[2006] Paris Slalom World Cup 2006, May 25-28, 2006

Pelle Gustafsson · Post by **Pelle Gustafsson** » Sun May 14, 2006 8:09 am

hi! my wife and i are going to have a baby again at this time so I cant go there. so good luck to all my Swedish and other friends...hope to see you all in Riga insted. pelleplast

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Sat May 13, 2006 12:20 pm

Heiko Schöller wrote:Paris is waiting for you...

Duvel Racing Team is ready to rumble again...

The French sport minister might be pleased to see so sportive riders like them...

rmn

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:19 pm

Jack Smith wrote:I am stoked that I will be attending the Paris World Cup.

Yeeesss! Great news Jack.
Looking forward to welcome you here! Let me know if you need any kind of assistance.

PS. Please register on the site http://event.riderz.net as well.

/Jani

Heiko Schöller · Post by **Heiko Schöller** » Fri May 12, 2006 6:49 pm

Paris is waiting for you...

Duvel Racing Team is ready to rumble again...

Mike Cividino · Post by **Mike Cividino** » Fri May 12, 2006 6:42 pm

thats great Jack!, I might just see you at the airport!.

Jack Smith · Post by **Jack Smith** » Fri May 12, 2006 4:59 pm

I am stoked that I will be attending the Paris World Cup. I arrive on May 24th. Thanks to all the individuals and sponsors who made this possible.

See you soon,
Jack

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Fri May 12, 2006 2:18 pm

We are currently making plans to welcome the French Sport Minister to PSWC 2006. This is quite a unique event because never before (since 1901!) has a French Sport Minister attended either a skateboard or roller skate event in France.

He has expressed interest himself and we are now awaiting his confirmation as to which day he'd be expected.

This could be a good opportunity attract a little bit of extra attention to us and the event and it'll be really good for future requests for authorizations or sponsorships to have a couple of photos of the Sports Minister attending our event.

/Jani

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Fri May 12, 2006 2:06 pm

The decision has been made to use the following distances for the tight (straight) slalom:

PRO: 2.00 m
AM: 2.20 m

/Jani

Guillaume Saint-Criq · Post by **Guillaume Saint-Criq** » Tue May 09, 2006 11:37 pm

Here are a few updates on the registration:

1.
We've decided to allow up to 60 racers in AM class (vs 50 planned)
only 2 more AM racers before waiting list !

2.
we decide to allow one more week before first payment deadline.
Payment after May 14, AM's pay +5 euros.
Payment after May 21, or on site, AM's pay +10 euros.

We are now very close to payment deadline (May 14), to sign up at a reduced cost, so please hurry up.

3.
Pros will not have to pay any extra if they register late, even on site on the day of the race.

info paiement : http://event.riderz.net/pswc2006/index. ... nt&lang=us

autres infos : inscription(@)riderz(.)net

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon May 08, 2006 9:29 pm

Memories from last year

Photo(s) by Etienne de Bary, ConeRacing.

alavoine jean paul · Post by **alavoine jean paul** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:31 pm

Jani Soderhall wrote:Ready to race?

Not yet!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Thu May 04, 2006 5:27 pm

Jani Soderhall wrote:Luca had his old Italian trucks and Anatoly had his old Soviet (probably Latvian) trucks.

Let's start making copies of those and then we have a good alternative to Radikal.

/Jani

Didn't you read carefully enough? We already HAVE a good alternative to Radikal trucks! It's called "Tracker RT-X":

So why don't we ride tighter straight slalom?!

rmn

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Thu May 04, 2006 3:57 pm

Marcus Seyffarth wrote:The only two who made the course clean was Luca and Anatoly, none of them on radikals. Could it be skill?

No, not only skills. They were also helped by their trucks. Luca had his old Italian trucks and Anatoly had his old Soviet (probably Latvian) trucks.

Let's start making copies of those and then we have a good alternative to Radikal, who are more or less out of service. Then we can have any type of courses. Don't let the secret out, but I have a set of the same trucks as Anatoly and he has made me new bushings.

Ready to race?

/Jani

Marcus Seyffarth · Post by **Marcus Seyffarth** » Thu May 04, 2006 3:22 pm

alavoine jean paul wrote:But how many skaters in the top 15 were using Radikals???

I think 9 of top 15 in Stockholm used radikals. The only two who made the course clean was Luca and Anatloy, non of them on radikals. Could it be skill?

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Thu May 04, 2006 12:27 pm

Luca Giammarco just signed up. Good news!

Gianluca Ferrero has also said that the Italians will bring a camera team to Paris and later also to Brixlegg to generate film that can be used to promote the sport.

This is part of the Olympic follow up where the Italian skaters and skate organizers were present to promote our sport.

/Jani

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:15 pm

Anders Hellquist wrote:Yes Jani, the pro course in Sthlm was hard, but look at the results again: several 10-top-racers made it with RTX. Tight special courses is not only a question for Radikals. It's about high raisers.

Haha! This goes out to all those riders who don't ride Radikals: Gimme your RT-X and 10 bucks and I'll make it turn (almost) like a Radikal!

rmn

alavoine jean paul · Post by **alavoine jean paul** » Wed May 03, 2006 8:30 pm

Anders Hellquist wrote:Yes Jani, the pro course in Sthlm was hard, but look at the results again: several 10-top-racers made it with RTX. Tight special courses is not only a question for Radikals. It's about high raisers. . Andrewskij

But how many skaters in the top 15 were using Radikals???

As most of the amateurs are getting better every year, 2.1 m would probably be ok, as Jani pinpointed above. And next year some of them will turn pro and skate tighter courses...

P.S.: The rainy conditions didn't allow us for too many changes in our gear in the lovely city of Stockholm.

Anders Hellquist · Post by **Anders Hellquist** » Wed May 03, 2006 3:03 pm

I find it more interesting if there are more factors like technique, concentration, body control etc.

Decide yourself what makes it more demanding for you.

rmn

The special course in Paris and Antibes last year would rather be called 'hybrid', than anything else. It's cool, but I believe that most pros prefer a tighter special course, like the one in Paris 2004. If it's possible to run a straight course with 2 m. cc at Trocadero, it shouldn't be harder to run a special course with similar spaces. Ok, with a little wider spaces at the end then.

Yes Jani, the pro course in Sthlm was hard, but look at the results again: several 10-top-racers made it with RTX. Tight special courses is not only a question for Radikals. It's about high raisers.

Special courses that could be run with an Airflow C81, Trucker RTX and 3dm Avilas should be considerad as hybrid.

Heyhey
Andrewskij

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:43 pm

HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric wrote:In my opinion, the problem is not about making a clean run but a FAST run...
If you don't win the race, even at 2.20m spacing, it only means that it's not that easy ?!

The sad thing about that is that the only challenge would be "who pumps fastest?". I find it more interesting if there are more factors like technique, concentration, body control etc.

Decide yourself what makes it more demanding for you.

EDIT: I'm not wanting you to change the cone spacing of the Pros.

rmn

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:38 pm

I understood that you were talking about the amateurs. (Why should I care about their cone spacing?!

)

Whatever, we will all have to deal with the same conditions...

rmn

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:12 am

Ramón Königshausen wrote:Yesterday we (Manu & I) practiced on 50 cones / 2m straight (on a hill almost as steep as the troca) with some quite strong tailwind and we found it still quite easy to get through...
So same question as every year: Is the Trocadero really sooo fast?

rmn

Ramon,

We are only discussing the distance for the Ams. What we don't want is cones flying all over the place and ams being disqualified because the course was too hard. That's not going to be any fun or give a good impression. How do you like race photos when half of the cones in the background are lying down or out of place?

No, the Trocadero is not the fastest hill on earth, but fast enough so that we have limited the course to 40 cones. If it looks ridiculously easy this year for the Pros we'll increase it to 45 or 50 cones next year.

I agree with Corky and think that we should settle at 2.20 m for the amateurs.

/Jani

HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric · Post by **HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric** » Wed May 03, 2006 10:00 am

In my opinion, the problem is not about making a clean run but a FAST run...
If you don't win the race, even at 2.20m spacing, it only means that it's not that easy ?!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Wed May 03, 2006 6:38 am

Yesterday we (Manu & I) practiced on 50 cones / 2m straight (on a hill almost as steep as the troca) with some quite strong tailwind and we found it still quite easy to get through...
So same question as every year: Is the Trocadero really sooo fast?

rmn

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Wed May 03, 2006 2:22 am

I think 2.20 is tight enough for the Am's. It's easy to sit here and scream for tighter courses but once all the Am's are there they will say thank god they put 2.20. It's a good balance between top and lower level Ams.

2003 - 2.40
2004 - 2.30
2005 - 2.20

Janis kuzmins · Post by **Janis kuzmins** » Tue May 02, 2006 4:24 pm

My hope is that special will be not so similar to the giant of last year.
I saw very good special course last year in Antibes. Trocadero have the same slanting.

Guillaume Saint-Criq · Post by **Guillaume Saint-Criq** » Tue May 02, 2006 2:15 pm

fabrice andré wrote:
Jani Soderhall wrote:Proposal 2.10m?
2.00m !

2m is step for 2004 / 2005 PRO race... and it's very fast at the end...

but most parisian AM can ride it 2m

...

fabrice andré · Post by **fabrice andré** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:57 pm

Jani Soderhall wrote:Proposal 2.10m?

2.00m !

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:40 pm

the german ams(düsseldorf/cologne area) would love 2.10m we have been training on descending slopes 1.80m
don't give it a too wide spacing.

Marcus Seyffarth · Post by **Marcus Seyffarth** » Tue May 02, 2006 11:16 am

Jani, very informative, thank you! I think you did a pretty good job catching up on JG...

For the AM TS I think 2.10 might be too tight. I just remember when I raced AM in 2003, I think it was 2.40 or something back then and that was just makable at the end. Perhaps AM's got better gear/skill on average these days but still 2.20/2.30 would probable be better. Just a thought.

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Tue May 02, 2006 10:40 am

Heiko Schöller wrote:On the Riderz site you say that the Tight will be a straight 2m course. Will it be straight or not because Jani said that you don´t know who is setting the cource?

Oops, my mistake. I meant the special slalom course.
The straight (tight) is meant to be 2 m for the Pros. The exact distance for the AMs hasn't been set, but we have a tradition to make it slightly less than the previous year to bring the AMs closer to the Pro course. When we started in 2003 most AMs were using long boards, its different now, so it could be tighter also for the AMs.

Proposal 2.10m? I'll bring it up with the race committee.

/Jani

Keith Hollien · Post by **Keith Hollien** » Tue May 02, 2006 5:09 am

Thank you Jani and Vincent.

This will be my 3rd year in a row and I cannot wait. I do not think 110 euros is too much to pay for pros. I also do not think four days is too many days to race and I will be 47 years old in July. Michelle and I will see everybody in Paris in a few weeks. We arrive on Monday the 22nd.

Keith, Teams Radikal & Pocket Pistols & Oust.

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Tue May 02, 2006 4:04 am

Take a look at Contest registration in general. Pro's simply aren't travelling as far this year. Flights have increased by as much as $300.00 for a round trip ticket. McCree is no longer footing the bill for the US crew and there are many more races going on in the US.

If I had not booked (Flights) Paris in January I likely wouldn't be going either. Some will choose one European event and because Brixxlegg is the Worlds most will try to make it to that one. I am struggling with airfaires for the one. Donald that is why I haven't paid yet! As soon as I book my flights I'll pay-pal the entry fee.

As far as the TS race goes. The nice thing about the Paris race is that it is the same TS course year after year and regardless of where you place you can see your times and compare them to previous years. It doesn't need to be longer, at the end of the day the footbraking gets tougher and it seems like it gets shorter anyway

Jani, It's good that the crew is working so hard at trying to make each and every year better. It will be a blast regardless of who shows up. As far as Top AMs Look out for CIV. He will be moving up soon enough as well. It will not be easy in the AM division for anyone in that group. If you think it will be then you're in for a big surprise.

See you all soon and I am no longer sure about making it to Zurich as the cost are a little higher then anticipated but we will keep those who need to know in the know.

Heiko Schöller · Post by **Heiko Schöller** » Tue May 02, 2006 2:28 am

On the Riderz site you say that the Tight will be a straight 2m course. Will it be straight or not because Jani said that you don´t know who is setting the cource??

David Rudnianski · Post by **David Rudnianski** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:02 am

Don't worry, it's not an obligation to go there. You can decide for yourself how you want to spend the evening. If someone wants to, it's there.

It's not an obligation, but you should be there! we worked so hard to have this exeptionnal place, so we're awating for you all

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:45 pm

Here are a few updates on the registration:

1.
We've decided to allow up to 60 racers in AM class (vs 50 planned), so there's still an opportunity to register, but please do it soon, it'll help us refine the planning and create starting lists prior to the event.

2.
Registration after May 7, AM's pay +5 euros.
Registration after May 21, or on site, AM's pay +10 euros.

3.
Pros will not have to pay any extra if they register late, even on site on the day of the race.

Here are my answers to a few of the recent questions:

What will the TS be like?

We haven't decided who is setting the course and we definitely haven't set it yet, so the answer is we don't know. Personally I don't think it would be appropriate to do such a tight course as in Stockholm for two reasons:
i) You need special trucks for that course, not everybody has them.
ii) Trocadero is a bit too steep for a tight course that tight. I'd rather make it longer then, that would make for a more interesting race.

Will there be a GS in another place?

It was our intention to do it on a major boulevard, not far from Trocadero, but the request was refused. We still didn't give up and Alain, our superman adminstrator, is trying all methods he can to get it through. It could still fail, but at least we'll them have bothered them enough to get it through another time. If we don't get this authorisation, we'll do it in the usual place.

If it's raining will GS be moved?

If we get an authorisation for a GS race outside of Trocadero that'll be for one day only. They will not be able to cope with us changing the date. Paper work is paper work and there will be no way to approve of such a change in the middle of the weekend. But sure, we'll try to squeeze it into one of the other days in the weekend.

Prize money?

Sorry, but we forgot to announce a minimum Pro prize purse. The formula was copied in from last year, when that wasn't a concern, so nobody gave it any particular thought. I for one consider the Pro prize money an important factor for Pros to be able to make it to more events in one year than they could otherwise afford. We all have limited travel budgets and with decent pro money, they best racers can afford to go to a few more races than they would otherwise do. I think we should do all we can to keep the prize money up, but it's not easy. I hope we can announce an increase in the pro prize purse but at least we now have a minimum.

Easy World Ranking points?

Obviously if there are few pros registered high points are easier to obtain. It's not something we planned, nor influenced.

Why so many days?

We thought that more racing meant more fun, but we never thought of the negative aspect in terms of hotel stays and additional time away from families. I realize it's a problem, but then, just skip a day or two and come and race only on two days.

Why a party the day before the event?

Don't worry, it's not an obligation to go there. You can decide for yourself how you want to spend the evening. If someone wants to, it's there.

Isn't a deadline a deadline?

It's always important to know who's coming and how many racers will attend. When we realized that we didn't fill the quota we were hoping for we decided to extend the deadline.

110 euros is too much

I've heard this so many times now, but please before complaining, deduce the four meals and a t-shirt. AM's have a chance to race without paying for the meals and the t-shirt. For the Pro's there's no such option. I think I personally made that decision. I could not imagine one pro racer that would not think it's worth bringing a t-shirt home. Likewise I was convinced that you couldn't eat at a lower prize anywhere close to the race site, so really I thought there was no need for such an option. Maybe we'll revise that next year.

What makes you decide to go Pro? (my question)

You go Pro if you want to race the best and you feel ready for it. If you haven't won a couple of races in Amateur class already I suggest you stay AM and enjoy the pleasure of being on the podium. You should go Pro when you feel you have no alternative, ie racing AM would be too easy a task for you.

Will only 5 people get the money?

We've previously paid down to 8th place in each discpline. This year we have limited it to the top 5. Paying to the top 5 in three disciplines should hopefully make the money more well distributed than paying to the top 8 overall.

Why doesn't Florian Lombardo race Pro?

That's a very kind compliment to him, but as he just moved from Junior to AM, isn't it reasonable to race AM for awhile? Give him a chance to dominate the season (if he's really that good) just like Vinzzz and Heiko did last year.

Why is this a main if it's only 10 pros?

World Ranking statuses are not determined by the race organizers themselves. I don't even think anyone in the race organization even promoted it. I guess it comes from our history of being one of the most prestiguous races in Europe each year.

Are you a Pro if you pay everything yourself?

All the racers know it, Pro/Am is just the words we've all choosen to differentiate the two groups. Personally I'd rather do well in the Pro group than in the A group. Amateur world champion sounds better to me than B group world champion. For those who want to argue this topic please open up a new topic.

Nations Cup, how will it be?

This will be a fun event, just like in Antibes. It's similar to Antibes rules will be announced soon. You can register your team on site.

Despite the negative words and replies in this post, remember that Paris Slalom World Cup is always a very memorable happening for a number of reasons:

- The site - unbeatable
- The organization
- The media (where else do you have > 6 TV channels covering the event)
- The atmosphere
- The participants
- The bi-lingual commentary

To organize an event in the middle of Paris obviously takes a bit more administrational effort than doing it elsewhere, and we apologize if we've been lacking in public information while sorting out our organization internally.

Now, let the race excitement start building up. There are cool trophies at stake for all podium finishers and we've got plenty of sponsors lined up with goodies.

PSWC will be the best Trocadero race so far!

Welcome!

PS. Sorry for the long post - I'm trying to catch up with JG's average-word-per-post statistics.

/Jani

Peter Klang · Post by **Peter Klang** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:32 pm

Great work Vinzz and everybody working on the event.
I am such a pain in the ass, but I really want to know what to expect of the TS course? I promise, it will be my last question.

Oh, sorry this is my last question. If it rains on Thursday will the GS be on Friday or Sunday?

I'm a pain, I know.

PK

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:56 pm

marcus
no i don't have a problem with you,you got that wrong.
i only have a problem with folks who mess up their own contest and the whole orga/structure of the event and later on complain about other contests.once they catch shit,they add "best of luck and whatsoever" to their posts,which doesn't make the general impression of their first post any better.
if you feel attacked by this-that's your own problem.i was definitely not talking about your racing career from last year,i don't care what you did in racing,absolutely uninterested.

if you smell beef,well,that's your problem,you asked a question,you got the answer.

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Mon May 01, 2006 8:43 pm

that's a few good news!

rmn

Vincent Berruchon · Post by **Vincent Berruchon** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:25 pm

A few news
Hey! you woke up racers!
Sorry for lack of informations. There's so many things to do and you were so quiet that yes we forgot to keep you informed about important things.
In fact there are things we are still workin' on to get it better, so we did not anounce them but what I can say:

Prize-money: the minimum total amount is set to 2000€.
It will be distributed to the 5 best Pro racers of each discipline: tight, special and giant.
The overall champion of all slalom races will get money too.
We still expect more but if we stop at 2000€, the distribtuion will be like that:
1st: 250€ - 2nd: 150€ - 3rd: 100€ - 4th: 50€ - 5th: 50€
and 200€ for the overall champion.

No money for The Nations Cup: race for the honour of your country and team. It will be an "Antibes-like" Nations Cup. Jani will give you soon more news about that really exciting team race.

Giant Slalom spot: we are still negociating with the highest authorities to get the authorization to race on a big boulevard just near the Trocadero. The Minister of Sport and Youth is listening but we're still waiting for the final word!

Vincent, injured, ill but still there

Marcus Seyffarth · Post by **Marcus Seyffarth** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:46 pm

Donald Campbell wrote:marcus,no hard feelings,but you had your very own disaster last year in stockholm,why is it that you try to ridicule what vince,jani and all the others are doing?

I'm not sure what your problem is with me Donald, and i'm not even sure what "my own disaster" was last year, are you refering to the rain in stockholm, or that I didn't do better in Paris, Sthlm or Grüningen?

As of your comment it seems no questions are allowed, while I think it's good to know if I should bring my GS board or the TS or both. PSWC2004 the pro special was tight and the GS was at Trocadero where you might as well use your TS board. So for 2005 I only brought the TS board and the courses was wide open which kind of sucked. My bad, bring all your guns to battle and blah blah blah. I could of course do that and shut up, but wouldn't it be even better to know what to expect, or is that to much to ask for?

Further on I definately think it's questionnable having a free bar event for the racers and organizers the day before the qualifications. It's not that slalomskateboarding draws that much attentinon that the bar is for media and hangarounds, but more for the racers. I assume at least. It's a very nice touch to organize something like that, and I understand it's not mandatory, but still...

And of course you gotta question the status of the event when the organizer announces that this will be easy rankning points, don't you?

I also expect to get a "f¤%k you it's to late" if I register to late for Brix, I should, and so should everybody else that registers after deadline.

With that said, I don't think my post a few lines up was that out there, was it?

I truly hope that the event will be a success and that Jani, Vince, David and all the other oranizers that work their asses of still consider me a friend, even though I might ask questions, cause I think they are cool cats and I wish them good luck!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:54 pm

Jadranko Radovanovic wrote:What i want to say is, that 110 or 100 Euro is too much for entry fee. We have Ramon, Manuel Schaub, Manuel Frei, Michael Brönimann, Pascal Weber which can race with the Pro's, but it will not be possible for them to spend 100 Euro for each event. Even if some of them can earn some money.

J-Rad

Yeah, geile Siech!

rmn

Guillaume Saint-Criq · Post by **Guillaume Saint-Criq** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:44 pm

Jadranko Radovanovic wrote:How it is written on the website, i can register for 3 disziplines for 30 Euro. Is it the same for the AM and PRO's ?

it is for AM only.
sorry for that mistake in the english translation : it was only written on the french pages

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:25 pm

demanding higher entry fees can also be in direct connection to the apparatus needed to make the race possible.i think that's the case in paris,so the entry fee is justified in my eyes,but i don't represent the majority of racers.i would gladly pay it.
on the other hand i also think that each and every pro can afford those races with their entry fees.
nobody is starving here,so stop whining about the fees.
peter,yeah right,i will share more info on the site pretty soon,hopefully the next two weeks.

on the other hand we do have an own topic here on ss.com regarding the races and whereabout,conditions,etc-but there's more work to ,so check by from time to time to see it all.

on the other hand i'm a bit bummed that so many folks register,but don't pay.even though i clearly announced that payments should be done with the registration.
why is that so?

Jadranko Radovanovic · Post by **Jadranko Radovanovic** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:14 pm

Sorry, didn't see at the website, that is possible to register without the "package am/fille" or "package pro"

How it is written on the website, i can register for 3 disziplines for 30 Euro. Is it the same for the AM and PRO's ?

What i want to say is, that 110 or 100 Euro is too much for entry fee. We have Ramon, Manuel Schaub, Manuel Frei, Michael Brönimann, Pascal Weber which can race with the Pro's, but it will not be possible for them to spend 100 Euro for each event. Even if some of them can earn some money.

The way of the packages:
Make the entry fee transparent. Let the riders pay the entry fee without any shirts and food. They who want a shirt or food will buy it there, the other's needn't to pay if they don't want a shirt and food.

J-Rad

Peter Klang · Post by **Peter Klang** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:32 pm

I guess it´s my own damn foult, but I thought you all know me.
I know very well what it takes to pull of an event such as Paris WC. I been there twice.
I never get the money, so I´m not kidding myself this year ether.
I JUST WANT EVERY PROMOTER TO GIVE ALL INFORMATION IN GOOD TIME BEFORE THE RACE.

In case you don´t know Donald, we are living in a time the future will refer to as the information age. If you demand something from the racers, they probably have demands back, like info from your webpage.

To ignore a racers question regarding anything about a race is plane stupid, I go all over the place all the time, give me some info and I´m happy. If you ask me I answer right away. Like 2005, what will the courses be like. We told you all six month before the race. I still don´t know if the GS will be at Trocadero or what.

How will the TS look like? Open like 2005 or tighter?

...and Ramon, don´t hold your breath for Luca.

That´s all
Happy Klangster

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:25 pm

We're discussing the situation and will come up with an announcement within the next few days.

JRad, probably all of the Pros will get value for the money in terms of number of runs, if that's your primary concern. Most likely almost all will be in the bracketing system in special and tight, thus everybody will probably get a fair number of runs each. At what other event would you get more runs in during a weekend?

Also remember that the price includes 4 meals and a t-shirt, so the price is lower this year than last year.

/Jani

Jadranko Radovanovic · Post by **Jadranko Radovanovic** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:19 pm

Ramon gave the answer already.

110 Euro for riding 8times the trocadero is too much !

5 people will get the money and all others have to pay ?

J-Rad

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:28 pm

from the recent posts i can see that there are complaints?
why is that so?

people in france are working hard and they show big enthusiasm.
is it ok to thank this with questions regarding the status of the race and so on and so on?

what's the problem?

peter?
shooting for money?
money's not everything.

these guys in paris are supercool and one of the best crews around,working their butt off to make it happen.

i find the last half of this certain page very frustrating to read.
marcus,no hard feelings,but you had your very own disaster last year in stockholm,why is it that you try to ridicule what vince,jani and all the others are doing?

i don't want to stir the pot here,nor do i want to attack you guys,but i'm really wondering what's wrong,eh?

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:34 pm

That's what I just sent to PK:

[...]
Most people either still don't care about deadlines or are not so present on the Internet (for example Luca, Maurus...)
So they'll just show up there and register at the race side. (It would be a real big mistake if somebody didn't let them participate)

Also there are people like Manuel Schaub or Pascal Weber who cannot afford to pay €110, so they prefer riding Amateur...
[...]

EDIT: Just noticed that Florian Lombardo's signed up for Amateur, not anymore in my eyes

rmn

Patrick Allan · Post by **Patrick Allan** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:06 pm

Peter Klang wrote:Let me see if I can get a answer of the disribution of the prize purse of 12*110€*0,75=990€
There are three events, is it 1.2.3 in each disipline or 1.2.3 overall, I need to know seince if I go I will be missing the Giant. I hope someone could pay the decent curtesy of informing me and everybody else.

Overall: 990€ ???
Three events: 330€ each event ???

Yo
PK

It will be 1/2/3 for each discipline for the trophees... However we would like to give prize money to thr five first (at least) for each discipline, but we need more people to sign up pro! I might even have to sign up pro if it goes on like this...

But I'm sure there will be many more pros to sign up...
If there aren't enough pros we will probably try and compensate one way or another to give more prize money, I can't say anything for sure about that, but I'm sure Jani will come up with something and keep you informed as soon as possible...

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