[2005] European Championships, Stockholm, July 15-17, 2005
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Ok, that's it. Let's go official.
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I would say, this was long and clear enough by Peter Klang and the Swedes. In our unorganized (somehow) situation, this was absolutely correct and well done in my opinion. I am really looking forward to the event.20 Oct 2004 12:17 5 - European Championships 2005
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Stockholm wants to host the Euros 2005.
Anyone out there with plans of hosting the Euros 2005?
Stockholm will run a three day event july 15-17 with
Gaint Slalom, Big offsets long course (40 sec).
Tight Slalom, like Morro Bay style, about 70 cones.
Straight Slalom, 6 feet= 1,80 meters, 60 cones.
This is how its going to look like if the racers of Europe wants it.
Let us know how you feel. All comments are welcome, don't be shy.
13 Jan 2005 17:10
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If no other claims the European Championships for 2005 until Saturday January 16 I propose we officially announce Stockholm. It's important for us as organizers to know. We want to get started contacting sponsors and it will help towards the local authorities. As Chris mentioned it's also good for the racers to know as soon as possible to be able to plan ahead and getting cheap tickets.
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That's my idea too, stay a day or two extra in Riga for sightseeing, then head over to Stockholm and get there early.John Gilmour wrote:Well if Riga and Stockholm happen on consecutive weekends I will surely attend both.
See you there!
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Well if Riga and Stockholm happen on consecutive weekends I will surely attend both.
One good turn deserves another
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information?
hello peter,
congratulations to you hosting the european championship.
hope to see you there. we plan our trip to sweden.
is there a website for your event, where we can sign in?
yeah, keep on rolling
congratulations to you hosting the european championship.
hope to see you there. we plan our trip to sweden.
is there a website for your event, where we can sign in?
yeah, keep on rolling
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Well,
I think Elena shouldn’t be bummed, 2.0-2.20 meter apart is still fast for this course. The start ramp will allow riders enough speed to slam, knock down cones and DQ. In the special slalom I hope nobody complains till they see the course, it will be tight.
The Competition will have three courses all different. It’s meant to be variation, not two- three similar courses. Therefor a straight (not so tight high-speed course), a tight (very tight and technical course) and a long big offset giant course (demands a totally different technique compared to the tight).
I think there is something for everyone at this race, not only slalom. The race on Saturday and Sunday is just outside Stockholm Skatepark. Bring all your board there is also a decent downhill course near by. Bring your shorts, there is water all around in Stockholm, bring your appetite, there is GREAT food in Stockholm.
A little point, Sweden is in fact NOT as expensive as France, Switzerland or the USA.
//Dragan
I think Elena shouldn’t be bummed, 2.0-2.20 meter apart is still fast for this course. The start ramp will allow riders enough speed to slam, knock down cones and DQ. In the special slalom I hope nobody complains till they see the course, it will be tight.
The Competition will have three courses all different. It’s meant to be variation, not two- three similar courses. Therefor a straight (not so tight high-speed course), a tight (very tight and technical course) and a long big offset giant course (demands a totally different technique compared to the tight).
I think there is something for everyone at this race, not only slalom. The race on Saturday and Sunday is just outside Stockholm Skatepark. Bring all your board there is also a decent downhill course near by. Bring your shorts, there is water all around in Stockholm, bring your appetite, there is GREAT food in Stockholm.
A little point, Sweden is in fact NOT as expensive as France, Switzerland or the USA.
//Dragan
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Great!
I'm asking this for Elena Sinodalova (who I'm sure will be bummed to hear about 5 meter parallel Sl and who would most likely want to compete in the men's Pro class @ 1.8 meters).
Foot-dragging or runout? (again, some concerned comrades from the flatland slalom country would like to know)
Bunches of thankses and DA, a few people have already marked this one as a MUST-ATTEND.
I'm asking this for Elena Sinodalova (who I'm sure will be bummed to hear about 5 meter parallel Sl and who would most likely want to compete in the men's Pro class @ 1.8 meters).
Foot-dragging or runout? (again, some concerned comrades from the flatland slalom country would like to know)
Bunches of thankses and DA, a few people have already marked this one as a MUST-ATTEND.
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Privjet Vlad,
The Hill used for the Giant Slalom is steep enough. It curves almost 90 degres at one point.
The venue used for the tight and straight will be flater compare to Paris. When you go through the tight special slalom course you will be happy its not steep.
Straight slalom women will run the same course as the ams and juniors, 2.20 m. If riders want to tighten it up to 2.00 we will listend.
Ti pridjosj?
/Nendatjnik
The Hill used for the Giant Slalom is steep enough. It curves almost 90 degres at one point.
The venue used for the tight and straight will be flater compare to Paris. When you go through the tight special slalom course you will be happy its not steep.
Straight slalom women will run the same course as the ams and juniors, 2.20 m. If riders want to tighten it up to 2.00 we will listend.
Ti pridjosj?
/Nendatjnik
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If no other claims the European Championships for 2005 until Saturday January 16 I propose we officially announce Stockholm. It's important for us as organizers to know. We want to get started contacting sponsors and it will help towards the local authorities. As Chris mentioned it's also good for the racers to know as soon as possible to be able to plan ahead and getting cheap tickets.
Stockholm has good communications with Ryan Air. These are current prices in SEK (Swedish crones). 100 SEK is right now 11 Euros so most prices are 22 Euros. Very cheap!
Düsseldorf(Weeze) 196
Brussels(Charleroi) 196
Milan (Bergamo) 199
Riga 196
Frankfurt (Hahn) 196
Rom (Ciampino) 209
Glasgow 196
London Stansted 196
Girona (Barcelona) 299
Hamburg (Lübeck) 196
Paris (Beauvais) 196
Shannon 299
Riga is a new destination for Ryan Air from Stockholm. Since they will have a competition the weekend before why not take a whole week off. Go to Riga first weekend then take som vacation days in Riga/Stockholm before the Euros in Stockholm Friday-Sunday.
Stockholm has good communications with Ryan Air. These are current prices in SEK (Swedish crones). 100 SEK is right now 11 Euros so most prices are 22 Euros. Very cheap!
Düsseldorf(Weeze) 196
Brussels(Charleroi) 196
Milan (Bergamo) 199
Riga 196
Frankfurt (Hahn) 196
Rom (Ciampino) 209
Glasgow 196
London Stansted 196
Girona (Barcelona) 299
Hamburg (Lübeck) 196
Paris (Beauvais) 196
Shannon 299
Riga is a new destination for Ryan Air from Stockholm. Since they will have a competition the weekend before why not take a whole week off. Go to Riga first weekend then take som vacation days in Riga/Stockholm before the Euros in Stockholm Friday-Sunday.
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We have discussed this and have our view. There are reasons to everything so Ill put this as simple as possible. Even though we understand the world is not perfect.
Swedes do not get to vote, even more important, Swedes can not be in the representative group. Why??? Well the non-Swedes will be stronger and freer to criticize the event and stress the racers issues. We think the racers need a strong voice free of any Swedish influence, only then can the organizers and the representatives have an honest dialog.
Therefor NO Swedes can be representatives.
Why can’t we vote (Jani), well if Swedes vote they influence the choice of representatives, which can be misinterpreted at the end. If we going to have a completely free and independent group of representatives it most be free of Swedes.
I can’t understand why anyone would want us in the group, we are the congest of the world, we are simply a pain in the ass.
Swedes do not get to vote, even more important, Swedes can not be in the representative group. Why??? Well the non-Swedes will be stronger and freer to criticize the event and stress the racers issues. We think the racers need a strong voice free of any Swedish influence, only then can the organizers and the representatives have an honest dialog.
Therefor NO Swedes can be representatives.
Why can’t we vote (Jani), well if Swedes vote they influence the choice of representatives, which can be misinterpreted at the end. If we going to have a completely free and independent group of representatives it most be free of Swedes.
I can’t understand why anyone would want us in the group, we are the congest of the world, we are simply a pain in the ass.
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yes why not have five, although there is a german saying that "too many cooks destroy the meal"..............well, five is ok I think and why not have a swede in there........note all should be able to speak in one language, (for example english).
Yeah, Peter puts up the list an then lets get to work.....eh, vote
Yeah, Peter puts up the list an then lets get to work.....eh, vote
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I would suggest adding Vincent Berruchon, France.Chris Eggers wrote:Vote for racer representatives:
Chris Linford, UK
Donald Campbell, Germany
Chris Hart, Switzerland
I also think that there should be at least one Swede in the group. Extend it to five in total and you can still make it fair. It is normal that an event held in Sweden has at least 20% of Swedish influence. It should then be someone not (too much) involved in the organization. Maybe Henrik Madsen?
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OK, GREAT, now we talking. Thanks a bunch for getting the voting going.
Just something for swedes to remember.
YOU DON`T GET TO VOTE.
Om du är Svenne får du INTE rösta på representanter till Stockholm World Cup, faktum är att hälften av vår befolkning borte fråntagas denna rättighet (att just rösta, fast i riksdagsvalet), inte ni skateboardåkare naturligtvis, men alla suspekta peroner som upphöjs till väljar vart fjärde år.
Just something for swedes to remember.
YOU DON`T GET TO VOTE.
Om du är Svenne får du INTE rösta på representanter till Stockholm World Cup, faktum är att hälften av vår befolkning borte fråntagas denna rättighet (att just rösta, fast i riksdagsvalet), inte ni skateboardåkare naturligtvis, men alla suspekta peroner som upphöjs till väljar vart fjärde år.
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Chris, The contest in Stockholm will be a big event. However it will be the European Championships I can’t tell you yet. We put up our request on this site to see who was interested in hosting the Euros and at the same time show our interest. The decision of whom the hosting nation will be is up to ISSA. Stockholm is so far the only city whom showed interest.
IF THERE ARE OTHERS INTERESTED IN HOSTING THE EUROS. POST IT NOW. THE DECISION WILL BE MADE BY ISSA SOON.
Off course Stockholm wants to host the euros.
Please do not forget the racers representatives, so far nobody have voted. COME ON, VOTE. It´s for you, it should be in your interest.
IF THERE ARE OTHERS INTERESTED IN HOSTING THE EUROS. POST IT NOW. THE DECISION WILL BE MADE BY ISSA SOON.
Off course Stockholm wants to host the euros.
Please do not forget the racers representatives, so far nobody have voted. COME ON, VOTE. It´s for you, it should be in your interest.
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Happy New Year everybody, now you all should get involved. Stockholm wants to put on a comp as fair as ever. To do so we need an independent group of three, chosen by you the riders, to be there and speak in the name of the competitors. This group of individuals can race themselves but not required; the whole idea is to have a communication between the rider’s representatives and the event coordinator about any issue regarding the competition.
For example: Paul Price races Janis Kuzmin and Paul claims Janis was given the wrong time and that Janis should actually be the one advancing to the next round, then Paul would go to anyone of the three riders representatives. Then the rider’s representatives would speak to the contest coordinator and solve the mistake. Personally I doubt it will be any mistakes but just in case…
So put up suggestions here or mail me and we’ll see whom the riders chose to represent them, most votes get the honor, if he/she accepts.
PS: Swedes don’t get to vote.
//Glen
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For example: Paul Price races Janis Kuzmin and Paul claims Janis was given the wrong time and that Janis should actually be the one advancing to the next round, then Paul would go to anyone of the three riders representatives. Then the rider’s representatives would speak to the contest coordinator and solve the mistake. Personally I doubt it will be any mistakes but just in case…
So put up suggestions here or mail me and we’ll see whom the riders chose to represent them, most votes get the honor, if he/she accepts.
PS: Swedes don’t get to vote.
//Glen
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Ramon,
Like Jani said it’s our request, I know Gints is putting in a bid from Riga, Latvia. Unfortunately for you their plans are the exact same weekend. I don’t know if it will make a difference but Euro status or not, I can promise you a memorable stay in Stockholm.
Update:
I spoke with the City and they are very exited about the event. We are putting everything on paper right now. The format is also going to be put up on the web-site sometime in march. Hopefully will the sponsors be just as exited as we are. SKF should be interested considering their product and the status skateboard will receive very soon in the Olympic committee. This is a hint to you know who.
From the cold water of Sweden
Peter Klang
Like Jani said it’s our request, I know Gints is putting in a bid from Riga, Latvia. Unfortunately for you their plans are the exact same weekend. I don’t know if it will make a difference but Euro status or not, I can promise you a memorable stay in Stockholm.
Update:
I spoke with the City and they are very exited about the event. We are putting everything on paper right now. The format is also going to be put up on the web-site sometime in march. Hopefully will the sponsors be just as exited as we are. SKF should be interested considering their product and the status skateboard will receive very soon in the Olympic committee. This is a hint to you know who.
From the cold water of Sweden
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I don't think it is absolutely sure. The race plans are serious, but I think details still has to be nailed down. July is the safest month (in terms of weather conditions) for a race in Sweden.Is this date absolutely sure?
That it'll be the European Championships is just a request. I think Peter is asking if anybody else wants to "compete" for next years euro championships.
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Peter -- Thanks for replying. We of course understand it's not practical to bunch things too close together -- especially the major events. Don't mean to imply we expect you all to arrange your year around us.
Our best hope will be to hit 2 if at all possible -- which is how it has worked out the last two years. Mainly, I'm hoping to be able to figure out our plan as early as I can and get our airfare secured. Where can I get more info on the Hanover race?
So far the US races are tentative by month with only specific dates for Hood River that I am aware of. Here is a quote from Gary Fluitt who is in charge of the ACSS --

So far the US races are tentative by month with only specific dates for Hood River that I am aware of. Here is a quote from Gary Fluitt who is in charge of the ACSS --
I will keep our event calendar on SK8KINGS.COM updated as things are confirmed. Any info can be forwarded to me at: maria@sk8kings.com Thanks again!This is how it is looking for the 2005 Season. The goal here is to move the races around a little bit, and have a nice cadence leading up to the worlds. There are A LOT more races than will fit into the series. This is still open for debate. If someone would like to have their race in the series, you need to let me know. I'm open minded, and yet, I have some clear objectives.
April- Luna
May- Virginia Beach? (DC, Virginy crew working it)
June- San Diego
July- Hood
Early August - The Farm
Late August - Breckenridge
Sept- Morro Bay
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Hey Maria,
I droped Richy a mail some time ago.
I will not talk anyone of not going to Paris or wherever, but the Stockholm thing will be something for Richy, and everybody. I can´t say to much at this stage but I think his 360s will come in handy in one of the events.
We are aiming at a great skateboard experience for more then just the slalom racers. How ??? we will get back on that.
I know many Americans want the European contests to be very close. If we would put them all in a few weeks, our season would be over before july. The USA races are not placed in convinience for the Europeans, for the same reason. I know you guys realy want to make it to as many European events as possible. The Euro guys want to make it to as many USA races as possible. As it looks now Paris is may 14-16, Hannover Germany june 4-5, Gruningen Swizzz june 18-19. We are thinking of moving Stockholm, cuz the major/main events would all be used up in Europe before the summer even starts. When we make a decision and the city approves the date we´ll get back to all.
How does the USA schedule look like for 2005 ?
I droped Richy a mail some time ago.
I will not talk anyone of not going to Paris or wherever, but the Stockholm thing will be something for Richy, and everybody. I can´t say to much at this stage but I think his 360s will come in handy in one of the events.
We are aiming at a great skateboard experience for more then just the slalom racers. How ??? we will get back on that.
I know many Americans want the European contests to be very close. If we would put them all in a few weeks, our season would be over before july. The USA races are not placed in convinience for the Europeans, for the same reason. I know you guys realy want to make it to as many European events as possible. The Euro guys want to make it to as many USA races as possible. As it looks now Paris is may 14-16, Hannover Germany june 4-5, Gruningen Swizzz june 18-19. We are thinking of moving Stockholm, cuz the major/main events would all be used up in Europe before the summer even starts. When we make a decision and the city approves the date we´ll get back to all.
How does the USA schedule look like for 2005 ?