GILMOURIAN CURVE
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GILMOURIAN CURVE
Hi everybody , could you decribe what a Gilmourian curve is? I believe that adding a diagram would be great for better understanding. Thanks to you all for giving all these valuable informations. Sylvain
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Sylvain, the Gilmourian Curve is simply placing the cones along an exaggerated arc.
That said, it's an extremely difficult course setting to get right, even harder to ride through IF it's a suprise in the middle of a fast Hybrid course.
:-P
The thing is, you're forced to go very wide on one turn, while going almost straight in the next; repeat.. It pushes on your ability to govern speed, sense traction, pump to accelerate, and will immediately inform you of whether you have a 'weak' side in planning/forming your turns. Set it up not just as a "C", but as an "S", and you've got an ego breaker. It's a great training-course exercise, one that can make you cry as much as grin!
What I do in placing cones for such curves is carefully pace my steps heel-to-toe, but every third step, shift to one side 10-20cm. Usually, with my size 9m (US sizing) sneakers on, I'll take 8 to 9 steps this way to place the cones at 2-1/2 to 3 meters apart. After that is done, I'll also mark inside the long arc, and if more difficulty is wanted, I'll move every-other cone towards that 'inside' arc. These cones should be the ones passed by on the inside of the G-Curve (JG, you gotta coin this phrase!) in order to increase the offset and difficultly. No G-curve should be more than 1/3 of the width of the lane you're riding on.
That said, it's an extremely difficult course setting to get right, even harder to ride through IF it's a suprise in the middle of a fast Hybrid course.
:-P
The thing is, you're forced to go very wide on one turn, while going almost straight in the next; repeat.. It pushes on your ability to govern speed, sense traction, pump to accelerate, and will immediately inform you of whether you have a 'weak' side in planning/forming your turns. Set it up not just as a "C", but as an "S", and you've got an ego breaker. It's a great training-course exercise, one that can make you cry as much as grin!
What I do in placing cones for such curves is carefully pace my steps heel-to-toe, but every third step, shift to one side 10-20cm. Usually, with my size 9m (US sizing) sneakers on, I'll take 8 to 9 steps this way to place the cones at 2-1/2 to 3 meters apart. After that is done, I'll also mark inside the long arc, and if more difficulty is wanted, I'll move every-other cone towards that 'inside' arc. These cones should be the ones passed by on the inside of the G-Curve (JG, you gotta coin this phrase!) in order to increase the offset and difficultly. No G-curve should be more than 1/3 of the width of the lane you're riding on.
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It should be noted at some contests there have been Gilmourian Curves. I can't wait till the guy hooks up triplets. Maybe he'll break those out at the worlds.
It should be noted at some contests there have been Gilmourian Curves. I can't wait till the guy hooks up triplets. Maybe he'll break those out at the worlds.
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Re: GILMOURIAN CURVE
See Here:SYLVAIN LAVILLE wrote:Hi everybody , could you decribe what a Gilmourian curve is? I believe that adding a diagram would be great for better understanding. Thanks to you all for giving all these valuable informations. Sylvain
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Long post..lost arrg
Well I had a nice long post detailing everything... lost it. oops
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
How about some old videos?
If you have enough speed you can hang your hips on the inside of the curve- limiting the distance your hips move across the hill and alllows your legs to travel that distance... Very fast and you can skid safely if you have enough speed and maintain level shoulders.
http://web.mac.com/nobelprize/iWeb/Site%209/Scott.html
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
How about some old videos?
If you have enough speed you can hang your hips on the inside of the curve- limiting the distance your hips move across the hill and alllows your legs to travel that distance... Very fast and you can skid safely if you have enough speed and maintain level shoulders.
http://web.mac.com/nobelprize/iWeb/Site%209/Scott.html
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Ahhh skatin curves in the Arboretum.... good place to practice if you want a little minature Eiffel Tower, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9OogABbrDg
Offer still stands John.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9OogABbrDg
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Re: Long post..lost arrg
John,John Gilmour wrote:Well I had a nice long post detailing everything... lost it. oops
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
How about some old videos?
If you have enough speed you can hang your hips on the inside of the curve- limiting the distance your hips move across the hill and alllows your legs to travel that distance... Very fast and you can skid safely if you have enough speed and maintain level shoulders.
http://web.mac.com/nobelprize/iWeb/Site%209/Scott.html
You sure do a great job at explaining the tech side of skating cones. You are right about a picture being worth a thousands word. The Quicktime moves are great, you can pause them, step thru them and see body positioning, stance. etc.
It would be cool to see movies of other experienced skaters such as yourself with voice overs explaining how they skate different types of courses.
I've been skating with JBH and taking movies of each other skating the same course. I can have both movie clips running side by side on my computer and compare my style vs. his. It's really helps me understand what I might be doing wrong on certain parts of the course.
Keep on doing what you do. I really appreciate your help.
PG