ISSA - International Slalom Skateboarding Association

[Donald Campbell]

hey all
how do i start?
let's go like this
back at hog hill i had quite a few asking me to do brixlegg again,one week later i hear the same
question in germany too.so i call my good friend henrik in sweden and he's all ears.
then i call a few people in the good old us-positive comments...
then i i call jani,marcus s
so far only interested or very positive comments
i know that the brixlegg and the gog crew will work with me during the contest
jani would be involved with the timing at the race,corky is very likely to do the same-
so we are talking about quality timing and fast races(we will set some sick stuff there!)
brixlegg is not really expensive to live for a few days or a week,it's close to munich or innsbruck airports.

brixlegg wants us to come back too

we could have a 3 day event including the gs hill,a park race too,parties.
we could have a decent prize purse
we could have tv
we could have skate mags
we could do streaming videos on ss.com
and
and
and
people who attended brixlegg last time know how good the place is.


we could have the biggest race ever

i was very reluctant to do such a big thing again.

i'm not anymore.

so here's my fire for next year:
BRIXLEGG BLITZ STRIKES TWICE

it's on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stefano Bellingeri]

GREAT! You know I asked you at least three times about. I will be there. Let's start already for next season training (using this year last races!)
Stefano
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[Antonio Saluena]

Sounds fantastic! I heard so much about Brixlegg! Last time was before i started skating...
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[Fabian Björnstjerna]

Fantastic news!!!
I´m on

[Dominik Kowalski]

Let´s all break a leg in Brixlegg!!!!!

There is simply no better place for a race!!!!

The best Gs ever....
The biggest prize ever been paid...between all the other stuff...
One of europes sickest bowl out there!!!
Spectators!!!
Awesome food, ladies, lakes and lots of lots of Radler...yeah!!!
beautiful landscapes too...although I spent most of the time in a back of a truck....(?)


If you are a slalomskateboarder, and you want to be a REAL Worldchampion...
than you need to go to brixlegg!

Everyone will be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Gustavs Gailitis]

I agree with Dominik - it is a great place and it will be a great race(maybe spectators could have been a little bit more in 2006 )!

I think that Donald is experienced enough to make this race the best ever!!!

I was there in 2006 (finished 42th from 44 amateurs ) and I hope that I will be in Brixlegg also next year ! ! !
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[Manuel Frei]

lets do that shit! sounds fantastic and that it gonna bee tha biggest race ever!
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[Pierre Samray]

Great News! May be I have to continu to skate just to race one of the nicest giant ever done!

Donald I know now you get more experience since 2006 and know you want the best for all.
I'm sure you can count on a lot of people to help you in this event.
No doubt you'll find big price money and you know how to make a world event.

Just some friendly advices.
-Reward before midnight on sunday evening...
-rewards for youngs (there are the future of our sports)
-Much more advertissments (poster in the city, TV, radio...) and so more public for sure.
-True cones marshalls.
-Clean road and no bus crossing the arrival.
Just because it will be the "WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP"

Best wishes for your project

[Dominik Kowalski]

and...Just because it will be the "WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP", we are very aware of that Pierre. Thank you!

By the way, all french riderz have to wear a Bip, just so you don´t get lost;)
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[David Rudnianski]

I'd like to taste that bowl again.....hmm
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[Joe Iacovelli]

Donald,

Just a few tips from the US on your contest;


make announcements only in German and pig latin

bibs that you can wear as pants

have a sign up but just for spanish skaters

no prize money, just valuable internet points

get a Zepplin and....(just trust me)

as I turn 45 next month, I can now decide if I want to race Am, Master, or Pro. Why not open it up all the way and let me race in women, boys or girls. I'm gonna crush those little girls. (fingers crossed)

print up enough t-shirts, but give them all to Paul

flat? screw flat, lets race up-hill!

just trying to be helpful :-P

[Marcus Seyffarth]

Joe, I think we did just about all the above during our last 100 cone race. Will that make it the world championships?

2 Things though - Paul never showed up so there was no t-shirts given away, and it was only Peter Klang who insisted to run 100 cones uphill and he gave up after 80-85 cones.

Donald - great news! When? I need to start perfecting my trampoline routine for the mandatory swim at the lake. Is it possible that we can run both hybrid and TS where the hybrid was 2006? That would be sweeeeet!

/mac

[Pierre Samray]

Dominik. Big size for the bip please!
Think about all these olds fats men who practise slalom... gnierk!



Joe is right : No german language!!
You'd rather use this one
Da gikk han inn i huset igien, tok av seg dressen og dusjet for han kjorte av sted til sykehuset i lewisham.

Or may be this one
ne plasljiv nad tockic

[Sam Gordon]

Brixlegg? Blimmin' brilliant!

The British Crew of schnitzel-bronze Adonis are ready for heisse liebe and bratwurst:



They will bring with them the regular ramshackle gathering of albino stickmen and furious young.

Top move Donaldski. At last!!!




Depth charge is go!!!
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[EMRIK LARSSON]

sounds great donald.. last time i was injured and couldn't make it..
if the brixlegg blitz happens the gothenburg crew will , no doubt, book flights early during 2010, and skate hard!

peace

EMRIK

[Peter Klang]

Love it Donald, go for august 20-22 or 27-29.

[Johan Thiel]

And August would be perfect. Brixlegg last time was a fantastic site. Will be there!!!

[Rob Ashby]

Donald this would make for an awesome Worlds - I'm right there!

C'mon folks lets have some responses/feedback, the sooner a decision is made the sooner the planning can start and the better the event will be - no?

[Ramón Königshausen]

yeah let's set a date....


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[Fabian Björnstjerna]

go for august 20-22 or 27-29.

As Mr Klang suggested.

[robert gaisek]

FAT BASTARDS will be there!

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[Donald Campbell]

aug 20-22 sounds like a good date

since this will be the worlds i will come up with a very special format,a very demanding format.

or to say it like this:you gotta earn your wings!
it is very likely that we will run a 4 stop contest series across europe prior to the worlds.

a format of its own,very special final prizes at the last stop.

each country will present their best riders to the worlds committee which will be announced soon.

it won't be a one man show,it's gonna be formed out of 4 representatives from different countries.
there will be certain limitations on riders coming from each country.
an example:
england top 5
germany top 5
switzerland top 5
sweden top 10
latvia top 5
netherlands top 3
spain top 3
italy top 3
eastern countries top 8
usa/canada top 20
australia top 3
brazil top 3

women will be completely invitational-i can take care of that-and don't come into the count of riders for each country.
no juniors

just an example on how it will be
i will reserve the right to have wildcards for people i deem good enough to participate.
it should be a definite honor to join this contest for anybody who is allowed to do so.
the time has come to market the sport the right way.
i think this is the right way,so do others!
invited riders need to prepay their entry fee to a certain time in order to be allowed to participate too.part of the entry fee will go into tickets for riders from across the lake.
brixlegg will inivte certain folks that are good enough but can't afford it.

the other money goes into paid and schooled coneheads and a tight crew to run the contest.
prizes will be trophies,special trophies that will have a certain value!
no cheap pottery or any other garbage.
there will be very very prominent announcers.
a very special commemorative trophy will be handed to the top 3 overall winners.

there will be no pros or ams nobody is safe
pre races will determine the standings and the riders will be divided into groups.

courses will be gnarly as hell,especially the gs for sure,no kidding,this time its serious stuff for the speed freaks.
formats will be announced prior to the event.
this time i will make sure enough media is present and i definitely want to see more coverage than anybody else ever head
the whole contest will be live,on air,through several forums,visible for anybody across the world.
the entry fee won't be lower than 100 euros,that's the minimum i'm asking for.
a good working homepage which will also focus on the other 4 races.
very possible venues ath the moment are germany,england,switzerland.
i have to figure out the 4th venue.spain or italy would be of interest.
i trust that the people from those countries will read this and get in touch with me.

these races will serve as a prequalification/instant ticket to the worlds and hopefully encourage enough people to travel to other races again.

people i want to work with or already talked to are:

in europe:
chris hart
sam gordon
michael stride
marcus seyffarth
peter klang
dominik kowalski
henke( iguess mika will be in there too)

in the usa:
joe iacovelli
jonathan harms
cbark and the coss crew
eddy martinez

if this thing is performed the right way we will definitely have a very exciting next year with heat building up to the big final,namely the worlds.

the whole project requires something i call common sense.

i am open ears for anything constructive

i want to make slalom BIG next year.

or at least die trying

this whole project will only be realized with the help and input of anybody who cares about the sport!

the debate about how to get this project rolling will be held in workgroups among the countries and cced to the affiliated/involved parties.
all formats and rules/criteria will be brought to the publics attention via homepage


this circuit baby needs a name too
i would like to see a copy of the european thing happen in the us too.

there is a lot of work to be done NOW
e-mail conversation will start october 12th,i have to run a big contest the days before and after that i do have time!


what does it give?

anybody who wins in brixlegg f.e. can call himself the first true world champion,if-and that's the big question-everything works out as planned.
it's up to the riders to make this possible.

i will try to lay out the carpet with a very experienced crew of assistants and organizers,the best the sport has to offer right now.
in the end it's the riders who can make it happen and bring some recognition to this sport.


again... some of the points i mentioned are suggestions,but you get the drift...

[Gustavs Gailitis]

Sounds fantastic!!!
I hope this all will happen nomatter what!

(usa top20 + CANADIANS!!!)




Just realized - less then 11 months left...
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[robert gaisek]

Top 10 from Sweden? Well...I take it all back then....we will probably not be there.
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[Antonio Saluena]

Finally, this is what we have been waiting for! Sounds absolutely fantastic!
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[Pelle Gustafsson]

hope i can make it to top 10... it´s hard but not impossible i think

[Donald Campbell]

its possible for anyone,if skilled and willing to train a lot.
nobody should throw the towel too fast.
besides that,robo,it would be very encouraging for the swedes to have their supporters in brixlegg,don't you think so?

[robert gaisek]

I´m not a supporter....I´m a skater.
(and they never listen to me anyway)

But you´re absolutely right! I will do some serious training and maybe tip someone over in the training-course to be one of the ten.

.....and if you build me a Wadsten GS I will be even better.
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[Petr Novotny]

Oh Dolnald,
there couldn´t be Czech, or we are eastern countries, or air?

PETR

[Joyce Wheldrake]

I hope they could squeeze out prizes for something for those other than the top 3 in each category. They never share, and I just feel so ripped off for going all the way somewhere and coming back with 2 stickers. After all that you do to get to a "Worlds" it sux to come out with nothing but a t shirt. Bushings for all. Dont start the debate about training more so I could be #1 someday.
I also think anyone should be allowed to go not just selected people. It is a great thing to be going to a "Worlds".
Its your race, you will do as you will. All be well.
joyce

[Joe Iacovelli]

Joyce,

I think you missed the whole point. The "Worlds" should be the biggest, baddest race of the year. You should have to qualify to attend. I don't believe I would qualify myself, oh well, they don't let me in the X Games either. Check out the Olympics, there are three medals, thats it.

Joe

[Rob Ashby]

I agree with Joe - The Worlds should be the "biggest, baddest" event. The best of the best competing for the title. Beside if we are getting media coverage then it makes sense to have only those that have qualified - it will make much better viewing and be a showcase event for our sport. Its much better for spectators to see fast close racing rather than cones being sprayed everywhere.

When I started going to comps in 1977/78 I would have been over the moon to have been given a sticker let alone a t-shirt! How times change, you can't please everyone and having organised and run races myself I know this only too well.

I will be at the worlds whether I qualify or not (more likely not!).

Remember you get out what you put in!

[Sam Gordon]

You'll probably remember that Connie runs the Boardshop on the road where the Hybrid was held - right in the centre of town. Connie was also a marshall for the GS on the Reith bypass. He was very enthusiastic about the event and suggested that if it were to be held again, he would try both to sort out the ski timing system and assist with PR within the local vicinity. With the smaller towns it is always good to have a favourable voice towards the ear of the local burgermeisters. Bear in mind that this offer was made a couple of years back; nevertheless, it would be politically good to get him involved in some capacity, especially if the race is to be run on his doorstep.

Contact:

Conny´s Sport-Mode Konrad Margreiter

Adresse:
Römerstrasse 6
6230 Brixlegg
ÖSTERREICH

Telefon: (+43) (05337) 633330
Telefax:(+43) (05337) 633336
Tel. 05337/63333, mail: connys@chello.at

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[Donald Campbell]

petr read again eastern countires translates into czech and russian people for me.
maybe just for me
but you know i like you guys and there is no ill will in maybe presenting the eastern block the wrong way.

joe,again very polite,i would have said it to joyce in a different way.
hopefully she gets the drift.

i won't do the worlds and have a bbq sticker throw meet and greet contest.
i want to see some intense,close racing.
drama,tragedy,joy,whatever

but on a top level


it's time for a change,or the whole thing is dead soon enough.
anybody who didn't recognize this yet has a problem.

there is absolutely no place for selfish views.

top riders are enthusiastic about the format
top riders will make this contest memorable over the years
top riders are the ONLY reason for me to do this

i'm putting myself in the shooting range as a sitting duck for all the not so superskilled as the biggest spoiler out there.
i know that,but the choice is:watch it die or do something against it.
with the support of the riders i can make the attempt to stop that tendency.
i honestly hope each country will have a tail of supporters and friends following.

brixlegg has more to offer than the race.

i will also try to get the bigger hotel for most attendees

same situation as in sweden couple years ago-that was cool


joe we are on the same page absolutely,just read your pm

[Pierre Gravel]

This is really cool! The Worlds should be just that, fast, hard and only for the very best of each country.

I know it was just as an example but 20 would be for just enough the US and at least 8 riders should represent Canada:

-Louis Ricard
-Seb Léger
-Mig
-Claude
-CIV
-Pascal "The Rookie" Jean
-Brad Kasha
-Julie



This is in Brixlegg too right?:


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[Joe Iacovelli]

I agree Pierre, it seems like there are quite a few details to work out, but I think most (so far) are in agreement that the kernel of the idea merits the working out of those details.

How do we figure who is eligble in a fair and equitable manner? This past weekend Louis beat George, but this is not prize fighting where Louis then assumes the title. Seb came 2nd in a field of Pro's. Seb is an AM and perhaps not worthy if examined by numbers alone.

There would also seem to need to be a list deeper than 20 as racers decide that they will not or cannot attend.

Would women's class be seperate?

Does anyone get a "pass" (Luca, Mollica, Mitchell) and not have to earn their place in 2010

Etc, etc, etc - right?

I think this is in idea with a lot of balls. The ISSA will have to transform to allow this, or its potential success would negate the validity of it as a governing body. The Worlds this year was poorly attended. Perhaps it is time to turn it on its ear.

I throw the BBQ/sticker toss type contests. 18 of them in 9 years. All are welcome, with many riders having there first run in our kids race last weekend. I believe our sport needs my kind of race, to plant seeds, encorage sprouts, and renew the enthusiasm of us old and tall weeds.

Inclusivity is not what the pinnacle event should be about though. If you have to attend a qualifying race, or series of races to attend, then that ups attendance too. Good. bad and tough choices all the way thru.

I believe Donald is sticking his neck out and asking for legitimate criticism. I believe this a good forum to do so. I do not believe that democracy will (or should) reign though, as often decisions take too long or the end product loses its teeth to become palitable to the lowest common denominator.

That being said, other than how many from which country, what other issues do you all see?

[robert gaisek]

[Kélian Duplain]

uuu? World Championships? No Juniors? For preventing the death of the sport? I don't get the point! I think THIS is a way to kill slalom.

I'm kind of disappointed, I would have liked to come to the worlds again so bad, especially in Europe...

Anyway, to be positive, I like the idea of making it really big!

[silvio endrizzi]

Again Donald is pushing forward the whole thing ... Thanks!

ready to help!

[Stefano Bellingeri]

Dear all,
I read now that Don thought about Italy for one of the four preworlds stop.
It would be wonderful but who will organize that event? And where? Who will sponsor it?
Should it be local organised or there will be a main organiser for the whole four events?
Please let us know more details about the preworlds series.
Thanks
Stefano
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[EMRIK LARSSON]

Sounds great Donald..
Just what the sport needs,
and positive attitude
I'm more than willing to help out..peace EMRIK FROM SWEDEN
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[Donald Campbell]

hey stefano
thanks for your interest and all the valid questions.
after oct 12th the whole deal will start in a subforum which needs to be installed here,i have to ask for this to be done anyway.
all the questions will be answered there.
right now i try to gather input,attract interest(thanks stefano!),raise attention.
please use the main thread right now to discuss things,otherwise it becomes too complicated.

Ed note: This post and the post from Stefano merged into this topic. /Jani

[Donald Campbell]

sweden rocks as always.
i do have positive feedback from sweden,england,germany,switzerland,italy.


where are the main guys from:france,netherlands,czech republic,russia,spain?


did i ´forget anybody?

[Martijn Nijs]

As discussed last weekend, I think it's a fantastic plan!
I'll be working hard to get in better shape and get in!

But then again, I'm not one of the "main guys".

[Sam Gordon]

One of the things you have to ask yourself is "how many races do I go to each year?" Most of us do two or three maximum, the evidence of attendance is on slalomranking.com.

With there being fewer folks at the Worlds this year, it suggests that it is regarded as 'just another race.' Where is the kudos? Did the best racers go? The field at the European Championships was bigger and offered at least a similar standard. If the Worlds has lost its position of respect, then what does being World Champion mean? Surely it should be made attractive again so that racers strive to go to this event above all others. You race to win, so the Worlds gives you the chance of being top of the heap.

If you do just one race a year, then why should that be the Worlds? A little bit of commitment, training and application should be rewarded with a chance at the top slot over and above your fellow countrymen.

It doesn't matter that we are not the 'main guys.' What does matter is that we have something to strive towards - the same system works in cycling and skiing as well as most other sports. To use a pretty yucky phrase, "you've got to be in it to win it."

There are always many other races that are both fun and competitive if you want the occasional racing thrill.

The Worlds should be a culmination of a successful racing campaign for the best that each Nation has to offer.


Sam

From the nation that gave the World Eddie 'The Eagle' Edwards.
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[Donald Campbell]

clarifications of misunderstandings
#1
the same thing we do in europe should be done in the usa.

#2 there is a womens class.

[Stefano Bellingeri]

Sorry for the previous mistake; from now I will use the right post-location.
Thanks Donald for the suggestion. BTW, who should decide how many people from each country? Why should Italy have only three people instead of four, five, etc.? I will read all what have been already posted in the WE. Let's think about. It sounds motivating and challenging to reach the Worlds, next year.
rmn is right: add Trinidad & Tobago!
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[Donald Campbell]

stefano
why should the netherlands have maybe 10 riders ?
without being bad now,how many really fast guys are out there in italy who kill it anywhere,besides italy?
the # of riders per country will be discussed in the near future
not now!
the contests prior to the worlds can open a few doors for riders too.

the final decision is up to me anyway
this is a burden and i have a lot of experienced high class racers guiding me too.

its gonna be fair and square,so let's wait a bit and we will have short discussions on some topics and move from there in a speedy manner.
if italy is interested i would place it early next year because of your safer weather conditions.
england has to find a safe slot in the tournament which is my main interest right now.

i think the tour will be called: "road to destiny"
i will come up with a design and those shirts could be regarded as a fundraiser for more invitations from overseas.
just an idea again,but very likely to happen.

[Michel Dupont]

You are right Donald, sorry for not taking part in the discussion earlier, my translator is claiming the right to go on strike.

A lot of what I had in mind has already come up from other riders : where to hold “qualifying” races, should these have main status (maybe the only ones to have it), how many riders from each country, who gets “a pass”, if no PRO/Am category should this apply also to “qualifying” races… A lot of details to sort out, but with some brainstorming from the riders this can for sure be worked out in a way that is faire to everybody.

It seems like a great project and it’s really good that somebody has the courage and willingness to put it in place.

If everything works out, next season will for sure be a lot more interesting.

Now, we have some training to do...