The 1st Annual Downhillbillies Dixie Cup November 5,6, 2005

Slalom Skateboarding in the Southeastern U.S.A

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Post by Wesley Tucker » Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:33 am

Chris,

Tilley's is maybe a 1/4 mile from the motel. You can skate down there and spend all your money and be back in 15 minutes.

By the way, did you read Marion's post on NCDSA? There's a BBQ buffet about 10 miles up the interstate. It's called FATBOYS.

We gotta check it out!

Tway is required to bring some stickers for the joint.
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Post by Chris Favero » Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:16 am

WT,sounds good.i wnat to get a shirt at the harley place though,i got an '02 wideglide.aint got enough balls to ride it all the way there,i'm saving that for hobby hill.see you soon.cf
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Friday Night Not So Outlaw Outlaw Bar B Que Run!

Post by Wesley Tucker » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:56 am

THIS IS AN UNOFFICIAL OFFICIAL DIXIE CUP EVENT!

I just spoke with CNova and he tells me he and CFavero are planning on getting to Statesville relatively early (Friday afternoon.) I'm also taking Chris' word that Tway will be in town by then. So, we got a few peeps hanging out at the Best Western waiting for the Not-So-Outlaw Outlaw race that under no circumstances can get underway until 8:00 that night. (We really have to wait for Camper World and Tilley Harley Davidson to close for business for the night.) Parsons? Ohm? Heinle? The COSS crew? GASS? Kill City? What about them stinkin' Canadiens? And of course all the local DHBs?

What does all this mean?

BAR B QUE!!

If anyone is in town early enough (say 5-5:30 in the afternoon) let's look at making a major assualt on one of the local BBQ huts. Pulled pork, chicken, dirty rice, slaw, sweet tea, beer, hush puppies and God only know what else on the menu.

I'll talk at Marion (does anyone call him "NCL" anymore?) and get a recommendation for the best in town. Preferably someplace in town has a buffet so we can just make damned fools of ourselves eating the place out of business! If no buffet, we'll just order one of everything and pass it all around the table(s).

If you're in town, don't make any dinner plans other than joining a convoy to go eat some pig and sauce.

That is all. We now return you to your regularly-schedule broadcast.

P.S. No, I'm not picking up the tab. Don't EVEN make a joke about it!
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Sorry Kevin & Yvonne

Post by Claude Regnier » Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:34 pm

Sorry to hear about problems and hope everything falls back into place for you soon. These unforseen things are the worst.

We will all miss you and for those of you who don't know yet how much Yvonne helps out at races will have to see for yourself someday. She Rocks!!!!! Kevin's ridding skills have improved so much over the years he such a nice guy that we will all miss his prescence as well.

All the bst folks, safe travels everyone else.

5 day till lift-OFF.
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Dixie Cup

Post by Kevin M. Gamble » Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:17 pm

Well, the power in Stahlstown just came back on today at noon, after being off for 108 hours. I manned the generator, woodburner, and sump-pump and kept the house warm, the food cold, and the basement dry. Unfortunately, in the process, I burned up over 30 gallons of gas and 4 vacation days, missed a few meetings and deadlines, and used up some favors with my boss. Consequently, in an effort to get caught back up at work, we will not be making it to the Dixie Cup.

Yvonne and I were both very much looking forward to attending this event, and we are both kinda bummed about this turn of events. But, it is something that we couldn't have predicted, and Allegheny Power was unprepared for the magnitude of damage that they encountered.

I have no doubt that this will be a great event, and look forward to reading about it.
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Post by Marion Karr » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:30 pm

REMINDER TO DIXIE CUP PARTICIPANTS: Please pack your pads, helmet, and gloves or wrist protection, for your trip to North Carolina. Our contract with Winston-Salem Parks and Recreation stipulates that helmet, knee/elbow pads, and hand protection, be required by all participants...NO EXCEPTIONS.....This will include PRACTICE TIME! Please do not put the DHB organizers in a position of having to turn ass#@! about this but we MUST enforce this rule for everyone! There will be a representative from Winston-Salem Parks and Rec there observing our organization and how we manage this race. The approval process was difficult and we do not intend to damage our newly developing relationship with this city.

If anyone has a problem with this rule please contact Downhillbillies Promotions to be withdrawn from the participant list immediately.

Thank you for cooperation.
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Promotions Update

Post by Marion Karr » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:50 pm

The DHB Dixie Cup is only 10 days away and thanks to the many generous sponsors we have amassed a collection of prizes of a value in excess of $2700!

On Thursday of next week we will post our complete list of sponsors! Thank you all for your support!
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Running the "B" Course

Post by Wesley Tucker » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:41 pm

Oh, a little side note about the "B" course. I have a Roe PS Unlimited Stiff Flex set up with Tracker RT-X/S and 80a Avalons. It's a grippy, stable platform for GS. Maybe not spectacularly exotic, but a really good board for this kind of course.

I was dropping in from the "B" start and still felt speed wobbles coming out of the last set of straight cones before offsetting to set up that wide open stinger at the end. Trust me, the "B" course is STILL very fast, just a little bit more controllable.
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"B" Course Explanation

Post by Wesley Tucker » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:29 pm

For anyone who is interested, this is how we are going to run both an "A" bracket and a "B" bracket at the same time. "B" bracket racers are those who want to drop in lower on the hill and avoid the really screaming speeds of the full Hobby Park course. It really is that fast and if you are the least bit unsure about handling really intense speed, then consider STARTING at the "B" start and if you feel confident you can move up to the "A" later in the day during the open jam session of racing. I'll be upfront and tell you right now I'm starting as a "B" bracket racer.

You can see on the right side of the course a bright orange line with an arrow showing the "B" course through the first couple of cones:

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This is five cones less than the full course, so you're still looking at a 20-cone giant slalom.

I've talked with the TrakMate gurus and this is how it will work:

There will be a tape strip at the top of the course and the bottom of the course. This will be for the "A" racers. This will also be the "Red Lane" or "Lane One" or however it's marked on the little black box TrakMate timer.

Down the hill will be a second tape strip. It's off to the RIGHT of a LEFT offset, so it's already in the "no man's land" that's between a cone and the right side of the road. No "A" racer will be over there unless they completely blow out the course. (Don't take my quick touch up to the photo as literal. There is PLENTY of clearance for everyone in the "A" bracket to avoid this tape strip.)

The "B" racers will cross this second tape strip and drop into the course on the SAME RIGHT OFFSET AS THE "A" COURSE and run down through 20 cones to the same finish line as the "A" racers. These times will be in the "White Lane" or Lane Two" line on the TrakMate timer. Simple as that. We already have the wiring situation figured out in connecting two "START" strips that will be several yards apart. Don't sweat over it.

We can run both sets of racers in order without telling one bracket or the other to wait two hours for the other bracket to finish. Just go to the tape strip where YOUR BRACKET starts, wait for the all clear from the timing table and go. There will be no traffic jams or problems as only one racer at a time will be on the hill.
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Post by Marion Karr » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:36 pm

Marty, Thanks for coming in this weekend and showing us what FAST really looks like! You killed it....I calculated that we road over 10 hours in less than a 24 hour period! Walking around the Ren Fest yesterday all day about killed me!

Thanks for the stoke and the support!

Tucker, thanks for all of your hard work.

HOBBY FAST....It was billed as fast as Marty kept reminding me on Saturday....It will live up to that billing.
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Post by Marty Schaub » Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:37 pm

Marion ain't kidding,

On Saturday we used a hand held stopwatch and posted an 18.47. This was rolling in the course from where the soapbox starting block begins. Times will be even faster due to the fact that you will be able to pull out of the starting gate that will be installed. So what does 18.47 mean?

1.354 cones per second
32.38 feet per second

When Marion says fast, he means FAST!!!!

I can't wait to see what Jason, C-Bark, Noah, et al can do on this hill.
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Post by Marion Karr » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:55 pm

Thanks for posting the pics Tucker....Yes, there is a correction....from the notes I made when we wheeled it off with the rolling tape measure the course is actually 598 feet long from the bottom of the start blocks to the finish and there are 25 cones.

This course is extremely big and open but don't let it fool you. It is all about SPEED.
Even with the spacings being the way they were getting through the bottom section to the finish line took a great deal of concentration to run clean.

The Beginner/Intermediate start point was set just below the numbers painted on the hill but is still a very fast place to roll from.

One note, the finish line is on a slight uphill but don't let that fool you either. When a rider goes by you while you are standing at the finish line they are hauling ass!

Look forward to seeing you all in three weeks.
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The Hobby Park GS Course Is SET And Ready To Run

Post by Wesley Tucker » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:21 pm

Marty Schaub, Marion Karr and myself spent Saturday laying out the Giant Slalom Course for the Dixie Cup race on Sunday, November 6 at Hobby Park. The offsets aren't grinding, but with the speeds this hill generates they are not for newbies.

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Yes, we ran the leaf blower around 11:00 in the morning, but it was littered again by 3:00. With a little luck, most of the autumn fall will be over by November and the course will stay clean all day. If not, we might have to take a break during the jam and run the blowers again.

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Although this looks like a tight stinger at the bottom, these cones are spaced anywhere from nine to ten feet and it's STILL challenging to make clean.

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The course does two things: it goes really fast and it also allows the rider to slalom without cranking through an obstacle course. Marion can correct me on this, but I believe it ended up a total of 27 cones over 535 feet.

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Post by Chris Favero » Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:05 pm

i think the guys from the great white north snould bring bob and doug McKenzie,then the syrup.
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Post by Miguel Marco » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:57 pm

Wesley Tucker wrote:Her CDs really FLY at the shooting range!
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Registration Update

Post by Marion Karr » Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:23 pm

The October 13th payment deadline has passed and no payment was received from or arrangements made by the following skaters:

Jeff Goad
Ben Buckles
Wes Eastridge
Mark Johnson

They have been removed from the Contest Sign-up. Please contact Downhillbillies Promotions directly concerning your registration and fees.

Anyone else interested in participating in the Dixie Cup please contact Downhillbillies Promotions at promotions@downhillbillies.org.

Please be advised fees will be due upon registration.
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Post by Wesley Tucker » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:56 am

We LOVE Celine Dion!

Her CDs really FLY at the shooting range!
Clay pigeons are SO passe'.
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Re: Last Canadian Signing In

Post by Chris Barrett » Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:39 am

Robert Sydia wrote:Marion:

Hotels booked, flights arranged - totally psyched to race.

Ready for the Maple Syrup Party!!!!!!

All the best,

Rob
We should TOTALLY bring some authentic Can-Syrup. Maybe some bryan addams too? Or Celine Dion?
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Last Canadian Signing In

Post by Robert Sydia » Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:22 pm

Marion:

Hotels booked, flights arranged - totally psyched to race.

Ready for the Maple Syrup Party!!!!!!

All the best,

Rob

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Post by Chris Barrett » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:17 pm

"my ships in anchor my suitcase packed, got a one way ticket aint comin back."

Alls green here guys, rooms booked, plane's chucked, just gotta get my boards outta the vac bag and cut! suuuuper psyched.
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Post by Wesley Tucker » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:59 pm

The only people who make fun of the Waffle House Sausage Patty Melt with hash browns are those cretins who have not had the Waffle House Sausage Patty Melt with hash browns.

Of course, seeing as how that particular delicacy has somewhere between 7 and 8,000 calories PER BITE, it's not a treat to be taken lightly. I indulge in this culinary extravagance no more than once a year. And at that it's usually followed by a three-to-four day fast. I find that's a great way to even things out.

Just to keep this on topic, the Best Western advertises that the room comes with a "full breakfast." I don't know if this means sweet rolls and coffee or a Cordon Bleu chef taking orders and preparing omelettes and crepes. We'll just have to wait and see if a trip across the parking lot ot the WH will be in order to get a more "satisfying" breakfast fare.

And just for the record, no place on the Interstates of America has better coffee AROUND THE CLOCK than Waffle House. I think it's because the serve so much at all hours that a pot is never allowed to sit on the burner and stew for hours on end.

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Post by Marion Karr » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:46 pm

I like my women like I like my Waffle House hash browns......Scattered Smothered, and Covered.......oh yeah, don't forget Chunked and Topped......



(Sometimes stupid sh*t just pops into my head like that....)
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Post by Chris Favero » Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:28 pm

i love the waffle house.thats like us saying dont eat at white castle.cf
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Waffle's?

Post by Marty Schaub » Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:13 pm

Just don't EAT at the Waffle House.......
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Directions From Charlotte Airport To Best Western Statesvill

Post by Marion Karr » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:12 am

For all of you flying into Charlotte Douglas International Airport:

Out of the airport look for directions to I-77 North.

Take I-77 North To Exit 49-A.

Turn Right at top of ramp on to US 70/Garner Bagnal Blvd.

Turn Right at Waffle House (1/10 of a mile or so) Morland Drive

Best Western is on the left behind the Waffle House...

How freakin easy is that?
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Post by Mike Cividino » Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:50 am

well, Rob and I have our flights booked, we arrive in Charlotte at 1:20 or so friday afternoon. I think we will be renting a car from there so anyone coming in around the same time we may be able to share a car. I cant wait to get down there. YEEE HAW.

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Post by Marion Karr » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:52 pm

Dixie Cup Update

Payment Deadline Reminder> Thursday, October 13th

If you have not already paid your entry fee for the upcoming Dixie Cup race please do so on or before October 13. As the race approaches we have expenses that have to be paid...please help us out so we can have everything ready to roll (pun and no pun intended) when y'all get here!

Payment Options:

Paypal to:
promotions@downhillbillies.org

Mail Check or Money Order To:

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If the 13th of this week is not good for you but you a DEFINITE planning on attending the race and need to work something out on timing of payment contact me at karr@downhillbillies.org.

This deadline is important for two reasons:

1. Paying expenses (mentioned above)
2. Determing the true field and allowing us to prepare properly.

Thank you for your help. Please contact me if you have any questions.

A BIG THANKS go out to everyone who have already payed! It has helped get us moving on our plans.




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Post by Marion Karr » Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:44 pm

SPONSOR UPDATE:

The DHB has received sponsorship commitments from Tailtap and Concrete Wave Magazine for the upcoming Dixie Cup!

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Post by Marion Karr » Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:41 pm

Tway! You da man bro! There is as KOA Campground that is only 4 miles from the exit where Best Western is on I-77.

KOA of Statesvillle
http://www.koa.com/where/nc/33157/

Another option would be Vanhoy Family Campground/Vanhoy Farms. Its north of Statesville about 15 miles in Union Grove. This is the site of the famous Union Grove Fiddlers Convention. It's beautiful up there and is about 50 minutes or so from Hobby Park.

http://www.vanhoyfarms.com/

Also, between here and Winston-Salem there are a couple of campgrounds on I-40 (which would be real convenient to both Statesville and Hobby Park. One is called Lake Myers Resort...it is in Mocksville.

Lake Myers Resort
http://lakemyersrv.com/

Lake Norman State Park that is cool as heck and in Troutman, NC and is about 20 minutes from downtown Statesville and about an hour from Hobby Park. This would be more primative and you would need to see if their shower facilities and bath facilities are still open that time of year. They have a cool mtn. bike trail there called the Itusi that some of my friends have been building over the years.
Here is the website again:

Lake Norman State Park
http://www.ils.unc.edu/parkproject/visit/lano/home.html

As far as tempertures that time of year, the nights are cool (probably low 40's) and we can usually get our first frost about that time of the year but the days are spectacular! Normally it is very dry here and that is what we are banking on.

This is the options off the top of my head. I will look and see. You know where Hobby is in relationship to Statesville so choose accordingly. The KOA is the closest and fairly cheap. Vanhoy Farms is freakin cool as hell. The State Park would be the cheapest but the furtherest away from Hobby. Lake Myers is a bunch of old fart Good Sam RV'ers but the facilities are nice and it is between here and Winston.
Call me if you need more info 704 657 9531..... We are also working on the possibility of some free camping locales but are still waiting on some info.
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Camping for the Dixie Cup

Post by William Tway » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:25 pm

Marion,

What are your thoughts on camping in the Statesville/Winston Salem area? Are there any good sites you could recommend? Are the early Nov. temps too cold?

Thanks,

It looks like Lake Norman is about 10 miles away.

http://www.ils.unc.edu/parkproject/visit/lano/fee.html

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Post by Marion Karr » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:20 pm

By the way, this is about the 5th Hotel question... I am going to send an email to the group!

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Post by Marion Karr » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:18 pm

Rental Car Info for Statesville:
Go to www.enterprise.com and reserve your car online at the Statesville, North Carolina location (Garner Bagnal Blvd).

Once you have your reservation (making it online is cheaper), call them at (704) 871-8900 and let them know when you will be arriving and that you need to be picked up...they will come to the airport and pick you up. Their office is only about 500 yards from the Best Western.

If you are leaving on Sunday you will need to ask them how to do the car drop off. They may actually have a drop at the airport.

This is the best Enterprize rental car office I have ever dealt with..the guys are great.

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Post by Chris Barrett » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:16 pm

Joe Iacovelli wrote:HOTEL INFORMATION
Hotel Name: Best Western AAA property

Hotel Rate: $49.95 includes full breakfast

Hotel Location: I-77 Exit 49-A in Statesville

Hotel Phone Number: 704-881-0111



Notes: When making you reservation say you are with the Downhillbillies in order to receive the discounted group rate.

Chris are you brining your Mom?

Well alright!
You bet I am man! We'll hook you too up, just be a gentleman okay? Oh and you gotta get her on that exkate, but she's a timid creature.

We gotta clear customs somewhere so we might have to go to charlotte and drive up to statesville. Does Charlotte have a rental centre near the airport?
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Post by Joe Iacovelli » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:37 pm

HOTEL INFORMATION
Hotel Name: Best Western AAA property

Hotel Rate: $49.95 includes full breakfast

Hotel Location: I-77 Exit 49-A in Statesville

Hotel Phone Number: 704-881-0111



Notes: When making you reservation say you are with the Downhillbillies in order to receive the discounted group rate.

Chris are you brining your Mom?

Well alright!

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Post by Chris Barrett » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:25 pm

SLALOM AIR IS GO:

wether or not Civ and Rob are coming via it is not confirmed. We will be arriving at Statesville Airport and would appreciate advice on:

-where to get a rental car
-a good hotel to stay
-some stuff for my rents to do while down there.

Thanks guys.
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Post by Chris Favero » Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:55 pm

boys,its simply a "Chi-Town throwdown in a southern town".i am sooooo amped for this weekend.is gale gonna show up to drown me?cf
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Post by Marty Schaub » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:37 pm

Marion,

Does your wife know that you think Lizzie's hot?

However, if you are going to call another woman hot, the owner of one of the finest skate shops around is a great choice......

See you on the 15th, keep the basement open.....
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Post by Marion Karr » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:14 pm

DOWNHILLBILLIES PROMOTIONS would like to thank our newest sponsor for the 1st Annual Downhillbillies Dixie Cup:

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Thank you Lizzie! You're hot and you Rock!
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Post by Marion Karr » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:37 pm

Hey Joe, Do you know how to squeal like a pig? (banjo playing in the background).
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Post by Marty Schaub » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:19 pm

I like mine better....It rhymes.....

Joe, you sound well versed in the southern "Jerry Lee Lewis dating techniques."


Oh and the boys down here wouldn't burn a cone, maybe a Jeff Gordon effigy.
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Post by Joe Iacovelli » Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:33 pm

Or the

"Everybody down here marries their 14 yr old cousin, it's no big deal" race?

or

We could make it a "NASCAR" slalom race, but you could only have left turns

I've got more but I don't want to offend anybody. I'm afraid I might wake up in the middle of the night with a cone burning on my front lawn.

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Post by Gary Saenz » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:17 pm

Or maybe the "Outlaw Hootenanny".

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Post by Marty Schaub » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:25 pm

Hey Marion & Assorted Freak Bros,

Staying with the southern theme, can't we call Friday's race the "YEEEE-HAWWW Outlaw?"


STTFM.....
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Post by Marion Karr » Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:12 pm

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT> FINAL APPROVAL FOR HOBBY PARK RACE ON SUNDAY

Winston Salem Park and Recs Risk Management Department Has Given Us Final Approval For The Use of Hobby Park Soap Box Derby Hill!

IT's ON BOYS!
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Post by Marion Karr » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:57 pm

Kevin, we are still working on the times but should have it by Monday. Do you know if you wife is going to be able to make the trip? My offer is still there and we sure could use her expertise!

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Statesville event

Post by Kevin M. Gamble » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:17 pm

What time does practice and qualifying begin for the Saturday race in Statesville? The contest calendar only says Saturday morning.

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Post by Marion Karr » Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:52 am

Chris Barrett wrote:Should I bring a mission specific DH board, or will a simple gs board do?
Dude, you are going to want to bring a DH board for the downhill. I will be riding a Big Red X. There will be Landyachtz drop downs, Subsonics, and Bozi Mad Bombers on the hill. It's unlimited push and based on a GPS (which is not particularly accurate) Evan (local DHB) went 48.8 mph on it at one of our last jams. I think it is actually not that fast because it is so short but I covered 550 feet in 9.8 secs and part of that was uphill to the finish line. I think the hill is easily capapable of 45 mph and more with the right set up. Air braking and carving out in the run out is a must.
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Post by Chris Barrett » Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:25 am

Should I bring a mission specific DH board, or will a simple gs board do?
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Post by Wesley Tucker » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:13 pm

Cfav,

I always make a GREAT first impression!!
It's the second one where everything starts going to hell.

Oh, I can't impress enough just how convenient this motel is to the outlaw race. Imagine if a motel sets where the UPS depot is on Trade Street. I think Marion's estimation of 300 yards is WAY TOO FAR. After we were coming off the hill at the finish line Sunday night, I was just cruising on out and finally slowed down about 50 feet from the turn-in to the motel parking lot. There will be no need for anyone staying at the Best Western to take much of anything to the race site. If you need to make an equipment change or get something your forget, just go back to your room. It's about that close.

Oh, one other thing. I'll have my cones in the UAV, (100 red, 100 white.) If you want to spare yourself bringing cones all the way from Chicago, that'll be cool. I'll have plenty with me. Also, I've got a small folding table for the timer. Of course, I've got all the other stuff, too: chalk, plenty of duct tape, leaf blower, yadda, yadda, yadda. If you and CNova travel together, don't think you have to pack EVERYTHING needed to put on an Outlaw. I got it covered. If you bring the hardware for the timer, the rest is done.

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Post by Chris Favero » Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:39 pm

hi,got a room at the best western.wesley,thanks for posting the info,it was three minutes.the family is asking "how is wesley,will you see him?"what kind of sweet talk did you pull on them in st lou?you left a big impression.cf
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