[2007] Paris Slalom World Cup 2007, May 26-28, 2007

HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric · Post by **HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:24 pm

Hans Lucas wrote:I'm sure that some Dutch riders (AMs) would like to see the cone distance for TS on 7 feet / 2,10m. They have great difficulties with 6,5 feet / 2m because of their fast wheels and technique...

But a few are eager to train on 6,5 feet / 2m; I've scared them with the ISSA rule of 1,70m So now they skate every week, if the weather allows us to...

Later I learned that Paris 2005 was on 2,50 m (AMs). With that distance, they do have a chance.
But of course: you (PWCS!) decide.

You have to warn them about the "natural speed" of the Trocadéro slope too...

Hans Lucas · Post by **Hans Lucas** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:20 pm

I'm sure that some Dutch riders (AMs) would like to see the cone distance for TS on 7 feet / 2,10m. They have great difficulties with 6,5 feet / 2m because of their fast wheels and technique...

But a few are eager to train on 6,5 feet / 2m; I've scared them with the ISSA rule of 1,70m

So now they skate every week, if the weather allows us to...

Later I learned that Paris 2005 was on 2,50 m (AMs). With that distance, they do have a chance.
But of course: you (PWCS!) decide.

HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric · Post by **HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:15 pm

The things I write are MY opinion ( and not in the name of Riderz ), but I'm sure that the readers are smart enough to see the difference ?!

So I repeat myself : I ( and only I, as an AM competitor ) would like to see 6 feet for the pros and 7 feet for the ams...

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:30 am

Ramón Königshausen wrote:What is going on? Once you've made a compliment about that you finally want set the course at reasonable measures you contradict yourself again?

rmn

I don't understand whom and what you say Ramon, but perhaps it has something to do with the facts that some parisians write things here but they never came to any meeting of the organization or anything, or didn't even report anything to us about what you asked here.

so only me, Guillaume Sant-Criq and Jani Soderhall are referents about PSWC.
The email is:
pswc [-at-] riderz -dot- net

The others can give you some good informations about different things, but they talk for their own as long they didn't consult or join the organization committee.

(at least I see we have two people ready to paint some new marks.. great Pat and Fred

)

HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric · Post by **HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:38 am

6 feet for pros and 7 feet for ams seems cool... bring some brand new shoes !

Karl Floitgraf · Post by **Karl Floitgraf** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:54 am

Tyler Hager wrote: can someone give just a rough estimate on what type of spacing I should be practicing for the TS, Special and Gs?

1.8 meters is 5.9 feet on center
2 meters is 6.5 feet on center
2.2 meters 7.2 feet on center
pesky metric system

I'd hate to spend all that money and go all the way to Europe just to suck.

Yeah that never stoped me before from sucking- haha.

Tyler Hager · Post by **Tyler Hager** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:42 am

I hate to sound like a newb or a pest or anything like that, but for an am's sake, can someone give just a rough estimate on what type of spacing I should be practicing for the TS, Special and Gs? I'd hate to spend all that money and go all the way to Europe just to suck.

Thanks in advance,

T

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:38 am

What is going on? Once you've made a compliment about that you finally want set the course at reasonable measures you contradict yourself again?

Michael Dong wrote:2.0 meters is certainly not tight for a pro level racer. Most would use a GS board for this. Why not make it 1.8m in 2007 and keep this? Looks much cooler for the spectators going at a faster cone rate.

Ramón Königshausen wrote:To run both disciplies at 1.80m sounds reasonable for the Trocadéro slope. In the past years we used to do 2m in the Pro category and 2.40m (?) in the Amateurs category. Since I participated in this competition we have never run Straight Slalom tighter than 2m.
If you wanted to succeed you had to use a bigger board and wider wheelbase.

I'm glad we finally got rid of 2m Straight in the Pro category!

rmn

Michael Dong · Post by **Michael Dong** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:06 am

2.0 meters is certainly not tight for a pro level racer. Most would use a GS board for this. Why not make it 1.8m in 2007 and keep this? Looks much cooler for the spectators going at a faster cone rate.

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:15 am

About false start penalty we'll put that to the points to discuss.
I can't see some real reasons not to try if it can make thing more simple and quick

If the race director is ok will probably do it this way (to confirm with Jani, depending also of which penalty).

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:42 am

Hi guys,
sorry I don't have much time to check the forums these days.

For the moment, the straight should be as it ever been (off course you bet it hasn't any link with what I could like or not)
Some racers really enjoy to compare their times from one year to another. I think it's not so bad to have this as a standard race but we can think about it if we have some real complaints about 2m/PRO and 2m20/AM and FEM.

The setting of the special and giant slalom will be set before the race. We never use the same course.
Last year, pro special wasn't an easy course with tight parts and wider parts
( http://www.longboard.ch/videos/pswc06_pro_special.mpg ).

Chris Barker · Post by **Chris Barker** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:42 pm

I am still confused... So will the Pro straight be 1.8m or 2.0m?

David Rudnianski · Post by **David Rudnianski** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:03 pm

Sorry all, Patrick is right ( I was thinking about our flat race) Pro are 2 meters.

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:16 pm

I believe I can imagine where it is. When you come down the Trocadéro then you have to turn to the right side, right?

rmn

Patrick Allan · Post by **Patrick Allan** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:06 pm

I'm pretty sure last year was 2m for pros and 2m20 for ams

Sorry guys, that's the way it is, Vincent prefers wide gates... j/k

No, seriously, I will peronally see to it that the tight and the special courses be tighter this year for the pros... :niark: We'll have to talk about it amongst ourselves...

And there is also a chance, as David said, that the giant might be set on a slightly longer and steeper hill but with a slightly less smooth pavement, right above the the normal hill next to the gardens...

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:46 pm

So you're talking about either discipline Straight AND Special Slalom?

To run both disciplies at 1.80m sounds reasonable for the Trocadéro slope. In the past years we used to do 2m in the Pro category and 2.40m (?) in the Amateurs category. Since I participated in this competition we have never run Straight Slalom tighter than 2m.
If you wanted to succeed you had to use a bigger board and wider wheelbase.

I'm glad we finally got rid of 2m Straight in the Pro category!

rmn

Chris Barker · Post by **Chris Barker** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:28 pm

Thanks David. So is Pro Tight at 1.8m or 2.0m? In 2005, I thought it would be 1.8, but then I think we ran 2.0. Maybe I am mistaken, but please let us know...

Thanks.

David Rudnianski · Post by **David Rudnianski** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:14 pm

Chris,

Courses are changed evry year. The are usaly set few days before the race. We use to do a pro tight at 1.80 m and a.m at 2.00meters. Special should be in the same length . The giant Could be set up on the black track up to the red track, in the garden. It's 50 m longer and the slope is bigger with great asphlat. But this is not sure at all.

Chris Barker · Post by **Chris Barker** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:09 pm

Can someone let us know what kind of courses to expect for 2007?
Is straight at 6 meter? Are the special and giant going to be new or
do you run the same painted courses every year?

Thanks.

Patrick Allan · Post by **Patrick Allan** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:30 pm

I agree with you... We'll talk about amongst ourselves and make a decision quickly...

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:24 pm

My question has nothing to do with the use of the Foghorn.

It has to use with unnecessary delays in racing. If Europe switches to the false start penalty adapted at most races in North America it is simply better for the racers and the audience.

Time after time, we have had to watch restarts of racer. There are times when we've seen restart after restart in a round, in several heats. This is not entertaining in the least. Let the racers go and as usual the commentary follows with "Oh that was an early start. We'll have to see what the time penalty will at the end" rather then the Foghorn or whatever to slow things down and bring everybody back to the starting gates. Sometimes it's as long as, a minute or two. Calculate that into the endless possibilities of false starts.

I'm sure this will be the system used at the Worlds (Marion?) this year and as we are hoping to have a strong European contingent I would expect that you would like to have time to get used to the system.

The one thing expressed over the years about Slalom is that watching it can be boring. At any event, constant delays are boring and cause people to wonder off and leave. All it takes is a small distraction and some people will move on. This is simply another way to keep things moving along and run an event a little quicker. Think about it. If there we’re 60 (yeah likely more then usual) false starts in a day it would add up to an extra hour. Over a 3 day, event it becomes too much for anyone. Also, having personally attended a lot of races over the last few years there are very few people who like the present system.

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:57 pm

What was wrong? The only thing I can remember that wasn't proper was that sometimes you couldn't hear the beeps due to the wind stroking past the speakers!

rmn

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:37 am

mmmmhhhhhh foghorns

Karl Floitgraf · Post by **Karl Floitgraf** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:42 am

Claude Regnier wrote:Just wondering if the Paris event this year will due away with the false starts and change to the added penalty for the races?

It's too late. The tickets are already purchasd but it would still be nice to know what the plan is.

Yeah somebody needs to take that DAMN FOGHORN away from the timing tent. It was lame in brixlegg.

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:07 am

Just wondering if the Paris event this year will due away with the false starts and change to the added penalty for the races?

It's too late. The tickets are already purchasd but it would still be nice to know what the plan is.

Tyler Hager · Post by **Tyler Hager** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:40 am

This will be my first time coming to this race, but not my first time in Europe.

To say I'm stoked doesn't even begin to capture it.

I'll see you cats in May.

Guillaume Saint-Criq · Post by **Guillaume Saint-Criq** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:03 pm

hi Claude

For travelling from Paris to Hannover, there is a low cost company (TUIFLY) which fly from Paris Orly to Hannover, for very cheap prices.

Happy to see you again this year.

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:31 pm

MB and I are booked and arrive on May 22. See you folks for the regular Tuesay night practice sessions

The only thing left to figure out is the transportation to & from Hanover. We're going to see if anyone wants to split a vehicle for the trip. Room is booked at the Mercure in Hanover.

Looking forward to seeing you all again EH!

Patrick Allan · Post by **Patrick Allan** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:55 pm

soon...

Katii Campbell · Post by **Katii Campbell** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:52 pm

i'm sure the question has been answered but is the site up yet to register for paris?

Hans Lucas · Post by **Hans Lucas** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:33 pm

Detlef Rehbock wrote:no problem for your camera. we go by car, so you can put your camera in my car. we see us in paris and bring your freestyle board with you. i will see some old tricks

Haha, no, just slalom and filming, but some great Dutch freestylers (like Hans Smit, Bart Brunninkhuis) are planning to demonstrate there!
We'll freestyle some other time, OK? Taking 3 boards (or even 2), together with a video camera, etc. to Paris is a bit heavy.
Thx for the offer!

Detlef Rehbock · Post by **Detlef Rehbock** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:25 pm

no problem for your camera. we go by car, so you can put your camera in my car.
we see us in paris and bring your freestyle board with you. i will see some old tricks

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:56 am

Hans Lucas wrote:I'd like to take my camera, as well as my board(s); is there a secured area, where I can leave one of them for some time?

There's no safe area at the Trocadéro, but there are fences around the skate area and so far we haven't had many problems with thefts. Typically skaters look after other skaters stuff. There is also the timing/speaker table between the starting ramps which always has people up there, so more valuable equipment can always be put around there. But it's still on your own risk.

Avoid leaving valuables, bags and decks close to the fences towards the outside of the area. Trocadero is a place where things easily get stolen.

/Jani

David Rudnianski · Post by **David Rudnianski** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:31 am

There should be no problem for your camera. We can keep an eye on it.....

Hans Lucas · Post by **Hans Lucas** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:45 am

I'd like to take my camera, as well as my board(s); is there a secured area, where I can leave one of them for some time? (a small fee for that would be no problem, at least not to me). But no problem if there isn't.

Are the purple "homeless tents" gone? Or is it possible to mingle our tents between theirs, thus supporting the requests by homeless clochards for affordable houses?

HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric · Post by **HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:40 pm

Karl, on "Riderz" forum, we're looking for people to host international racers, we'll let you know...

maybe you could share a room with Katii ?!

PARIS, city of looooooooooooooove.......

Karl Floitgraf · Post by **Karl Floitgraf** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:16 pm

Hey Guys

I've been hearing about the Paris Slalom World Cup for Years.My earliest slalom memories are John Gilmour showing me his 2nd place trophies from 2003. My school schedule and good luck are allowing me to attend this race. I had a lot of fun in Brixlegg hanging out with all the french dudes especially Patrick and Frederick.

I've got a plane ticket and a eurrail pass, but that's about it so far. I am looking for someone to split a hotel room with or anywhere to stay really. I just need space for my sleeping bag. I don't have a whole lot of cash. Anyone whose got a clue about this whole event and the city of paris.

Bryan 'the weasel' won't be coming with me as he is involved with his classes graduation and prom partying. So I need a new race room mate.

Send me an email or pm.

Thanks

PS Frederick- I'm bringing your old PPS back home... and it looks good!

Katii Campbell · Post by **Katii Campbell** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:27 pm

nahh chris im stayin in a hotel i just wanted to see if the hobo tent was available first :] and ill give her your canadian best. which reminds me if anyone wants to share a hotel room email me.

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:01 pm

Humm... some security guys will be in charge of the tents during the nights.
So anybody cannot be there. Access will be restricted.

Know that some French are ready to host racers that can't afford hotel.

Normally nobody should stay in the tent to sleep. A few years ago, organizers stayed there because we coudn't have a night guard so it become a kind of habit.
So sleeping in the tents could be possible, but ASK US before if you want to choose this solution (PM me). We cannot let too many people there and you'll have to respect a few rules.

Chris Barrett · Post by **Chris Barrett** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:23 pm

You crashing in that hobo tent, Katii? :P

Me and Civ will be there to bother you again, but we're crashing at a hotel. Hope your fake english accent has improved

Too bad your ma can't make it, she's a chiller, give her our canadian best.

Katii Campbell · Post by **Katii Campbell** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:23 pm

sorry, i wasnt specific i meant a tent for racers to sleep in at the race site like there was last year, and my mom wont be coming this year she has moved back to the US.

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:55 pm

Yes, tents are available for brands or distributors that want to show their products. There are really few still available but it's an unique occasion to promote your stuff with the Eiffel tower as landscape.
The money paid for the tent goes directly to the Prize Money purse.

Don't hesitate to contact me , Guillaume Saint-Criq or Jani if you are interested about sponsoring PSWC 2007.

I also remind everybody, that if you plan to promote or sell something during Paris Slalom World Cup, please contact us about partnership.
On site promotion is exclusively reserved to sponsors.
If you don't sponsor the event, don't sell anything there!
Respect our nice sponsors. It's the least we can ask for.

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:49 pm

Katii Campbell wrote:does anyone know if there will be a tent at the race site like there was last year?

Certainly, there will at least the same amount of tents, for the organizers, for the equipment, for sponsors/exhibitors and probably a tent or two for the racers (for sun protection - nothing else planned), but really why do you ask?

PS. We're still interested in sponsorship for PSWC and other races this year. Ask mom to contact me will you? Jani@slalomskateboarder DOT com

/Jani

Katii Campbell · Post by **Katii Campbell** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:18 pm

does anyone know if there will be a tent at the race site like there was last year?

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:29 pm

about the website, we were waiting for new designs but my new rules is that you should never trust design people!!! So it should arrive soon.. be ready

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:39 am

Peter Klang wrote:How do I registrer? at Trocadero before the race or online?

It'll be online (as in previous years) and we have a tradition to not put it up too early. It's in the process of being finalized, so it'll be up sometime soon.

/Jani

Peter Klang · Post by **Peter Klang** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:31 pm

How do I registrer? at Trocadero before the race or online?

Puss puss
PK

HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric · Post by **HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:43 pm

Civ'

You have to know that the closer of the Trocadéro area, the more expensive ! When you are in Paris, you're never too far from everywhere !

Mike Cividino · Post by **Mike Cividino** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:37 pm

can I ask which hostel is the closest to the race site? My girlfriend(shasta) and I are looking for decent lodging, and something a little nicer and closer than the 3 ducks. Thanks.

Guillaume Saint-Criq · Post by **Guillaume Saint-Criq** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:33 pm

Karl Floitgraf wrote:Where in the heck do you sign up for the race.

Karl
we still work on website and registration
it will come soon

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Re: 2.0 Meter Pro Tight?

Re: 2.0 Meter Pro Tight?

2.0 Meter Pro Tight?

Foghorn not the problem!

Re: Timming this year!

Timming this year!

Booked

sign ups

Re: hey hans

hey hans

Re: a secured area

a secured area