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ISSA Logo - time to update it?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:03 am
by Marcus Rietema
Is there an official ISSA Logo? I haven't been able to find one here on the site. If there isn't one we should ask people to submit ideas. We need to develop the ISSA brand identity and a proper logo is the first step.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:14 pm
by Wesley Tucker
Marcus,

This is the ISSA's logo dating back at least until 1995:

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The only time I used it was as a background graphic on the 2008 Rules layout.

Any alteration, improvement, change or direction the members want to go is more than doable.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:11 pm
by Pat Chewning
I like the "SLALOM" logo with the cones and the virtual wheel-tracks going thru them.

(See upper-left corner of this page)

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:17 pm
by Jani Soderhall
The slalom logo was made for the magazine. When Adam Trahan created this site, he suggested we'd use it also for the online version - which he intended as an online magazine.

/Jani

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:45 pm
by Robert Gaisek
So........there is a lot of talented people in the slalomworld....why not start a comp concerning the logo? (if it has to be changed)

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:02 am
by Art Pryde
I agree with Pat, and Hopefully Adam will let us use it as "the logo".

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:04 pm
by Marcus Rietema
Neither the "Slalom" logo or the "ISSA" logo are effective in my opinion.

The "Slalom" logo doesn't say "ISSA" or most importantly "International Skateboard Slalom Association" anywhere. It is completely generic and does nothing to brand the association.

The "ISSA" logo is better since it at least is tied to the association with the letters "ISSA" but once again does nothing to let people outside the sport know what the acronym "ISSA" stands for.

My suggestion is that we create a logo that includes the acronym "ISSA", the words "International Slalom Skateboard Association" and possibly a silhouetted slalom skater in action with cone(s).

Here are some examples of logos that use silhouetted skaters to get their message across. Both of these logos tell a story.

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I think a contest to develop a new logo would be great. Suggestions?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:40 pm
by Robert Gaisek
We have Mika on our site.
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www.slalomskaters.com

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:21 pm
by Marcus Rietema
robert gaisek wrote:We have Mika on our site.
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www.slalomskaters.com
Thank you Robert! I really liked the logo you guys created for the 2008 World's featuring "Mika". Would you guys be willing to create something along those lines for the ISSA?

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:30 pm
by Robert Gaisek
I will forward this question to the "big" guys in the gang. It sounds like a great honour to me.

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:30 am
by Marcus Rietema
robert gaisek wrote:I will forward this question to the "big" guys in the gang. It sounds like a great honour to me.
Thank you! If anyone else is interested in submitting an ISSA logo please do!

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:36 pm
by Rick Floyd
Marcus Rietema wrote:
robert gaisek wrote:I will forward this question to the "big" guys in the gang. It sounds like a great honour to me.
Thank you! If anyone else is interested in submitting am ISSA logo please do!
I do a lot of work like this - so much that time is an issue...but I'll try to crank a few out as roughs or comps to use as a starting point. Don't hang me if I can't get to it though! :-)

Pierre Gravel is someone I'd highly recommend for this type of thing too - at least on our side of the pond.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:22 pm
by Miguel Marco
Rick Floyd wrote:Pierre Gravel is someone I'd highly recommend for this type of thing too - at least on our side of the pond.
Definitely!!! Pierre's work in that domain is outstanding. But he might be in the same situation you are Rick. He's usually burried in work...

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:16 am
by Rick Floyd
Miguel Marco wrote:
Rick Floyd wrote:Pierre Gravel is someone I'd highly recommend for this type of thing too - at least on our side of the pond.
Definitely!!! Pierre's work in that domain is outstanding. But he might be in the same situation you are Rick. He's usually burried in work...
We could always skip a race and work on the ISSA logo instead..........................nah! :-p

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:29 pm
by Pierre Gravel
Rick Floyd wrote:
Miguel Marco wrote:
Rick Floyd wrote:Pierre Gravel is someone I'd highly recommend for this type of thing too - at least on our side of the pond.
Definitely!!! Pierre's work in that domain is outstanding. But he might be in the same situation you are Rick. He's usually burried in work...
We could always skip a race and work on the ISSA logo instead..........................nah! :-p
Thanks for the kind words guys, i'll try to submit a design soon.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:09 pm
by Rick Floyd
speak of the devil...(american colloquialism which is not meant to directly associate the individual in question with satan, but to point out that we were just talking about said individual...and no, I don't know how to say that in French!)

:-)

-RF

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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:26 pm
by Antonio Saluena
What do you think of this? Has to be polished, just a try.
I think it's up to date since the model is Dominik from the Worlds in Gothenburg...

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Antonio

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:30 pm
by Robert Gaisek
I think it looks great! It´s all there......name and a living legend.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:05 pm
by Wesley Tucker
Yes.

A skateboarding silhouette.

No one's done that before.

While we're at it, why not change the name to IGSA "Lite"?

Re: logo

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:23 pm
by Marcus Rietema
Antonio Saluena wrote:What do you think of this? Has to be polished, just a try.
I think it's up to date since the model is Dominik from the Worlds in Gothenburg...

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Antonio
Great first effort! Let's see the ideas keep coming! Thanks!!

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:30 pm
by Rick Floyd
Wesley Tucker wrote:Yes.

A skateboarding silhouette.

No one's done that before.

While we're at it, why not change the name to IGSA "Lite"?
What - did you eat a "mean" pill today or something? At least people are putting stuff out there to be considered. How about "great to have you submitting some work, keep those submissions coming".

**NOTE*** Just saw Marcus' post...exactly!

:-)

-RF

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:03 am
by Cat Young
Wesley Tucker wrote:Yes.

A skateboarding silhouette.

No one's done that before.

While we're at it, why not change the name to IGSA "Lite"?
Nice job Antonio!

I know a lot of people are just too nice to say it, but I'm not.
Wesley, if you don't have anything constructive to say pertaining to the task at hand, shut up.
Others may have great ideas or something to submit, but with idiotic comments like the one above, they may not want to submit anything for fear of being ridiculed.
How do you think this is constructive?

I asked Maggie, my co-worker, and a non-skater, what she thought of the logo... if it was something that would catch her eye. She said it was nice, but would be cool if the skater was turning around the letters.... as if the letters were somehow cones.

I thought this was a great idea! Something to think about.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:19 am
by Rick Floyd
I am loathe to get into internet keyboard battles - but that was uncalled for for sure.

Antonio said, "Has to be polished, just a try". Wes, that's why I asked if you took a mean pill - I think in your profession you know better. An artist starts with thumbnail sketches, they are presented and people brainstorm and make suggestions, then maybe a rough is submitted and the process repeats, then a comp, then a final design. Everyone has bad days - hopefully this was just one of yours.

-RF

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:03 am
by Robert Gaisek
Wasn´t this his birthday? Maybe he´s really drunk?
Maybe I will shut up now? Yes.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:21 pm
by Jani Soderhall
Marcus,

I still have the official ISSA logo stamp, if you'd ever need that one. I guess it's an ISSA object that should be transferred from president to president (along with the presidential envelope in the drawer).
The stamp has this look (note image is slightly cut on this one:)
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I used it for official invitations to the East Block countries back in the 90's. It may still be needed if we want to provide "official" documents to help Russians to obtain visas.

I'm all for a new logo. It should remain a logo though, so not too big, not too decorative, more stylized. We need something that looks good even in very small size.

/Jani

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:35 am
by Wesley Tucker
My idea is something a little more direct, a little '60s retro and colorful. Something about this makes me think of Jan & Dean, Val Surf and the temperature outside is 95 degrees:

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Then, the abbreviated version:

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:07 pm
by Pierre Gravel
Thanks you for your proposal Wesley,
Maybe if it doesn't make it here you could submit it to a Paper Mill Co.. ;-)

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:16 pm
by Wesley Tucker
You know, Pierre, I used to sling ink for a living. Might again someday.

I wonder how many "black liquor," "headbox" and "yankee cylinder" jokes I can stuff in here?

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:22 pm
by Antonio Saluena
two new tries...
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:24 pm
by Wesley Tucker
Antonio,

What type face is that? I've used it before but can't find it in my folio and can't remember the name.

skater?

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:25 pm
by Antonio Saluena
by the way, guess the skater?

Antonio

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:28 pm
by Antonio Saluena
I don't have it here, I'll check tomorrow.

Re: logo

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:26 pm
by HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric
Antonio Saluena wrote:two new tries...

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I like this one, what about a small white cone at the bottom right of the "I" ?

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:53 am
by Wesley Tucker
Antonio,

I found it. ITC Serpentine.

Knew I had used it before.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:53 pm
by Rick Floyd
Just playing with Antonio's idea - his typeface, Pirnack in silhoutte from a Fadell photo...

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-RF

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:09 am
by Joe Iacovelli
That's killer Rick. I think that strainght on shot of Dave, leaning at that impossible angle shows the "speed" or "torque" more than some of the other shots above.

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:20 am
by Karl Floitgraf
I really like Rick's and Antonios first one. It's got to show action and speed.

Antonio- is that Pelleplast?

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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:10 am
by Antonio Saluena
Very nice Rick! Pirnack's style is amazing! I think it's great to have one of the best up to date skaters as a part in the logo!
In my second try i used Luca, one of my idols!

Yeah!

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:05 am
by Claude Regnier
That's perfect. We know Pirnack is always sitting on his Slalomass.

Couch Potato King! I also like the fact he has gear on!

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:14 am
by Robert Gaisek
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Maybe a female rider? One of the best slalompics I ever seen.

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retro

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:54 pm
by Antonio Saluena
Two more, retro style!

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:25 pm
by Joe Iacovelli
What about Rick's Pirnak and Robo's Julie as bookends on an ISSA in the middle? I like Rick's shading on Dave, could you do the same to Julie?

I've got zero skills at this, but appreciate the efforts.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:30 pm
by Robert Gaisek
My skills are like yours.....zero, but the pic is in here somewere. Maybe someone can try?
I just played a little with Antonio´s ( no...not that ) and they even work negative...pretty nice.
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:36 pm
by Joe Iacovelli
It might also be helpful to consider what we'll use the logo for.

We want something that will reproduce on a tshirt, right?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:11 pm
by Cat Young
Joe Iacovelli wrote:It might also be helpful to consider what we'll use the logo for.

We want something that will reproduce on a tshirt, right?
And stickers/bumper stickers???

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:33 pm
by Donald Campbell
just a stupid question to be thrown in the round:
who will be the person to decide which way to go or not?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:55 pm
by Karl Floitgraf
I think we should have a contest. Preliminary voting round, get a couple finalists and then vote for our favorite out of those 2-3 finalists.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:01 pm
by Joe Iacovelli
Donald,

I'll be deciding this in addition to making the decisions on which contests get which standings and naming all the babies born to slalom skateboarders this year. I don't like how things went in 2008, so this year I'm taking over. Infact if all further submissions could be labeled JISSA for Joe I's Slalom Skateboard Association, I'd be most greatful.

Joe

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:21 pm
by Wesley Tucker
Joe,

Trust me: there's nothing to stop you.

If you can just figure out how to get the PayPal account to deposit into your bank, you'd be all set.

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:26 pm
by Robert Gaisek
Karl Floitgraf wrote:I think we should have a contest. Preliminary voting round, get a couple finalists and then vote for our favorite out of those 2-3 finalists.
Way to go!

Put up a date and send in the logo´s!