[2005] Region West Atlantic: USA East

Marion Karr · Post by **Marion Karr** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:37 am

Corky, Thanks for the response. I understand that the rules are structured the way they are and that has to be followed in order to make it fair to all involved. The one question you asked regarding "is the circumstances special" in relationship to the Dixie Cup is a good one. My answer to that is Yes. I would say that due to the fact that we are losing a Prime Status race in this Region with the absence of the WV race makes it so. I am not familiar with the situation regarding Zurich but my question would be this: Was the Zurich race one that occured in a relatively same time period as another Prime race that was cancelled for whatever reason? In other words, did the racers who attended Zurich miss out on a Prime points opportunity within a month of that race being held because the Prime race was cancelled? Just food for thought, especially for the future.
Here is my point, provisions should be made in the rules (and I am not talking about this year, for next and the following) that allows a race status to be changed within a particular region if there is a higher ranking race that was originally scheduled in that region cancelled. This would protect the racers in that region of the world from losing the opportunity to race at that level. Simply, if a region loses a higher rank race due to cancellation or other reasons, then another race organization should have the opportunity to have that higher status awarded to them. This could be called the "Special Circumstance Rule" and would be in the best interest of all racers and would not be detrimental to any.

I totally respect your position on enforcement of the rules and like Keith appreciate what you do for this sport.
Please accept my request to designate the 2nd Annual Downhillbillies Dixie Cup, to be held the first weekend in November of 2006 (or close to that date) as a Prime Event for 2006 unless Dave Gale is able to put together his race next year. As I said earlier, Dave is not only a friend but a Charter Member of the DHB and I will not do anything to surplant his race's position. Please let me know what I need to do to secure this status for the DHB organization for next year.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:19 am

It seems like you think that I can just decide whatever I want and then it's ok. I don't see it like this. I don't stand over the rules. This is the first time there has been so much "protests" about this. I have been quite hard with many other events as well. I don't know if this case is special in any way. Just look at the Zurich race recently (a Basic Status)...

1 Luca Giammarco
2 Ramon Königshausen
3 Christoph Baumann
4 Chris Hart
5 Aki "Von Glasow"
6 Dhyan Fischer
7 Balthasar Weber
8 Marcel Hug

If everybody has to follow the rules except me I will put myself in a very difficult situation. If there is anything wrong with the current rules then let's change them. I don't have the power to do what you ask of me. It's not that I don't want to give you the status. Or that you don't deserve it. It's just not correct. At least with the current rules. Of course you can allow to stretch the rules in some cases but is this such a case?

Have a look at the European region forum. There is already big discussions about next years schedule with statuses and who should have the World Championships.

The idea behind the statuses is to set them in a neautral way before you are colored by who is coming and so on. It should not be that suddenly because Luca decides to go or not to go to a race that the event status should change.
Now first you set status. Then racers decide if they want to come. Not the other way around. Ask yourself, if Jason Mitchell and Chris Barker wouldn't have come, would we still have had the same discussion?

Keith Hollien · Post by **Keith Hollien** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:12 am

Corky,
I understand what you have said about the status of NC Dixie Cup, but I think it should get prime status.
No matter what you decide I want to thank you for all of your hard work on the rankings.

Keith, Teams Radikal & Pocket Pistols & Oust.

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:40 pm

Good Luck with the Race Marion. I am bumbed that I can not make it. Started or attempted to skate last week. The knee is crap, but I posted a 10:44 sec on my Cyber Slalom and was 2 seconds off Gumbys best time when we skated our hill. Here is hoping I can make it to your race next year. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws. To my Canadian Bros " How's it going EH."

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:19 pm

Well considering you remove your hair from the Top of your head by choice and I don't you can still carry quite a bit up there, EH!

I just want to make sure The Sk8Park and MB get their just do!

Marion Karr · Post by **Marion Karr** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:56 pm

Claude Regnier wrote:Just a Slight correction Marion!

The Ottawa Sk8park/Sk8city - Claude & MB

Thanks to all the others sponsors. This is going to be a lot of FUN!

I got it changed...I was doing that off the top of my head and well, you know I am challenged in that regard!

Mike Cividino · Post by **Mike Cividino** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:34 pm

Marty Schaub wrote:Sorry Civ,

I should have had more coffee. I went back and found it was Harms I was thinking about not you. Damn, now I owe a bottemless pit of a Canadian some beers......

BUT, the statement still stands, you are no mid-pack racer in Open, that WAS a snow job....

bottomless?....i might make you eat those words...or drink em....

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:22 pm

Just a Slight correction Marion!

The Ottawa Sk8park/Sk8city - Claude & MB

Thanks to all the others sponsors. This is going to be a lot of FUN!

William Tway · Post by **William Tway** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:19 pm

To fuel my stoke...I'm eatin' PRIME Rib for dinner tonight.

Nice job Mr. Karr.

Marion Karr · Post by **Marion Karr** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:51 pm

At the time we decided to put on this race the WV race was still uncertain but not cancelled. Out of a deep respect and friendship with Dave G (who by the way is CORE DHB and a Charter MEMBER) I did not feel right about undermining his race's status by requesting that our race be elevated to Prime Status. Corky, if you remember I did email you asking about our status back in August but you are correct in the fact I did not specifically request this elevation.
Please look at our sign up list! It reflects the best of the best on the East Coast, in the country, and from Canada. With Dave G's situation as it is, I feel that you should reconsider your decision to keep this race a BASIC. Who would be hurt by this decision? No one. With the loss of the Prime race in WV this year the loss of Prime event basically penalizes the racers in this part of the country/world.
I understand that the DHB is a brand new organization on the radar screen of slalom/downhill groups in the country but we have been fortunate enough to have the support of a tremendous amount of highly experienced people in addition to a major group of sponsors. Here is who is behind this event in no particular order:

Longboards By Fatboy
Pocket Pistols
Loaded Carving Systems
Insect Skateboards
Bell Sports
Khiro
Bozi Boards
Sk8kings
Purple Skunk Skate Shop
Subsonic Skateboards
Pavel Skates
Bahne Skateboards
Sector 9
Rayne Skateboards
Landyachtz
Delicious Skateboards (Tommy Harwood)
Alan Sidlo
Ed Lynn/Pleasure Tools
Oust Bearings
The Ottawa Sk8park/Sk8city - Claude & MB
Statesville Convention and Vistors Bureau
Downtown Statesville Development Corporation
Century 21 Realty/Eddleman Realty
City of Statesville
Winston-Salem Parks And Recreation Dept.
Oakbrook Graphic Services
ExecQuest, Inc.
Delany's Sports Bar and Grill
Concrete Wave Magazine (covering the event as well as helping sponsor)
Juice Magazine (covering the event and helping sponsor)
877 Skates
Dex Skateboards

And there are possibly going to be more added.....this, in my humble opinion, does not look like a BASIC race.

Corky, I realize we are a week a way, and rules are rules. However, please do not allow my inexperience to keep this race from getting what it appears is overwhelming supported by many in the slalom community the status of Prime.

Thank you for all you do for slalom racing.

Jeff Goad · Post by **Jeff Goad** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:45 pm

its all a joke to me, st louis is 3 years deep but still a basic.

Venues eligible for "Main" Status (i.e. have held races annually for more than one year)

Jackson, Mississippi

Athens, Georgia

St. Louis, Missouri

Vista, New York

Fayetteville, West Virginia

D.C.

its dead.........................................for me!

Marty Schaub · Post by **Marty Schaub** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:59 pm

Sorry Civ,

I should have had more coffee. I went back and found it was Harms I was thinking about not you. Damn, now I owe a bottemless pit of a Canadian some beers......

BUT, the statement still stands, you are no mid-pack racer in Open, that WAS a snow job....

Marty Schaub · Post by **Marty Schaub** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:48 pm

Would anyone with the patience and time like to find when Marion first posted about this race? I believe/know that he was posting on it well before the 4th of September. Now please remember that I am a neophyte this year, but after seeing the posts out there "announcing" races next year, wouldn't Marion's posts prior to 9/04, the "cut off", satisfy this criteria?

Also, I believe there were posts discussing this very topic, taking the WV status for NC, well before now. Again, wouldn't this satify Corky's stated criteria? The bottom line here is that Marion did not want to step on WV's toes and ask for thier status designation until the race was officially dead.

2 final points

1.) Can't we make this work to the racers benefit? Isn't that what this is all for?

2.) For Mike Civ to call himself a "Mid pack open racer" is absolute horse hooey. I guess in Canada, you try to blow a little snow from time to time. No chance Mike, I have seen you race, if you race open I consider you one of the odds on favorites!!!!!! And I do remember some discussion awhile back where you did consider yourself "Pro" You owe Syd and I a couple of beers for this "Snow Job" Ha-Ha!!!

Jack Smith · Post by **Jack Smith** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:47 am

Corky,

To be blunt, it is absolutely ridiculous that this race is not being rated as a prime event.

This is not World Sup Ski Racing, it's not even kiddie soccer.

Besides you, is there anyone else who has voiced any objection to awarding this race prime status?

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:52 am

The NC race was officially announced a little bit short of the 2 month limit. That you could have been forgiving with. But after officially announcing you must also decide the status. One could have imagined it being decided very quickly in this case and it would have been ok by stretching the rules a little. Now this was not really the problem too much at the time since both the 2 Main and 2 Prime statuses had already been set for the USA East region. If "the Mountain State Slalom Skate Bridge Day" event was uncertain to be done at that time then that discussion to change that Prime for the NC race should have been taken at that point. To do it now one or two weeks ahead of the event is not right I think.

Now it seems like it's me not being nice to you who have decided to go to this event but the time advance rule is there to also take into consideration those who maybe would have shown up if it would have been a Prime status from the begining. So in the end whatever you decide there are some people not being happy. That's why we have rules to help us.

In the best cases I should not even be involved in how the statuses are set in the different regions (except my own of course). See the guidelines for setting statuses. It should be up to each region to decide their event statuses. This should still be done according to the rules of course as much as you will trust that other regions will handle their statuses the same way.

World Ranking points are not everything. And you must always remind yourself that World Ranking statuses are set in a whole other perspective. That was what I tried to explain in my other post a little. Just because some races have a low World Ranking status does not mean they are not good or not important. Wich made me remember another of those important reasons to go to certain events even if they score low towards the World Ranking. There may be other series and cups going on on a more regional level that could very well be just as important to enter.

Mike Cividino · Post by **Mike Cividino** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:13 am

Jack Smith wrote:Marty...

Me pro? I'm a middle of the pack open racer.

likewise.

Jack Smith · Post by **Jack Smith** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:00 am

Marty...

Me pro? I'm a middle of the pack open racer.

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:44 am

Registered Pros for the DHB Dixie Cup:

Jason Mitchell
Chris Barker
Noah Heinle
Claude Regnier
Keith Hollien
Bobby Mandarino

Don't know how these guys declare themselves:

Sean Dawkins
Troy Smart
Paul Howard
Mike Cividino

I'm pretty certain Ohm, Parsons, Favero and Lenny Poage all race in the open class.

Of course, Lenny's a big sandbagger.

If we could only get Brady and DaveG to race. Boy, we'd then have plenty of pros in the field!

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:39 am

Corky, since the system is still in it's infancy and we want it to be strong there is no reason that the unused status could not be awarded to NC.

Regardless of the date of actual NCDSA registration or not. It was talked about for several months and most people had it on their event calendars since early August. It's not like a lot of people are really able to make a Slalom race in Novemeber anyway. Adding a Prime event in December is Bogus whether or not it is dated before the cut-off.

Europe could very well have missed out on two if not Stockholm would have taken advantage of the situation and organized an indoor event in December.

Let's get real here. The rules are there to show some degree of organisation. Bending them when there are legitimate reasons to can only benefit the entire scene. Most peoples season ends at different periods as the weather permits. Why don't we drop all the points earned for any races that were'nt completed in their entirety as set out in the schedule of events. We want to reward the racers. Why don't we force all organisers to have the contest registration held on one site?

Well we also need to award the organisers for a job well done. Are there any Europeans that would have come over for the race had it been announced earlier? They couldn't make Morro Bay. The World Champioships of 2005, remember? What about dropping the status of the European Champioships of 2006 since it was announced later then the 3rd Annual Dovercourt Open on the same date and ours will again be a Prime status event.

Until we have a full slate of events fighting for all the big points i think they should be awarded as merited.

Marty Schaub · Post by **Marty Schaub** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:16 am

Marion mentioned once that if 8 pros run in the dixie cup that the points awarded would be increased. Is this true? And do we have 8? Jack do you run pro class? I read that Civ does. I believe that we may squeak 8. BTW I don't....Maybe Tucker will declare.......

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:39 pm

The Dixie Cup will not have prime status because the organizers (and I will admit I've had a small part) waited too long to announce the race and put it on the NCDSA.com contest calendar.

We didn't wait too long so as to inconvenience the skaters as we almost immediately had a full slate. It has since backed off a little, but that's to be expected. What the Downhillbillies did was make absolutely sure they had all their organizational points lined up before they announced a race. In other words, instead of rushing in and doing half ass job of it, the DHBs did what could almost be called a professional job of it. They organized, got city support, got cash sponsorships, got lots of swag lined up, got a tremendous commitment for volunteer support and made sure that skaters would travel to a premium (although not "prime") event.

Unfortunately, in doing all this the race was announced "too late" to receive Prime status. I believe an event must be announced three months in advance in order to qualify as prime. The November 5-6 race was not made available for sign up until the early part of September. That's two months. Even though the race was announced as early as June as being more than likely, it became official too late to receive prime consideration.

That's the rules and that's the breaks. So, as a skater you have to ask yourself of which you prefer: a jack-leg thrown-together event where everybody goes home pissed but has prime points or a well-organized, fun cooperative race where you have a blast the whole weekend but miss the prime points?

Mike Cividino · Post by **Mike Cividino** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:18 am

thats all well and good but I dont understand why these points cant be given out? Would it be so wrong to award a prime status?.

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:17 am

Corky we will be announcing the date and location of The Texas Slalom Sizzler by the end of the month. We are hoping since this is our third year that our event will attract more skaters since we are having it in Central TEXAS. The race usually happens the last weekend of Feb. Will keep everyone updated. My question is where exactly does TEXAS fall in. Are we in the south or central. Are we basic or Prime. Either way we are hoping for a bigger turnout this year. Being Prime would definately get us a bigger turnout. Either way we want to spread the slalom stoke. We have paid our dues, by sticking to something we believe in. We have raced on the GRS Tour and supported GRS. Of this I am proud of. Something special is happening in TEXAS. The slalom bug is catching on. More of the old school skaters in Austin and Houston, San Marcos area are proving they a worthy of being Texas Outlaws. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws.

Jack Smith · Post by **Jack Smith** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:17 am

Corky, so what's your answer?

I think it would be a shame if the NC race is not awarded the same status as the WV race.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:49 am

Mike,

This situation could very well be a nightmare but so far we have been lucky. I mean what to do if a World Championship would be canceled? I have been thinking about this since the start of the ranking and I have been at many races where a lot of rain, and there have been many of those, have reminded me of this.

It's a shame when regions don't make use of the few higher statuses that exists for them. This year you are not alone. All the three largest regions (USA west, USA east and Europe) will have one unused Prime status. Europe could very well have missed out on two if not Stockholm would have taken advantage of the situation and organized an indoor event in December.

The statuses are not a measurement of how strong a field the events will have or if the event is of high quality or not. They can't be since they are set in advance. They are only there to show what point table for the world ranking that will be used. There might very well be other events just as strong even though less points will be given towards the World Ranking. Some events the serious slalom racers will just have to enter to compete for the higher World Ranking points. Other events you will attend because it's close by, for competition practice, a nice event or for the pure fun of it.

The Canada region have a lot more potential too that has not been used over the last three years (as many other smaller regions). Canada only have one Main and one Prime status per year but have only made use of 2 Prime statuses over the last three years.

So far it seems not to be an unusual case to miss out on some statuses.

Mike Cividino · Post by **Mike Cividino** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:09 am

its it not possible to assign the points that would go to the WV race that isnt happening this season to the NC race. I think it is certainly worthy of being a prime statues, with the scale of the race, the calibre of racers and the fact that without it the US east is short possible points. Those of you in europe have many races close together, we must travel far and I for one would like to see this race get a little more respect as far as points go.

Chris Favero · Post by **Chris Favero** » Wed May 25, 2005 3:18 am

hey corky,its cool,i should have had my act more together.i assume this is a lot of work for you and you do it for the love of slalom,thanks,cf

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Wed May 25, 2005 2:53 am

Chris,

You're just in time (2 months) to post your demand for prime status but actually it should be decided at least 2 months before. I just updated the top post. I'm sorry but I must have forgot to do that before when it was pretty much decided with the following for USA East...

Main status (2)
[Main] Red Clay Cup April 29 - May 1 Athens, Georgia (Prime last year)
[Main] The Farm August 6-7 Vista, New York (Main last year)

Prime status (2)
[Prime] Luna Slalom Jam April 16-17 Jackson, Mississippi (Main last year)
[Prime] Mountain State Slalom Skate Bridge Day October 16 Fayetteville, West Virginia (Prime last year)

Almost all the higher statuses are set for 2005 now. Have a look here.

Chris Favero · Post by **Chris Favero** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:15 am

actually,could this be main,this is THE SECOND year for this race.cf

Chris Favero · Post by **Chris Favero** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:13 am

corky i am submitting the Chi-Town Shootout for prime consideration.this is part of the Grass Roots Series and is to be held on 7/23/05.this is the second year for this event.thanks,cf

Kevin M. Gamble · Post by **Kevin M. Gamble** » Sat May 07, 2005 12:13 am

Rick,
What annual DC race are you referring to that would be eligible for a main status?

Marty Schaub · Post by **Marty Schaub** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:35 pm

OK,

Most of you know that the Red Clay was my first race in years. But I would pony it up as a Major any day.

Six, in order to mark you as a Major, what has to happen?

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Fri May 06, 2005 12:43 pm

Now is the time to begin discussing 2006.

Venues eligible for "Main" Status (i.e. have held races annually for more than one year)

Jackson, Mississippi

Athens, Georgia

St. Louis, Missouri

Vista, New York

Fayetteville, West Virginia

D.C.

Venues eligible for "Prime" Status (i.e. have held at least one race)

Boston

Chicago

South Carolina

Venues eligible for "Basic" Status (i.e. have not held a race)

North Carolina

Florida

I would also like to discuss the possibility of getting a "Major" status in the USA East sometime in the next few years

Eric Brammer · Post by **Eric Brammer** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:31 am

Boy, I Do like that map! Take a look, Delaware, N.J., and Rhode Island get sent out to sea, and Vermont defects to Canada!!

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Mon May 02, 2005 4:37 pm

It appears that Chicago's race is set for the weekend of July 23rd. TS, Hybrid and a skatepark competition. Downtown Chicago...I talked to a dozen well ranked skaters in Athens and they're seriously considering making it in for this one.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:51 am

Almost all the higher statuses are set for 2005 now. Have a look here.

Dave Gale · Post by **Dave Gale** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:39 pm

The 4th Annual Mountain State Slalom Skate is slated for the 16th of October..I'm also working w/ the town and the state to give us a venue on The 15th! There will be no lat minute surprises re: the hill this year!! The old hill from 2002 and 2003 will be the one!!

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:20 am

Slalom St. Louis, May 28-30 St. Louis, Missouri
Mountain State Slalom Skate Bridge Day, October Fayetteville, West Virginia (Prime last year)

Only one of these will get a Prime status. With the new time advance rule a Prime status must be set minimum 2 months before the competition. I.e. for St. Louis to be a Prime it has to be set before March 28.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:45 am

Here is the current region limit between USA West and USA East. It's up to you guys to set it up differently if you wish.

Gary Fluitt · Post by **Gary Fluitt** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:10 am

though I am not from "the region" USA East, I would agree that Red Clay and Farm are secured as Main.
I'll post my thoughts on USA West over there.
Gary F.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:48 am

Joe, I also agree that the Farm looks like the event to have the second Main status but you shouldn't convince me but rather your region buddies. There are no date for the farm yet though. Once that is settled and there are nobody else screaming for that Main status I'm all for setting the stauses as soon as possible. You guys decide really, not me.

Eddy, I could make an exception with the "Time Advance Rule" for your Texas competition since you did post it quite early and that you didn't know about that rule until January and that you soon after that published the date. But... quickly write a post in the "West Atlantic: USA West" topic and lobby for your event the best you can and why you think it is worth that Prime status. If there are no protests or even some positive remarks you might have your Prime. And if you think you can get 8 pros coming down to your competition it would be a great point in your favor (and for World Ranking points as well).

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:37 pm

I feel the love bro. I just wanted to make a point that we do exist. We maybe out in the middle of nowhere but we exist. So do we get PRIME STATUS. I know I have the FLU right now and I am running HIGH fevers. But we are the first contest in the series so we should get some recognition. If I splat on the asphalt do I not bleed. Sorry Keith Hollein I haven't learned how to slide on my knees yet, I prefer the jump off your board at 25+ and let out a load feminine scream method. Jeff Goad I feel your PAIN, I feel your PAIN. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaw. uuuummmmm GRINDLINE.

Joe Iacovelli · Post by **Joe Iacovelli** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:02 pm

Corky,

Please accept my suggestion that the Farm be the other main race for 2005 East.

It's proximity to the major New York airports makes it easy and cheap to get there. It is possible with the low dollar it will be cheaper to get there from Europe than from the rest of the United States.

Our new hill provides superlative racing. The town of Bethel has promissed unrestricted access to the soapbox derby hill for two days.

I expect the talent pool to increase above the highwater mark of last year.

New York City is less than one hour away and the train station is nearby for before or after tourism oportunities.

Then there is the party....

Obviously this is open for discussion. I'd be particularly interested to hear from Farm veterans.

Joe

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:47 pm

Eddy Martinez wrote:Sept 17 th 2004 under the North America section Rick Stanziale anounces that the Texas Sizzler will be held in February 2005. That to me is 6 months ago. So that beats the 2 moth deadline. We may have not been posted in the correct region but we do exist. Both of our events our insured. I truly love our sport and will continue to support Grassroots slalom. I am doing every thing exactly that the other contest promoters are doing. Oh well. Anyone have any opinions on this subject. Eddy Texas Outlaws.

USA East gets 2 Main and 2 Prime races. Eddy please hear the love in my voice when you're reading this, but I don't think you want to run a "Main" race in Texas just yet (heck, I'm shaking in my Vans knowing that I've committed to hold a "Main" race here in Athens this year.

I haven't talked to Ricky since Corky assigned status to Luna and Red Clay, hope he's cool with it (I'm sure he will be, it ain't about points.....it's about having fun). The fact that we can rotate status should help to promote slalom skateboarding throughout our region (USA East).

Peace, love, and our new Grindline park will be finished in a few weeks,
6

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:53 am

Sept 17 th 2004 under the North America section Rick Stanziale anounces that the Texas Sizzler will be held in February 2005. That to me is 6 months ago. So that beats the 2 month deadline. We may have not been posted in the correct region but we do exist. Both of our events are insured. I truly love our sport and will continue to support Grassroots slalom. I am doing everything exactly that the other contest promoters are doing. Oh well. Anyone have any opinions on this subject? Eddy Texas Outlaws.

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:57 am

By the way, time is out for Luna getting a Main Status so let's go for this for the spring.

Main Status: Red Clay Cup April 29 - May 1 Athens, Georgia (Prime last year)

Prime status: Luna Slalom Jam April 16-17 Jackson, Mississippi (Main last year)

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:40 am

Eddy, seems like that T-shirt could come in handy

but I'm afraid it wont help you with your World Ranking status. Using the new "Time Advance rule" it is minimum 2 months ahead of competition for setting a Prime Status. Secondly it is supposed to be up to each region to propose, discuss and set statuses. I will only jump in as a last option. Thirdly Texas is belonging to the USA West region not this USA East region. Actually it is right on the edge. The current limit between the two regions are the boarder between Texas and Louisiana and then the state boarders straight up.

If you want to do another Texas event later on put in a post on the "USA West region" topic in good time (with date of the competition). If you think you can get 8 pro skaters to show up you will be a good choice for a Prime status.

Rick Stanziale · Post by **Rick Stanziale** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:19 pm

Eddy that's fantastic! A race in a trailer park? Why didn't I think of that!

Seriously, give me a call this weekend when you have a chance.

BTW...I had to take the Grass Roots series message board down, there was a PHP virus going around and I had work info on the same server. I've resolved that situation and will try to get it back online soon.

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:14 am

Hans if you make our event Prime status there is a Texas Outlaw T-shirt in it for you. Consider it a gratuity not a bribe. Plus according to Joe I the chicks dig the T-shirts. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws. You can check out the T-shirt at www.bonelessone.com under the galleries section, go to reader submission and you can see them under # 40 or 41.

Eddy Martinez · Post by **Eddy Martinez** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:05 am

February 25 - 26 will be the date for the Texas Cold Fussion Sizzler. Just out of curiousity we our going to have our contest insured. Does that make it Prime. My city of Harlingen is pretty interested on Fridays single lane event which will be held at a trail park hoping to get plenty of exposure. Saturday we race in the upper valley in a pretty secluded area. Much like Luna Slalom Jam every competitor leaves with a contest t-shirt. Will be hitting the vendors up for schwag soon. Will keep everyone posted. For those of you that can't make it down to TEXAS I will see you at Luna Slalom Jam and the Georgia Cup. Ricky and 66 you bros are the soul of slalom and good role models. Your Amigo Eddy Texas Outlaws.

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