Parallelslalom Race Grueningen, Schweiz 21./22. Juni 2003

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:45 am

Results will be posted today.

Howard Gordon · Post by **Howard Gordon** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:55 pm

You're right. We were struggling to remember the finish order from Saturday, since it seems like a week has passed already. Sorry, Paul. I'll fix the prior post.

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:10 pm

Luca WAS one second ahead of me in the tight if you look at best times.

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:08 pm

Howard, I think you made a mistake putting Richie in the top 4 of the tight slalom. He was further down the list (I think in 5-9th somewhere). It was Paul Price and Maurus Strobel 3rd and 4th.

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 11:48 am

For the course info hungry:

The tight was set by Chris Hart and myself. Chris H. later decided to start in the Am class because he did not make the course clean. The guy just goes all the way every time he rides, bammbammbamm, he does not brake or limit his push, so he was too fast in the end.
The tight consisted of approx. 50 cones and Vlad would have loved it.

The giant consisted of approx. 38 Cones and was set by Pierre Samray and myself (Ed Brokmann could not whip his belly out of the bed early enough). The Giant had one difficult cone that took away some speed about midway, but it was fun to see people struggling to get around it and it was interesting to see the different lines and techniques.

I did not hear too many complaints about it.

Any comments? ( I like to hear them)

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Howard Gordon · Post by **Howard Gordon** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 10:45 am

Tight slalom pro
1 Luca Giammarco
2 Jani Soderhall
3 Maurus Strobel
4 Paul Price

Hybrid slalom pro
1 Luca Gianmarco
2 Maurus Strobel
3 Chris Hart
4 Richy Carrasco

Boys - Dylan got 3rd place both days. The riders that beat him were all 14-16 years old. He also qualified 15th in the tight (out of 50 adults) and 11th in the hybrid

Women - Lauren was 4th in the tight and 1st in the hybrid.

The pro tight was very technical - the riders said it was much more difficult than Paris. Luca won the tight on his old wheels Saturday, but then switched to Cambrias on Sunday to win the hybrid.

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Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:44 am

Luca took the 1000 Sfr. Won both days and did his usual. You saw faces of disbelieve everywhere. More later.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:57 pm

I heard Luca took 1st with over 1 sec on Jani. This is not confirmed.
Vlad.

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:52 pm

On 2003-06-16 10:15, Chris Eggers wrote:
just a quick note: The OK is working on a live coverage of the event on the internet. Stay tuned, the link will be displayed. So the slalom world can watch the event online. How cool is that?

What happened or is happening at the Swiss Race? How did the first day of racing go? The last day of racing is probably drawing to a close as I type this. Was the web cam that Chris mentioned above ever posted anywhere? Any info would be good.

Howard Gordon · Post by **Howard Gordon** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 4:44 pm

We have arrived at the Hotel Illuster (room 401). Richy and Maria Carrasco are here also. If anyone has information on where to go for the practice, please let us know.

Thanks, Howard

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:55 am

Rafcing will start at 11 or 12 I think and we will start with the AMs and Girls and Juniors.
see you all! I am off in a few minutes!

Michael Dong · Post by **Michael Dong** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:46 am

What is the schedule for the Swiss race? My work schedule is threatening to cancel my plans to race. What is the start time for the mens race? Is the tight on Sat and GS on Sunday? I am wondering if I left on Saturday early if there is any way I could make it to race on Sat. I am hoping I will be able to at least make it for the Sunday race.

Michael

Maria Carrasco · Post by **Maria Carrasco** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:09 pm

Hi Slalom Friends...

England was a blast! Great hanging with the locals and racing at Brands! Thanks all for your hospitality ... Mr. Stride you are a true gent and Simon Levene -- Brighton rocks!!

Richy and I are in Zurich today in the internet cafe at the moment. Really warm and very beautiful place. Trying to take in the sites and enjoy till we head off to the hotel near race site. Sounds like alot of us are staying at the same place at the Hotel Illuster Garni. Should be arriving sometime tomorrow (Friday) and want to make the practice session. We can get phone messages at our hotel in Zurich. Hope the train goes close to the hotel . . . See you all very soon!!

Cheers!

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:45 pm

Came to Geneve today (Thursday) and it must be a record in high temperature. Hopefully it will not be as hot in Grüningen. Planing on a ride along the Geneve lake tonight when things cool down a little. Seen two guys cruizing on slalomboards so there are some sencible people here after all.

See you all tomorrow in Grüningen.

Paul Price · Post by **Paul Price** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:17 pm

I arrive Friday 20 June at Zurich on flight 2033 at 16.25 from London. I have no ride or accommodation. Any offers?

Looking forward to seeing you all for some hot slalom action!

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 12:13 am

We're coming!!!!

Can we practice on Friday afternoon, night?

Howard Gordon · Post by **Howard Gordon** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:34 pm

Nice weather today, though lots of rain in the morning. We found a place to practice near Interlaken in the parking lot of "Mystery Park". Tomorrow we will visity the Matterhorn. Looking forward to seeing everyone Friday !

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 11:51 am

The wheather for Grueningen for the weekend looks good!

http://wetter2.web.de/cgi-bin/web-de/we ... t.pl?ID=48

and what do you think of a sunset at 9.26 p.m.?

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Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:07 pm

Wow, live coverage would be great! But I'll be there whether I can skate or not! Looks like I'll be working as a photographer rather than as a skater.

I went through the list of online registrations today and it is quite impressive. Gianluca has put together an impressive Italian team with former champions Gatti and Ugolini. And we haven't recovered yet from the impression of Luca in Paris...

With Richie Carrasco and Michael Dong warming up in the UK, looks like the coming weekend will be pretty hot!

Many girls and boys too. Great for our sport. Can't wait to experience it all!

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:15 pm

just a quick note: The OK is working on a live coverage of the event on the internet. Stay tuned, the link will be displayed. So the slalom world can watch the event online. How cool is that?

Maria Carrasco · Post by **Maria Carrasco** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:51 am

Tomorrow's the big day. Just in case anyone wants to know -- here is our plan . . .

We're arriving in London Friday night (June 13) about 9-ish and staying at the Huttons Hotel on Belgrave near Victoria Station (44 20) 78343726 (till our early Thursday morning flight to Zurich.)

Going to Brands race with Michael Stride. Thanks Michael!!

Train to Gatwick from London Victoria for
flight to Switzerland via EasyJet:
Thursday 19 June, flight 5003
departs London Gatwick (South Terminal) at 06:25, arrives Zurich at 09:15

Hotel one night (Thursday June 19) in Zurich at Zic Zac Rock Hotel, Phone: 01-2612181

Will train to Grueningen on Friday.

Hotel in Grueningen for Swiss Race (Fri 6-20 through Mon 6-23)
Hotel Illuster Garni
8610 Uster
phone 01 944 85 85

Back to Zurich on Monday morning via train for a.m. flight home.

If anyone is going in similar directions with a car and has room for two more -- we could be persuaded . . .

)

We won't have a mobile phone so if anyone wants to hook up -- please leave message at our place of lodging. Looking forward to seeing you all soon. Will still be checking our e-mail, etc. until we leave Cali tomorrow night. Cheers!

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:43 am

Otherwise, can we find a practice session in Gruningen during Friday ?

Check out the race site on friday evening. Werkhof Areal in Grueningen. We will be there to make final preparations and skate a little. See you soon.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 3:01 am

Ahh, I hate when I miss out on nice slalom films. The film on the site is streamed somehow so I can't see it properly. I guess you have to have a broadband connection or something to make that film show smoothly.

Why not letting people download the film instead? Then everybody could enjoy it.

Howard Gordon · Post by **Howard Gordon** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:23 pm

We're arriving Zurich Tuesday morning, and will travel to Lauterbrunnen in the Bernese Oberland for 3 nights (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday) before travelling to Gruningen, hopefully staying at Hotel Illuster in Uster for Friday and Saturday nights.

If anyone knows of any slalom practice sessions during Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday in the Interlaken region, please let us know. Otherwise, can we find a practice session in Gruningen during Friday ?

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:37 pm

As we are getting closer and closer to the race the organizing committee loaded another short film onto the website http://www.pscontest.ch to wet your appetite. It features great skaters like Sharon Sidlo, Jani Söderhäll, Gianluca Ferrero, Martin Siegrist, the new born Pro Edwin Brokman and many others at the Tunnel race and a few bonus scenes and chrashes. Check it out in the news section. Enjoy.

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Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:39 am

Yes you will not find many infos about Grüningen itself. It is a VERY small town/village.
It is not far from Zürich, about 33 minutes by car, I think about 50 minutes or less by public transport. The hotel guys in Zürich will be able to tell you how to get there I am sure. Swiss public transport is more perfect than car traffic in Zürich.

See the route at

http://www.map24.de/map24/routing.php3? ... efc94b84f7

if this does not work check http://www.map24.de and type in start: Zürich destination: Grüningen

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Maria Carrasco · Post by **Maria Carrasco** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:47 am

Thanks again Chris. I have done some internet searches for Grueningen but there isn't much info out there (at least in English) . . . So I'm still not sure of some logistics- namely -- How far is Grueningen from Zurich by train?

We're flying into Zurich on EasyJet on Thursday early a.m. Thinking we will spend that day and night there and then venture closer to the race locale by Friday night. Probably train to Grueningen from Zurich and stay close Fri, Sat, Sun. Returning home from Zurich on Monday 10:55 a.m.

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:09 am

Grueningen is very small, so there are not many hotels or bed and breakfasts, but I think it will not be a problem to find a place to stay, The Swiss are very hospitable people by the way, so maybe you may find a place at a skaters house. You come here everyday anyway? I will post info as soon as I have it myself.

Now:

there is one Hotel very close to Grueningen that offers deals to contest skaters:

Hotel Uster
http://www.hotelilluster.ch
about 10 km from Grueningen
The race site can be reached easily.
Prices:
Single 98 SFR
Double 128 SFR
Triple 165 SFR

includes breakfast

Reservations must be made in advance during the following 2-3 days, because there will be a major bicycle race in the area (Tour de Suisse) on the 23rd of June.

When making a reservation please mention the Slalom Skateboard Contest and the name RADOVANOVIC

Jadranko RADOVANOVIC can also make the reservation for you if you email him:

jadranko_r@bluewin.ch

There are also many small towns near Grueningen. If you use http://www.google.ch and search for the following town names and "HOTEL" you will find many adresses:

Hotel Rapperswil
Hotel Rüti
Hotel Uster
Hotel Zürich
Hotel Gossau
Hotel Wetzikon

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Maria Carrasco · Post by **Maria Carrasco** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:17 am

Wow -- it's almost that time. Are there any other lodging recommendations for the area near the race site? We are actually leaving for London on June 12 so I'll need to make some reservations soon. Thanks for any suggestions!

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:43 am

There are photos from the "Bunker" on the homepage now. see "accommodations"

it is for free, please leave the place like you find it.

Bring a sleeping bag.

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Fri May 30, 2003 8:55 am

Hi John.

I think we also wanted to split the Giant slalom into two catergories. It makes sense.
There will be racer meetings before the races start to once again state the rules and make sure everyone understands.

I will maybe be in Switzerland from the Thursday on because it is a holiday here and I have already taken the Friday off. It depends a little if Vlad wants to fly into Germany on the Friday.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Thu May 29, 2003 4:29 pm

John, this year we will not be very strict on what will be considered ISSA competitions or not. If it's big enough and gather enough of people from different countries it will get a high status. For Greuningen this is not a problem.

If you are thinking about rules see the ISSA rules as general guidelines for organizers. The final rules for competitions are always up to the competition organizers to decide. If you are concerned about any specific thing here you must ask the origanizers. You can't take for granted that the ISSA guidelines will be followed to the point. If any confusion may occur that they have not thought of hopefully the ISSA guidelines will have an imoportant role though.

If you are thinking about future ISSA world ranking points this competition in Switzerland will probably be the one with the highest status for 2003 in Europe.

Once the ISSA World ranking is up and running for next year hopefully we wil be able to decide the status of competitions in advance.

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John Gilmour · Post by **John Gilmour** » Thu May 29, 2003 2:42 pm

Will this event be considered an ISSA event this year?

Also will there be any pre race meetings and so forth? I just would loike to know what dates are best to book.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:31 pm

Very good news about splitting skaters into two different course setttings (Pro and Am) for Tight slalom.

Is this also done for Giant slalom?

For giant slalom it is generally not as critical since it's easier to control speed. But that doesn't mean you can't have 2 different result lists afterwards. One for Pro's and one for Am's.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Thu May 29, 2003 12:21 pm

I have found some cheap air tickets to Geneve.

Is there anyone in Geneve going to the race in Zurich on Thursday or Friday?

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Wed May 28, 2003 12:23 pm

In the news:

There is a advertisement film for the race which will be shown on national TV in Switzerland the week before the race.
You find it in the German part of the site http://www.pscontest.ch at "werbespot". Windoze media player needed.

Also in the News:

Tickets for the Party can be purchased in advance:

Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon

Time Out Sport Shop, Uster

Rollladen, Zuerich

There have been a lot of inquiries from people who want to race but think the registered racers, especially those from abroad are too advanced.
Some of them are Pro Skaters who race since more than 2 decades.

Therefor we decided to split into two categories Pro and Am. There will be two seperate races.

All those who are not too advanced are encouraged to come and compete and all are welcome!

Vorverkaufsstellen für die Party stehen fest. Ab dem 2. Juni sind die Tickets an folgenden stellen erhältlich:

Tommy Thompson, Wetzikon

Time Out, Sport Shop, Uster

Rollladen, Zürich

22.05.2003

Es haben sich Leute gemeldet, die gerne am Contest fahren möchten, jedoch glauben dass die Fahrer aus dem Ausland zu stark sind für sie.
Die Fahrer aus dem Ausland sind wirklich Profi Skater, einige von Ihnen betreiben diese Sportart auch seit ca. 30 Jahren.

Deswegen werden wir auch zwischen Profi und Amateur unterscheiden. Es wird zwei verschiedene Wertungen geben.

Also auch die dies nicht so gut können, ihr seid herzlich willkommen !!

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Thu May 22, 2003 12:56 am

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Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Wed May 21, 2003 7:21 pm

Hi Maria and Richie,

there will be info on lodging available on the website http://www.pscontest.ch in a few days.

Attractions on the way? Wow. There are a lot!
What are you looking for? Some sightseeing? Americans usually look for old stuff like buildings and stuff. Do you like that too? You should defenitely check out Zurich City and the lake, it is beautiful.
You could also check out Engelberg, it has a glacier you can take a gondola up to.

There is a lot. I suggest buying a visitor guide for the long flight.

See you soon, and ask us whatever you consider important.

Maria Carrasco · Post by **Maria Carrasco** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:21 pm

Yes Chris -- it is confirmed -- we have plane tickets!! Decided that the new car could wait and we are applying the "down payment" to this trip instead . . . Also treating it as a belated wedding anniversary trip of sorts too.

We are both so looking forward to this trip and racing with all of you. Well actually, Richy "Brown Bomber" will be racing and of course, I will be shooting video . . .

Our journey will start in London and we will race at Brands Hatch. Later in the week, we are planning to hop the EasyJet to Zurich for the rest of our trip and of course the weekend of racing. Any tips on lodging in Switzerland? Now that I have the airfare arranged, it's time to iron out all the other details. Any info about local attractions we should consider would be great too. We've never been to Switzerland before so can't wait!

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Tue May 20, 2003 11:30 am

That should not be a problem I think.
Vlad, if you only find a flight to a German destination which is cheaper (could be, because flights to Switzerland are expensive, I don´t know why) we could arrange a meeting and take you with us. I will maybe drive down on the Wednesday before the race because it is a holiday here and I will take the Friday off of work.

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Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Tue May 20, 2003 2:33 am

Cheap flights to Zurich? Anyone know any? Around $500?
Thanks!

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:51 pm

The flyers are in this post:

viewtopic.php?topic=371&forum=85&3

I suggest we just use this post here in the future to avoid confusion and info getting lost.

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Sun May 18, 2003 12:11 pm

Maria, dark channels have informed me that you have booked the flights! This is great.

Register the Brown Bomber on the website at http://www.pscontest.ch

That will look great!

see you soon,

chris

Maria Carrasco · Post by **Maria Carrasco** » Wed May 14, 2003 3:47 pm

Sounds like a really great time! Working on travel arrangements now for the Brown Bomber and his trusty sidekick with the camera always rolling . . . ha ha Really hoping to make it to this one!

Joachim Leonhardt · Post by **Joachim Leonhardt** » Thu May 08, 2003 9:07 pm

Thank you Chris good to know more about the course and the road.

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Thu May 08, 2003 8:00 am

The course description on http://www.pscontest.ch is now complete with photos of the surface for the wheel fanatics. It is smoother than it looks.

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Sat May 03, 2003 7:48 pm

Here are the flyers for the Grueningen race:

Thanks for the help Adam!

John Gilmour · Post by **John Gilmour** » Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:56 pm

I signed up and will get there. Anyone know any particularly good airfare deals?

I'm sorry to ask what it will be like- course wise but I just want to make sure I have an accurate idea of what to expect so I can bring what is needed.

Wesley Tucker published a course for the Folly Beach course and I was able to use the board I had planned- this greatly simplified what I had to carry.

Chris Eggers · Post by **Chris Eggers** » Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:58 pm

John,

first of all we will not publish any course in advance, because it takes away some tension. It should be some kind of surprise, don´t you think?

Regarding the pitch: it is not much, you will have to pump. Hard.

If you take 3 hard pushes on top you will be too fast to step off and run it out at the bottom though.
I will maybe go to Switzerland a few weeks befor the race if I find the time and give a short report again.

It will not be english slalom.

Like I said before something close to the Tunnel race, ask Sharon.

I will ask Jadranko for a surface photo with a bearing.

As for all the US skaters making the trip. it will be so cool to have you here, but you know, you´ll have to be able to adapt on a short notice to every course.

I can assure you, if the weather turns out as good as the years before and everything goes according to the plan of the organizers, it will be a great weekend. Looking forward to seeing you all!

Chris

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John Gilmour · Post by **John Gilmour** » Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:26 pm

Hi Chris- In the last decade not many Americans have made the trip to Europe to compete and that is a shame.

I would like to offer some advice to help change this.

If you were to publish the course layout I think many more Americans would consider making the trip.

I also hope that doing so might encourage American organizers to do the same for others traveling.
(it would help to reduce hte amount of gear carried)

I do not run English slalom nor do I have the gear for it- lest I tear an old soft s-camber from Bill Tways cold dead fingers.

So I am concerned to see what the minimum spacing will be measured center on center. If the course is 5.5 between the cones it is far easier for me than 5.5 on center. That being said- it is likely that there will be more UK skaters attending than USA skaters so the course should likely be set for the majority.

Also I noticed the hill does not have much pitch.

How fast would you roll at the bottom if you started with say 3 pushes and went straight the length of the course?

Can we have shot of a 608 bearing on the surface to show the surface quality?

I am just curious if the slalom hill will be anything like Hombrechtikon's amazing hill- or if the pitch will be much less.

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