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On 10/8/2003 HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING wrote in from 67.23.xxx.xxx:
Man, you guys are really going at it...Arab, you are my bro and we go back many, many years. I don't know why you and Chaput can't come to some sort of mutual respect for one and other...and stop this tit for tat bullcrap! You are both great all around riders...and Chaput is not only a multiple World Champion in more than one discipline of skateboarding (Freestyle and Speedboarding) but also puts his ass and pocketbook on the line to further the great aray of products out there so asses like us have a variety of choices when it comes to equipment to choose from.
I am grateful for that, and I personally think the both of you are really great characters that I have had the pleasure to know and ride with.
It is true that 3dM wheels have won more races than any other wheel; but Abec 11 also makes some killer wheels to round out one's quiver. Let's not forget that I rode Abec 11's to victory at the Bear last year and this year as well as 3dm Avila's (different runs on each) and Olson rode Abec 11 greens to victory to capture The much coveted Kona Banked slalom race two years in a row on Abec 11's. I have yet to try the new Gumballs, but can't wait to get a couple sets!
According to my sales reports many, many people ride Deathbox decks set up with Abec 11 No Schools and love the ride!
I, myself, reserve the right to ride whatever board, trucks or wheels will work on whatever course or terrain we are racing on; you never know when you come across a course where Gumballs are THE wheel that day! I know I'll have my set ready, as well as my 3dm's, OJ's, Road Riders (4's, and Hesters) and Abecs, Gravity wheels, Cherry bombs and more!!
I will also have all my quiver of decks ready: my Pockit Pistols, my Turners, my Deathboxs, my Fibreflexs, my Dregs, and my Ick Sticks!!! (Now if I can just get my hands on that Bonita Roe that Gareth and Hester promised me last year!)
Let's try to be respectful of each others inventions, and products and not limit ourselves to becoming an "only game in town player" Diversity is good, so is healthy competion between brands, teams, crews, and competitors (even coasts; if it's handled correctely.)
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It does appear Eric Groff's personality disorder popped up again.
No surprise. He was caught at the other site for posting under fake names (with email addresses) giving himself props and bashing the people he hates.
The 'new' search capability made it really easy to figure out he was 'Jason Martinez - Evangelist & Manufacturer', 'TC - Texas Clem', 'Sk8dude', and 'Rodney King'
The spelling of 'begineer' really gives it away. Some of those posts where he was praising himself are a little creepy.
I also love how the post that pointed it all out was deleted and all of his other personalities were moved to the 'Guest Book'!
I guess Sybil is now a better name than Eric Groff.
No surprise. He was caught at the other site for posting under fake names (with email addresses) giving himself props and bashing the people he hates.
The 'new' search capability made it really easy to figure out he was 'Jason Martinez - Evangelist & Manufacturer', 'TC - Texas Clem', 'Sk8dude', and 'Rodney King'
The spelling of 'begineer' really gives it away. Some of those posts where he was praising himself are a little creepy.
I also love how the post that pointed it all out was deleted and all of his other personalities were moved to the 'Guest Book'!
I guess Sybil is now a better name than Eric Groff.
entire thread found...<a href=viewtopic.php?topic=347&forum=106> here</a>On 2002-12-02 16:40, A-RAB wrote:
Adam,
You have been blackballed from NCDSA because you tried to spread the good word of Slalom, Dont you know that NCDSA is a monopoly and if you cant play by the rules you cant play the game. Rules..... its a F%ckin chat room gimme a break. If there is somebody that is spreading the good word of slalom then power to ya!!!!! Why hasnt everyother website that caters to slalom been removed from NCDSA. Because they advertize, maybe you should advertise on NCDSA then you could get back on?
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On 11/12/2002,
Dave G (Mountain State Slalom Skate race organizer) wrote in from 208.29.xxx.xxx:
"Grooves on a urethane wheel, do very little! Urethane and water don't mix! If you want to channel the water out from under the wheel ,than you can try to create a trough effect to the sides. But it is still a futile attempt. Rubber wheels are the gripiest in those conditions!"
Interesting comments from the organizer of a race that was held in the rain.
(Emphasis mine)
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Dave G (Mountain State Slalom Skate race organizer) wrote in from 208.29.xxx.xxx:
"Grooves on a urethane wheel, do very little! Urethane and water don't mix! If you want to channel the water out from under the wheel ,than you can try to create a trough effect to the sides. But it is still a futile attempt. Rubber wheels are the gripiest in those conditions!"
Interesting comments from the organizer of a race that was held in the rain.
(Emphasis mine)
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"I do get weary of racers telling me what racers need. Please remember I was a racer once also."
I found this quote at http://www.slalomskateboarder.com It was posted by an individual who has done a lot for the sport of slalom skateboarding. Obviously is/was written under duress.
I found this quote at http://www.slalomskateboarder.com It was posted by an individual who has done a lot for the sport of slalom skateboarding. Obviously is/was written under duress.
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A double daily double:
Quote of the day #1:
Both quotes are by Anatoly Matsukevich (ISSA best ranked skater in 1994 based on the results of the 3 previous years): First is from Slalom! # 16, August 1992, pg. 18. Second is from a telephone conversation, June 2002:
1. "Slalom will last forever"
2. "Slalom is a dead sport"
Quote of the day #2:
"I will never race competitively again."
"I WILL continue to race - but only on my secret hills in my secret area on my secret boards - and only for the pure joy of pumping."
12/8/2000, NCDSA.com slalom forum
Paul Dunn. 2002 FCR Series Champion, Turner Team Captain.
Quote of the day #1:
Both quotes are by Anatoly Matsukevich (ISSA best ranked skater in 1994 based on the results of the 3 previous years): First is from Slalom! # 16, August 1992, pg. 18. Second is from a telephone conversation, June 2002:
1. "Slalom will last forever"
2. "Slalom is a dead sport"
Quote of the day #2:
"I will never race competitively again."
"I WILL continue to race - but only on my secret hills in my secret area on my secret boards - and only for the pure joy of pumping."
12/8/2000, NCDSA.com slalom forum
Paul Dunn. 2002 FCR Series Champion, Turner Team Captain.
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I LOVE running cones... That said, it CAN be gruelling work!
I skated over 30lbs off my 49 year old body, starting with La Costa 2001 last November. I had just gotten back into skateboarding a couple months earlier.
I think the fun can actually drive you beyond your normal tolerance for pain, and you end up dripping wet, huffing and puffing back up the hill, trying to make cleaner, faster lines down the hill.
Sometimes there's a gab session taking place, and I'm taking 2 and 3 runs between every other single run by others. People are laughing at my huffing and puffing (carefully synchronized with my pumps thank you!) I get swept away with the momentum of the session and that's FUN (and PAIN!)
I skated over 30lbs off my 49 year old body, starting with La Costa 2001 last November. I had just gotten back into skateboarding a couple months earlier.
I think the fun can actually drive you beyond your normal tolerance for pain, and you end up dripping wet, huffing and puffing back up the hill, trying to make cleaner, faster lines down the hill.
Sometimes there's a gab session taking place, and I'm taking 2 and 3 runs between every other single run by others. People are laughing at my huffing and puffing (carefully synchronized with my pumps thank you!) I get swept away with the momentum of the session and that's FUN (and PAIN!)
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John and Vlad,
Come to think about it you left out one more important thing from your skills lists.
Since I couldn't put any of your skills to myself I started to wonder... "Why am I doing slalom?". Well, the answer is to have fun. That's the skill I would like to add. To be able to have fun with it.
Come to think about it you left out one more important thing from your skills lists.
Since I couldn't put any of your skills to myself I started to wonder... "Why am I doing slalom?". Well, the answer is to have fun. That's the skill I would like to add. To be able to have fun with it.
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John, you left out my favorites: Da Image! Da Style! Da Lukes!
Ok, here is another Quote of the Day:
Not long ago I was practicing GS near my house. A teenage boy comes up to me and starts asking questions. I told him about the proper use of the skateboard (slalom), different courses, different styles, boards, blah, blah, blah.
“So what’s this one?”
“This one is a Giant Slalom course”.
“Why giant?”
“ It’s called Giant because the distance between the cones is noticeably greater then in Tight Slalom”
“Giant slalom looks tight!”
Go figure…
Ok, here is another Quote of the Day:
Not long ago I was practicing GS near my house. A teenage boy comes up to me and starts asking questions. I told him about the proper use of the skateboard (slalom), different courses, different styles, boards, blah, blah, blah.
“So what’s this one?”
“This one is a Giant Slalom course”.
“Why giant?”
“ It’s called Giant because the distance between the cones is noticeably greater then in Tight Slalom”
“Giant slalom looks tight!”
Go figure…
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Well for skills required slalom is much more than you would think at first glance.
Power, strength, agility, balance, coordination, timing, speed, quickness (not the same)are helpful to the racer
Then there is
Equipment Knowledge and set up
Tuning
Wheel truck and board selection
Course strategy
Strategy against your opponent
Criddleing- to do or not do
Timing and qualification strategies
weather
Bearing cleaning- when to pop in the fast ones/
training regimen
Then there is dealing with the course
1. the fall line of the course
2. The straightest line through the course (not necessarily the same thing)
3. choosing the right blend of the two.
4. The line your hips must follow
5. The line your board must follow
6. Controlled slides
7 power on or off for technical sections
8. Tucking/being aerodynamic (when is it worth it)
9. Dealing with time advantages and disadvantages in the second race.
10. saving energy
11. To hold back or not....ie when to disclose your cards.
12.Maintaining your balance when behind in time.
13. Going into the mind of the course setter.
So many funny things that keep this simple sport interesting.
Power, strength, agility, balance, coordination, timing, speed, quickness (not the same)are helpful to the racer
Then there is
Equipment Knowledge and set up
Tuning
Wheel truck and board selection
Course strategy
Strategy against your opponent
Criddleing- to do or not do
Timing and qualification strategies
weather
Bearing cleaning- when to pop in the fast ones/
training regimen
Then there is dealing with the course
1. the fall line of the course
2. The straightest line through the course (not necessarily the same thing)
3. choosing the right blend of the two.
4. The line your hips must follow
5. The line your board must follow
6. Controlled slides
7 power on or off for technical sections
8. Tucking/being aerodynamic (when is it worth it)
9. Dealing with time advantages and disadvantages in the second race.
10. saving energy
11. To hold back or not....ie when to disclose your cards.
12.Maintaining your balance when behind in time.
13. Going into the mind of the course setter.
So many funny things that keep this simple sport interesting.
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After many hours of rambling philosophical road-trip discussion with John Kim, driving home to the S.F. bay area after the Hood River race... (I'll attribute the quote to both of us since we were *so* rambling.)
"Slalom is a martial art!"
To attain knowledge of one level of the discipline only reveals a deeper level leading to yet another level. Each revealed layer of the onion reveals another mystery.
It's cwaaaaazzzy man!
"Slalom is a martial art!"
To attain knowledge of one level of the discipline only reveals a deeper level leading to yet another level. Each revealed layer of the onion reveals another mystery.
It's cwaaaaazzzy man!
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Pardon my “loose” interpretation. The meaning is preserved 100%.
A young guy who just started speedskating asks a speedkating world champion:
“When is it going to get easier?”
As a reply he gets:
“It will NEVER get easier, you’ll just go faster”.
Having recently discovered slalom I have also discovered other parts of the slalom package, such as a compulsory rigorous training and set-up tuning. It was really hard in the beginning, and I hoped it’d get easier with time. I know now that the above-mentioned story, that was sent to me by Andrew Muzikin of Russia, is very true for slalom. It is not getting any easier, but it does get faster.
Vlad.
A young guy who just started speedskating asks a speedkating world champion:
“When is it going to get easier?”
As a reply he gets:
“It will NEVER get easier, you’ll just go faster”.
Having recently discovered slalom I have also discovered other parts of the slalom package, such as a compulsory rigorous training and set-up tuning. It was really hard in the beginning, and I hoped it’d get easier with time. I know now that the above-mentioned story, that was sent to me by Andrew Muzikin of Russia, is very true for slalom. It is not getting any easier, but it does get faster.
Vlad.
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Quote of the day...
"More TS photos assembled in one place than anywhere on earth! There's nothing like a twisted up European Slalom racer, except a twisted up chick European Slalom racer."
Henry Hester on SlalomSkateboarder.com
Henry Hester on SlalomSkateboarder.com