed a ton.
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Post by Lenny Poage » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:16 pm

Ramón Königshausen wrote:Airflow has it!

We have

Bearings
Boards
Trucks
Wheels


rmn
All due respect, but do you make front trucks? I love my airflow back, but didn't see a front on the website. Is one in the works?
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Post by Wesley Tucker » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:21 pm

Lenny Poage wrote:
Ramón Königshausen wrote:Airflow has it!

We have

Bearings
Boards
Trucks
Wheels


rmn
All due respect, but do you make front trucks? I love my airflow back, but didn't see a front on the website. Is one in the works?
Maybe you're right, Lenny. Perhaps my awarding AirFlow the prize was premature.

I thought Airflow made a front similar to what SplitFire was doing but perhaps I'm wrong.

"Complete", though, does mean complete with the exception of bushings and bearings (we'll just pretend "grip tape" was never mentioned.)
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Post by Ulf Haag » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:34 pm

SKF had one complete slalom board 30 years ago under the name Calypso.

Deck
Trucks
Wheels (I think)
Bearings and oil

Pelle Plast still uses his SKF truck as front truck... or did :-)

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Post by Donald Campbell » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:52 pm

pavel makes pavel,gog's and soon to come gogonauts.
hmmm yes that's right or will be right
however ulf is so right about the calypso boards!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Ulf Haag » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:02 pm

I wanna be a GoGonaut... when do they land?

The truck arrived today Thanks Don!

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Post by Donald Campbell » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:17 pm

appeox 2 months from now
ramon helped to shape the wheel
last years podiums have been taken by our boys with the protos,we are still testing to be extrasure about what we sell later on,committed to quality to say so ulf.
gang of gothenburg-onauts you said?

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Post by Jonathan Harms » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:34 pm

Marcus Seyffarth wrote:
Joe Iacovelli wrote:Just like some guys have suggested a Rad front in the back for TS.
This is off topic, but who the hell suggested that? Perhaps its just me being narrow minded...
I didn't suggest it, but I actually tried it, in 2005, for TS. The rear Rads at the time all had the swing-arms, and cut-down Rad rears were very hard to get and were still too wide, in my opinion at the time. Besides that, my TS technique sucked back then (or at least sucked more than it does now), so I needed every advantage I could get to make it through fast TS courses. So I tried it, and it worked fine for me. I remember Bobby Mandarino looking at my board and saying he'd done the same thing too. As long as you have the slow(er)-turning Rad baseplate in the back, it seems to work.

Carry on...

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Post by Ramón Königshausen » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:15 am

Wesley Tucker wrote:
Lenny Poage wrote:
Ramón Königshausen wrote:Airflow has it!

We have

Bearings
Boards
Trucks
Wheels


rmn
All due respect, but do you make front trucks? I love my airflow back, but didn't see a front on the website. Is one in the works?
Maybe you're right, Lenny. Perhaps my awarding AirFlow the prize was premature.

I thought Airflow made a front similar to what SplitFire was doing but perhaps I'm wrong.

"Complete", though, does mean complete with the exception of bushings and bearings (we'll just pretend "grip tape" was never mentioned.)

It is possible to run the rear truck as a front truck. As a matter of fact, Christoph Baumann did very well using this setup from 2004-2006.

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Post by Michael Stride » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:04 pm

Not Virage!

The 'brand' Virage is only for trucks.

The decks will be 'Octane'

the wheels will be .......

we make risers though!
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Post by Wesley Tucker » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:12 am

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Post by Michael Stride » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:37 am

Nope, you've lost me.

My 'children' are designed to work independently of each other. They are not conjoined!
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Post by Dave Gale » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:59 pm

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