"the dark side of the cone"

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:27 pm

Adam N is the reason why you have a choice Chris, he is the reason that slalomskateboarder.com exsists.

Even though this may be the reason this forum was created I don't fully agree to this comment. Even though the other forum would have worked well this forum would have been needed anyway. It's a different kind. Personally I almost never go to the other forum. I don't like that forum style. The way this forum works is why I'm here. On top of that I want to put my work and efforts with the time I have for an international forum not a Californian, French or any other. I'm not against them but I don't have time to run around in 5 forums. One is enough for me. So I selected this because it seemed to stand for the same philosophy as I did.

Chris Chaput · Post by **Chris Chaput** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:09 am

I thought that I was posting the Vlad thing in the "Dark" forum. I looked for it after I posted and "it wasn't there". I posted it again and it still wasn't there. I hit refresh and looked in the main forums and found nothing. I got a couple of auto-response emails saying that I was "watching" that forum.

I edited my earlier post to include the Vlad pix and then later on I looked and saw that a new topic had been created with my Vlad post. I re-edited my post to remove the Vlad pix.

There is a ghost in the machine.

Anyway, am I the first one to notice Vlad's little photoshop trick? I've done the same thing. I set back up the cones that I've knocked down in the picture.

Adam Trahan · Post by **Adam Trahan** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:49 am

...and the crowd *gasps.*

It is funny how TK's "Dark Side of the Cone" is the most popular thread here. I'm glad he came up with it. It's sort of a way to rip away, tounge in cheek.

Chris, as bad as things have gotten, ncdsa.com DID get things going, brought a lot of people together. So now it's time to help Adam N improve the site by policing yourself. Don't let people bait you.

The Jerry Springer analogy is funny but isn't it the Gong Show that they are promoting? You are confusing me.

p.s. Your original post about photoshop alteration in the Random Forum was a double post and the copy was put into the Thrash Can. We are now saving ALL edited/deleted posts, as few as they are in their original form for review if necessary.

Chris Chaput · Post by **Chris Chaput** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:24 am

Hey Man, I just assumed that the guy was an urban skating legend and so I looked him up in the Urban Dictionary and found the following definition.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gayrab

Actually I can't take credit for the name. Other people call him that and so I jumped on the bandwagon. I'm sure he won't mind. He's a fair and even tempered kind of guy.

The other site is now totally lame. The only thing that I can think of is that there may be a spike in the ratings due to the Jerry Springer-like nature of the audience. Seriously, would we even notice the guy if it weren't for the constant fighting? It's the only way that he can draw attention to himself and the fact that it ruins things for everyone else isn't a concern of his. One bad apple. At least there is a "janitor of the Pros" at races.

Chuck Gill · Post by **Chuck Gill** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:26 pm

...on "the other" site. Actually two things. I removed a certain cookie from my 'puter and lo, I can once again submit ratings. And I noticed a certain very innocent post I made is gone. I guess some people don't like me LOL.

It really sucks there the last few days.

Adam Trahan · Post by **Adam Trahan** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:17 am

Good post UR13.

Is that site really trying to clean things up for the advertisers? I think they should clean it up because it's a good challenge.

Skateboarding teaches me to challenge myself, to think for myself NOT to be a part of the crowd, especially a crowd that thinks it's cool. It reminds me of that DEVO song, "Were through with being cool." You know, even "cool" people can be really wrong. It's difficult to administer a web site. Adam N needs to understand no matter what he does, his little place is going to be popular. He should do as you say and either open the doors wide or fix the problem. It's good for(u)m to be realistic.

I tried to give him a few words of encouragement quite a while ago. I told him about php, how you could edit your posts and make the forum user configurable. I offered my opinion but was very much told that I should watch the way that I express myself with my words? I never understood that Soon afterward I was banned. My last name is banned there sort of like I have banned Ar_b's name here.

Here are some ideas that I think would work well for that site.

#1. There is so much GAY slander going on there, it's a goto thing. I read the other day something Mollica was refering to Adam Gayham's site or something like that. Mollica doesn't even know me. Chaput using Gayrab and well, these guys need to police themselves because the moderators aren't going to do it. The GAY slander thing needs to be way toned down.

#2. Remove the vote box. When you have a anonymous forum, and you give the anonymous a vote, it's going to be "MOB RULES." The vote box sort of promotes this right along with anonymous posting.

#3. The web master needs to take control of his own web site and pick level heads, people who have an even keel to moderate and make those people visible. Pay them a little of the proceeds of the advertising to do this. If you place responsible people in positions of moderation, making them accountable and visible for their actions, they will do a job and do it well.

#4. Remove Mollica's forum. You have a world skateboard slalom champion who often and openly talks of porn and pot like its no big deal blah blah blah... We are all a little twisted, we don't need to promote it and then try to "clean things up" at the same time. I don't know Kenny but I've read some pretty wierd stuff of his that I wouldn't want an impressionable 14 year old reading...

#5. Three warnings and your out? Great idea, time to see if it works.

That would be a good start and I'm not about to start up another web site, I could probably do it and do it well but it's way too much trouble. Adam N is the reason why you have a choice Chris, he is the reason that slalomskateboarder.com exsists. That in itself is as much tribute as I can pay the guy. I like the site but he has definately lost control. I think we all cringe at some of those posts. It's a really complex issue of promoting skateboarding. You make a forum where people can speak their mind then sell the popularity of the forum to advertisers. Then you try to change the way the forum works but that won't work because your changing what makes you popular in the first place. He has quite a challenge on his hands, I honestly hope to be able to read that site for a long time...

Here is a snippet from an interview and the URL to the interview with Attila Aszodi. I think he sums a lot up in these few sentances.

http://www.sk8mag.de/People/Attila_Aszodi/index-en.html

There are more contradictions to be found here than anywhere. Americans thrive on controversy, that is what makes this country tick. It is also an extremely homophobic society. People who are straight (not gay) make sure to let the rest know how straight they are. If you meet somebody new and you want to be friends with them, a lot of times they might wonder if you're gay instead of saying hey, let's be friends or what a nice person. You actually start thinking this way yourself, rather sad. I remember when I moved here, the way guys dressed was rather pathetic, this was before Ralph Lauren and Banana Republic come on the scene. There was no style, no attempt in wearing colors--pastels were practically outlawed, if you didn't follow a certain trend you were either gay or weird. In Europe this was never the case, people weren't afraid to express through their clothing. Sexuality plays a key figure here in the US--it is so hyped up in the media that you might think that America is an extremely open and comfortable country, sexually. But the pathetic reality is that sex is looked upon as something almost forbidden, there are so many laws that will put you in jail because you took your shirt off in public, or you made a false remark to a coworker, or you looked at somebody in a different way. You will never see nudity on TV, no topless commercials for soaps or shampoos. In Europe, people are comfortable with their sexuality, they don't mind showing their bodies, it is something natural and not weird--here it is something that is very suppressed. Yet, people more about sex and express more about sex in movies and music than any other country in the world. It is the strange and mysterious American paradox. I am still trying to understand it--somebody once told me that this general attitude traces back to the pilgrims who came to America- extremely prudent and conservative, their presence is still being felt around the country. You can think out loud but you cannot act out loud!

Just a few thoughts.

Take it easy.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:39 pm

In one regard I can understand Adam of ncdsa's policy on the ratings...but then reality hits and the more complicated he makes it with all the abuse/flag buttons, 3 strikes, etc... the more these situations are going to happen.

You either gotta leave ALL the doors open on the message board and what happens happens, no matter how sickening the content becomes...or be prepared to spend your entire day moderating the message board to make sure it meets your "regulations"....which Adam and his other moderators don't seem to be able (or want) to do. I don't blame them, we all have real jobs and such. However ncdsa is in limbo right now where they are trying to make it a nice place for advertisers and posters...but they don't have the time to properly do it so it becomes the state it is in now.

It is a shame because ncdsa was at one time so great. Without it 4 years ago I would never have learned half the stuff I did. Adam deserves a ton of respect for providing the community for all of us to talk in.

In the same regrd Adam T and Jani deserve alot of respect and thanks for providing another , much needed, outlet for us to talk in.

Add into it one specific troll that uses the school yard bully mentality of shouting down all those who disagree and when that doesn't work he calls you or emails you and threatens you..... and it becomes worst.

(I wonder how long it will take before this post gets copy/pasted onto NCDSA by the troll and he begins his school yard bully shout down...I'll start my stop watch now. Should I make it easier for you Arab and start posting in easily copy/pasted "quotes" so it is easier for you to play your games?)

Chuck Gill · Post by **Chuck Gill** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:37 am

Mr. trah_n...I tried to give you a "best of" vote just for making it onto "the other" board. After bouncing twice, I came to the conclusion I must be one of the two people "the other Adam" referred to as "losing their ratings privileges". If I am, it would appear I am not the one he contacted about it. I am guessing this has something to do with putting an "abuse" rating against a whopping two negative posts. Anyway, what I am trying to say is congratulations or something like that.

Adam Trahan · Post by **Adam Trahan** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:15 am

...ahh, you caught me.

Today I am adam trah_n.

I'm almost afraid to make a joke.

*grin*

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:56 am

Ot try my favorite. Get-ready-for-Paris-2004 programme must. Works the thum well.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:52 am

Wait! This is better. And cheaper too!

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:51 am

Wes, try this, it's cheap.

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:43 am

There are two kinds of sports in this world: the kind where you strip off everything to get comfortable and the kind where you spend a goodly portion of your life savings just to get ready to play.

The former are surfing, skateboarding, fishing and ultimate frisbee. The latter are anything in the snow, football, tennis and scuba diving. Personally, I like the no-frills sports.

If man was meant to play in the snow, he'd have a thick layer of blubber . . .

Wait. I forgot who reads this website.

Never mind.

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:43 pm

Sorry, I called Heff first. T

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:08 pm

No, no, no, no. I'm Hef.
All of y'all are the bitchy little old lady.

How's them feelings now?

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:22 pm

Wes, Comparing me to Heff did NOT hurt my feelings. T

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:15 pm

Hey, Joe,

I just got a call from some attorney wanting to know who was responsible for that "vile, disreputable, libelous, pustulent purveyor of pusillanimity called slalomskateboarder.com?" Something about wanting to serve a paper?

Could I get your address? I mean, after all, it does belong to you this month.

P.S. "Pustulent purveyor of pusillanimity." Let's see one of you neanderthals TOP THAT ONE this afternoon!

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:04 pm

I hurt TK's feelings.
Does that count?

John Gilmour · Post by **John Gilmour** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:55 pm

Actually to qualify to be rightfully edgy I think you have to be on the slalom injury list. I'm unbearable to be around when I'm injured...and not all that bearable when I'm okay.

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:44 pm

Joe, S'up. I'm edgy, unpredictable and into my own pleasure. I'm a PRO racer yo. Get it?

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:55 pm

I;m a slalom rubber necker.

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:02 pm

The people around here remind me of the little old lady who confronted Hugh Heffner one day.

"I think your magazine is disgusting, you filthy smut monger!"
"Well," said Hef, "what parts did you find disgusting?"
"All of it!" the snooty little bitch replied.

"Hmmmm," Hef mused, "then why didn't you quit looking at it after the first page?"

Terry Kirby · Post by **Terry Kirby** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:13 pm

Its ON..."Battle of the Wes'"

Each has a big brain.

One rides scraps taken from a construction site.
The other just stepped on modern gear after finally wearing out his small pivots racing in obscurity for the last 20 years.

One Drives an Z28 Camaro, the other, public transportation.

Both are single.....

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 6:33 am

On 2003-10-09 18:13, WesE wrote in Brian Parson's "Gay Skateboard Club Logo" topic in the DC Forum:

Wesley Tucker,
You don’t see Brian describing the night of his honeymoon.

Well, he told us. Where were you? Although the slide presentation was cool, I think it was the professionally made DVD that really put it over the top.

Why must you post information about your personal, intimate activities to our DC forum?

Because I damned well feel like it.

Wait a minute. "Intimate activities?" Somehow I never considered being in a stadium full of 85,000 drunken fans live on ESPN as "intimate." Wes, dude, if that's your idea of getting close and personal then I wanna party with YOU, big guy.

What you choose to watch in your own home is up to you, but we have standards here that you must respect.

Ah. You mean the MODERATOR making an issue of football and me responding to it? The STANDARDS that Brian the MODERATOR established? Talk to him. I just followed his lead.

By the way, Wes, we all look forward to hearing all the details of your personal life. Will you let us know as soon as you get one?

Standards? Jesus, Mary and Joseph with Fred and Ethel next door, Wes, it's fucking SKATEBOARDING. Lighten up before your head eXpLoDeS from all the stress.

Henry Julier · Post by **Henry Julier** » Thu Oct 09, 2003 5:00 am

Yes.

Oh Jesus.

Dan Mitchell · Post by **Dan Mitchell** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 2:10 am

Hilarious, Joe

Henry, do you realize that that image will probably follow you well into your 40's !!!

HAHAHAHA!!!

Glenn S · Post by **Glenn S** » Wed Oct 08, 2003 1:41 am

Make sure you click on Joe Iacovelli's name at the bottom of the screen for this month of October.

Poor Henry J..........I bet he thought his fifteen minutes of fame would be different :razz:

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:52 am

I would love to make West Virginia,but unfortunately this is our busy season in the ICU. Florida might be a possibility. For now I plan to practice alot harder for 2004 upcoming season. I plan to attack the Luna Slalom Jam with a vengence next year. Eddy Tejas Outlaw.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:07 am

holy cheep chit eddy, that chit is da' chit

i'm sippin' on some right now

can you make west virginia? if not, let's get byrddogg and clifton to hook up for a session in the florida panhandle this winter

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:59 am

I prefer Tequila Coralejo Reposado myself. Eddy Texas Outlaw.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:36 am

and i'm gonna drink bacardi.....

Henry Julier · Post by **Henry Julier** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:11 am

It's my birthday.

Slappy Maxwell · Post by **Slappy Maxwell** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 2:46 am

Bradyscabs, you aren't ignoring the above challenge???

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:07 pm

You don't enoy me.

I can't wait till Paris.

Do stop by DC if you can. We have a place for you to crash.

Vodka?

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:36 pm

Ok Vlad. I will stop enoying you. I just wanted to make sure there where no way I could persuade you into coming to Morro Bay. This was of course very selfish since I was only thinking of myself. For ME it would have been a lot more fun having your there.
Of course you shouldn't go if you don't feel for it. See you in Paris next then.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:18 pm

Ok, I read it again. You - go have fun at the Worlds. I - will wait for the next “Gruningen”. And if Chris Eggers makes a promise about the courses he made this year, I’ll blow off everything planned, get a $1000 ticket and be there.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:18 am

I can't see what's wrong with my story.

Step 1: He walked away last year after his first attempt on the "modern" course.

Step 2: He came to Gruningen this year thinking it was a "modern" course but it wasn't.

Now, return to my post and read again.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:25 pm

He walked away last year after his first attempt on the "modern" course. Concentrate on the right story please.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:15 am

Vlad wrote
"I choose the Ridolli's way. You know, the one guy who'd been spanking Luca not long ago....I just turn around and leave."

Well that sometimes can have its price. Ridoli came by Gruningen to say hello and he was very positive about the special slalom course. He admitted that it looked very good. Even for him. But he missed out because he wasn't ready when the opportunity came along.

Slappy Maxwell · Post by **Slappy Maxwell** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:33 am

On 2003-09-03 08:23, Brady Mitchell wrote:

Have I seen you slalom lately? Does that mean you don`t race?

And because a handful don`t agree with what I say, should I change be like them?

No, you haven't seen me slalom lately. Because you don't race!

Wake up call. Noooobodddy agrees with what you say.

Here's the challenge.

You won't post here and I won't post here until we race. The winner can then continue to post.

Or...

You can start a forum here and have just FIVE of the 296 registered people post in your thread saying they find your posts enjoyable by the end of this month.

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:48 pm

On 2003-09-03 14:59, Jack Smith wrote:
Vlad,

. . . People keep telling me that you're a great guy, I'm having a hard time believing it.

That's really weird. Here on the East Coast we always hear the EXACT SAME THING about a certain skater on the West Coast.

As they say, I guess you just have to be there . . . or here, or whatever.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:48 pm

Adam, it was a mutual desision not to continue with this.

I know that you know that I know...

Nothing personal. I'm frOstrated with entree-level courses at world-level comps.

I should/could have gone to Gruningen, the Farm and GA...The choices are still many.

It's all good.

My day's over. Good night.

Adam Trahan · Post by **Adam Trahan** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 10:39 pm

Jack, *here we are all equal, this is TK's "Dark Side of the Cone" and you are now a part of it. I think your dig on Vlad is pretty weak. Can't you come up with something a little heavier?

*Read this thread with toungue in cheek.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:27 pm

Heavily edited post.

Enough is enough.

[ This Message was edited by: vlad popov on 2003-09-03 15:42 ]

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:04 pm

Edited.

I can't be greater then the greatest and smarter then the smartest.

Your question - I don't understand. Therefore, it can't be answered.

[ This Message was edited by: Vlad Popov on 2003-09-03 15:43 ]

Jack Smith · Post by **Jack Smith** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:59 pm

Vlad,

What are you so afraid of? I asked you some questions in a civil manner, yet you refuse to answer them. All you do is try to do is impress your "fans" with your so-called wit.

People keep telling me that you're a great guy, I'm having a hard time believing it.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:30 pm

When "high society" stops by this swamp and reads all this filth, I have this feeling like I stole something and need to confess…but don’t want to.

Are we, who post here, worthy? Is it ok for the mere mortals to express their feelings in a way they want to express 'em in front of the slalom gods?

I would like to invite the powerfull and the high-life slalom pros to elsewhere...where clean-cut discussions and suggestions are exchanged and people are happy with the style, organization, order.

It’s dangerous around here…When shit flies everywhere, it’s hard to keep er collards white for long...Ya know?…So if you decide to stick around then duck ones in a while, dear Sir. As in- bend like a mere slalom racer when he’s forced to screw around on a shitty slalom course.

He who can’t walk…will likely not fly…So don’t try to munch on my “anger” if you don’t/can’t understand it. Or you’ll look like a chicken trying to take off…for 20 minutes straight.

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This here is the dark side. It’s soo...oh…easy…to feel like a prince of light…but have you done enough to even be like one?

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:59 pm

Opps, I burped. I usually don't do that online....

It must be all that LB-SL stuff coming out of me. Good thing it found the right hole this time....

Pardone mooAh...

Couldda been a little worst. Hmmm...I'm turning red... All that profanity... Vulgar stuff...

The deeds are good. I'm a freaking angel. In comparison... My bitch will deliver it to other forums.

Vlad Popov · Post by **Vlad Popov** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:50 pm

I can't really feel your tong, Chris. Do you want people of the nckkk to know partial truth? Again?

MMMMMMMM-HHHHHHH-AAAAAAAA, that's better.

Thank you.

Care for a napkin? Cigarett? I'll bring you some cold OJ. Be right back...

Jack Smith · Post by **Jack Smith** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:49 pm

Vlad,

I totally respect your slalom skateboarding ability. You are the fastest TS racer I have seen since Piercy, and unlike most who post here and on the other site, I actually saw BP race numerous times.

Most of the time I enjoy reading your insightful and well written posts. Lately your posts are filled with hate and profanity. From what I gather there is "one" person who gives you a hard time about your slalom course preferences. Are there more?

I know that I will miss not having you compete in Morro Bay, many others will also.

Jack

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"the dark side of the cone"

That's where it went!

Losing Control

A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The (Slalom) Forum...

Adam Who?

This feels better!

Hmm....