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I run a DS107 front and rear on both my Chicken Wing and my Roe Eldorado P/S and they work great for those boards.
On my Brown Bomber and the TS/Hybrid I run DS107 fronts and SpliFire rears
On my Unlimited its a DS107 front and Chindy Offset rear......
all perform well, after our next runs of hangars I will put a DS90 front/rear on the TS and move the 107 to the rear of the Bomber.....
They all work all the way around...I like the 107's a little more because I am 6'3 240 lbs and the 90 fells too small for me for big stuff, but It feels great and is nimble as an F1 car thru tight cones...
I run a DS107 front and rear on both my Chicken Wing and my Roe Eldorado P/S and they work great for those boards.
On my Brown Bomber and the TS/Hybrid I run DS107 fronts and SpliFire rears
On my Unlimited its a DS107 front and Chindy Offset rear......
all perform well, after our next runs of hangars I will put a DS90 front/rear on the TS and move the 107 to the rear of the Bomber.....
They all work all the way around...I like the 107's a little more because I am 6'3 240 lbs and the 90 fells too small for me for big stuff, but It feels great and is nimble as an F1 car thru tight cones...
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SHANE,
Hybrid and GS benefit from the wider DS107. I have one in stock at the moment. Black crinkle coat finish like on the website <a href="http://www.asphaltplayground.com/trucks ... und.com</a>
Hybrid and GS benefit from the wider DS107. I have one in stock at the moment. Black crinkle coat finish like on the website <a href="http://www.asphaltplayground.com/trucks ... und.com</a>
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hybrid/gs
Gary...which split should I use for hybrid and or gs. (on the front) I dont like the tight stuff at all. (well, slalom anyway)hehe...It needs to be able to go well w/my roe unlimited and a future 36" gs deck. Thanx.
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Re: narrow rears
Confessed today, confirmed in a college bar, Athens, GA, two weeks ago.Gary Fluitt wrote:I sort of like my rears wide, but that's a personal thing.
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"I remind you of your dad? Is that good or bad?"
Sorry Gary, it was too easy.
Rode with some of the new kids in CT last night. They were rocking the DS and splits, throwing dust in the turns but not losing traction. Thanks for making great, affordable gear.
Joe
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narrow rears
I sort of like my rears wide, but that's a personal thing.
Joe, we are milling a narrow rear (90mm on a 35 degree base).
You can acheive the same thing by using your front on the back, with a 10 degree khiro wedge, set negative (fat end of wedge facing middle of board). This is how I'm running all my splits now.
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Joe, we are milling a narrow rear (90mm on a 35 degree base).
You can acheive the same thing by using your front on the back, with a 10 degree khiro wedge, set negative (fat end of wedge facing middle of board). This is how I'm running all my splits now.
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Split Fire
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I put the Split-Fire 107 through some serious testing today. One word comes to mind - AWESOME. You guys have come up with some great trucks! Thank You.
SIMPLY the best!
Cheers!
Gareth
I put the Split-Fire 107 through some serious testing today. One word comes to mind - AWESOME. You guys have come up with some great trucks! Thank You.
SIMPLY the best!
Cheers!
Gareth
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well, I figured out what it was. the axle is screwed in, and it is unscrewing. the only way to screw it in is to screw on the bolt, but the direction to screw the axle in is loosening the bolt, so the bolt comes off and I can't screw it any tighter. Should I use thread lock so it cant come out?
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Splitfires
Sounds like a plan Gary. Cept unlike old times I'm sure you'll smoke me! Ahhh...Colorado in June...
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Finally set up the one I got from you at the worlds Gary...They rock! Its on my new cut-away Gareth made for me. Please hurry on the 90 mm version, I am feeling the need for more toys.
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I dropped off a case box of PBR carrying a load of hangars at the Powder coater last night...they are coming soon guys. Gary will have a media blasted hangar in the next few days, so you all will finally get to see a picture of them. Thanks for all the interest in what we do, hopefully the will be ready mid-next week. Sweet dreams, and do yourself a favor and get some white Khiro barrel bushings, these hangars were built around those specs, and of all ive tried they definately work the best (and entirely stable, even at G/S speeds for my 240lb fatass)
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to keep it split-fire related- you slid at least twice in that footage on the TS and Gilmore commented on it as he was filming. The split fire will keep that back end a lot more sticky than a stock tracker.
You need to bend you're knees a bit more in the tight. Get a little bit lower and you will get a rounder turn. This will slow you down a bit, but it will clean up your run and make you faster (cleaner) in the long run. That's what I could see from the video anyway. If you come to the Colorado Cup I will give some more details to work on.
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You need to bend you're knees a bit more in the tight. Get a little bit lower and you will get a rounder turn. This will slow you down a bit, but it will clean up your run and make you faster (cleaner) in the long run. That's what I could see from the video anyway. If you come to the Colorado Cup I will give some more details to work on.
Gary
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Tom,
I generally don't like to post pics until I can fulfill orders, but in this case since we are milling the trucks this week it's probably not premature. I see what we can get posted here in the next day or so.
I've got some video of you in the TS at Morro Bay at Worlds. Looking fast. THat was a hard course. Good job.
Gary
I generally don't like to post pics until I can fulfill orders, but in this case since we are milling the trucks this week it's probably not premature. I see what we can get posted here in the next day or so.
I've got some video of you in the TS at Morro Bay at Worlds. Looking fast. THat was a hard course. Good job.
Gary
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Split-Fire
Took my new Split-Fire for my first test runs today.
Feels great on the board, nice response.
Got any pics of a front truck prototype?
Feels great on the board, nice response.
Got any pics of a front truck prototype?
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ETA is unsure, but I'm hoping for about 6 weeks. Will keep you posted on this site.
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well, i dont think that "hunch" you say you have is hurting your times to much though aye?
Thanks for the feedback...i'll tinker a bit. I've found that stimulators "snap" right into that bushing seat you had machined in the hanger...nice touch....i'll try the harder Khiros and mix it up a little.
Happy New Year
Thanks for the feedback...i'll tinker a bit. I've found that stimulators "snap" right into that bushing seat you had machined in the hanger...nice touch....i'll try the harder Khiros and mix it up a little.
Happy New Year
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Hey Chris,
The rationale behind the soft bushing is really a question of rebound. Harder bushings just feel a bit dead to me. My 175lb frame seems to work bettter with softer bushings, but that's just me. I tend to hunch a bit too much and get most of my pump from the mid-section. I'm also coming off a couple of years on green stimulators which are really high rebound and fairly soft so it may be my familiarity with the softees that make them feel better. For GS I would run a harder bushing. Like Blue on Blue, or Blue and Yellow (Khiro).
As for TS and GS, I use the Split-Fire 107 on all of that, and Hybrid. I seem to have more success in Hybrid and TS, but I think my lack of success in GS is not a truck issue. I think it's a line issue. Hoping to do better in the GS this year.
The rationale behind the soft bushing is really a question of rebound. Harder bushings just feel a bit dead to me. My 175lb frame seems to work bettter with softer bushings, but that's just me. I tend to hunch a bit too much and get most of my pump from the mid-section. I'm also coming off a couple of years on green stimulators which are really high rebound and fairly soft so it may be my familiarity with the softees that make them feel better. For GS I would run a harder bushing. Like Blue on Blue, or Blue and Yellow (Khiro).
As for TS and GS, I use the Split-Fire 107 on all of that, and Hybrid. I seem to have more success in Hybrid and TS, but I think my lack of success in GS is not a truck issue. I think it's a line issue. Hoping to do better in the GS this year.
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Why the soft bushings in the rear?
Hey Gary....i noticed the lightweight bushings when i got mine and swapped them out with harder ones. But now i'm curious....is there an advantage with running such soft bushings in your splitfire?...It kinda goes against the rationale of running softees up front to steer and harder ones out back to generate a stronger pump. Thoughts?
Also, i'm sure you've run this truck for a while now. What have you had the best performance with on it, GS or TS? (not sure which board i'll have it mounted on in 05)
Also, i'm sure you've run this truck for a while now. What have you had the best performance with on it, GS or TS? (not sure which board i'll have it mounted on in 05)
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Now with Khiro
I did a lot of testing this fall with bushings, and though I love the old Tracker Stimulators, you have to grind the hell out of them to make them fit on a standard kingpin, and to reduce their mass enough to be really quick. So I went searching for a suitable replacement for the Stims and I found them in the second generation Khiro's. The first gen Khiro were pretty dead compared to the new pour. The current Khiro bushings feel just like a stimulator, but the fit is much better and the aluminum insert on the top bushing keeps the bushing inline with the kingpin during an extreme turn. So now I use the Khiro for the complete Split-Fire, a white barrel on bottom, and a blue cone on top. Lighter weight riders may prefer white on white. The truck also comes with a couple of 5mm tapered spacers that you can run on the inside of the axle for an effective width of 112mm.
I'm finding the Split-Fire to be quite flexible. New developments in the Spring...
I'm finding the Split-Fire to be quite flexible. New developments in the Spring...
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Hey Guys-
The Split-Fire is up on <a href="http://asphaltplayground.com/trucks.htm ... nd.com.</a> You can order it as a Complete with RTX and Khiros for $99, or as a hanger only for $89.
Comes with additional spacers. <br><img src="http://asphaltplayground.com/images/tru ... "><br><img src="http://asphaltplayground.com/images/tru ... anger2.jpg">
The Split-Fire is up on <a href="http://asphaltplayground.com/trucks.htm ... nd.com.</a> You can order it as a Complete with RTX and Khiros for $99, or as a hanger only for $89.
Comes with additional spacers. <br><img src="http://asphaltplayground.com/images/tru ... "><br><img src="http://asphaltplayground.com/images/tru ... anger2.jpg">
Thanks Paul and Steve,
Gary emailed me back immediately and sent a picture. He said he was in the process of updating his site www.asphaltplayground.com that day. Also that he was gunna have a 90mm version in the future. Looks like a great truck.
Here is a picture he sent me of just the hanger:

Gary emailed me back immediately and sent a picture. He said he was in the process of updating his site www.asphaltplayground.com that day. Also that he was gunna have a 90mm version in the future. Looks like a great truck.
Here is a picture he sent me of just the hanger:

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Yes, email Gary at sales@asphaltplayground.com and yes it is a TTC/Airflow(more like an Airflow) and yes, I am buying a 2nd one because I reelly, really like mine a lot. Adios-Paul
I just dig slalom!
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better TTC = Airflow ... better Airflow = Splitfire
I saw it at Worlds. It's basically an improved Airflow. The pivot is more ball-like, the axles are a better metal and the hanger has some superfluous metal removed.
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Asphalt Playground Split-Fire 107mm
I got one of Gary Fluitts Asphalt Playground SplitFire 107mm's and it's great if you like TTC kinda trucks.It comes with nicely aligned 8mm axles, raised bearing seats 90 degrees to the axle, an improved interface of the hanger and bushings and improved fit of the pivot into the baseplate (when used with a Tracker RT-X). The traction and feel of it is good on hybrid and tight courses. The pivot is an allen head machine screw of hard steel already rounded for the pivot cup but it still has the hex hole. I filled mine with JB Weld metal epoxy, let it cure 24 hours, put it into my electric drill, clamped the drill onto my workbench, used a metal file to lathe it all to a matched round surface, and finished it with emery cloth. It works fine without the added touch to the pivot, I'm just that way. Great truck, I'll probably buy another. Adios-Paul
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