World Championship candidate: Brixlegg 2006 please read

[Vincent Berruchon]

Hey J-Rad, Croatia is forgotten?
You seem to talk about Switzerland but it's not clear where you want to do it?

Without offense, but I have to react:

Here is a video where our Giant will be held:
http://www.wideo.ch/filme/inline-adsl.wmv

THe video seems like a joke here!!! Roller skates with sticks slaloming between polls and dance music background!!!!!
WTF Irie J-Rad??? and we can't see the spot : that's torture!!

We don't need any international coveriges. Our target group is in Switzerland in our region, where 200'000 people live.

So it seems great for a Swiss championship...

Ride on!

[Vincent Berruchon]

Don talk about all that for a long time now....
Serious candidates should have show up now.
It seems that the only other candidate is Jadranko.. with PS-Contest I suppose?

Paris project should be big this year too - it will probably take place in a big Paris city event - Jani is the one who know about .. but it seems that we cannot compete with the Brixlegg combo as we are not candidate.

A big event need time to organize, Donald is right to ask for a approval as soon as possible.
It's time to know now.
So Jadranko and eventual otherscandidates, bring strong facts quickly!

And the Worlds are the Worlds, but we can have some other big races with big media: Euro or international cup... it's not a problem!

[Ramón Königshausen]

Coop? Why not Migros?

rmn

[Donald Campbell]

easy j-rad let it go
our discussion won't bring a thing and i didn't start this topic to have a brawl with you,ok?

[Jadranko Radovanovic]

Of course we have no big skate-related sponsors in our event.

But the question is does we need big SKATE-RELATED sponosrs in our event ?

Who cares from where the money comes.

The important thing is that we have the same target group as our sponsors.
the young people, the same target group of the big non SKATE-RELATED Company's, like telecommunication Company's, Sport Stors and so on...

CP-Eyewear.com use Maurus photo from Morro 2004 for their ad in the 7thsky magazine ! Full page with the picture from Maurus.

Who is supporting the Freestyle Tour, which goes to the school and teach the kids how to skate and what they should eat to don't be fat. It's all about skating (longboard, slalom, freestyle) Not only one SKATE-RELATED Company !
PHILIPS, CREDIT SUISSE, SUVA, COOP, NOKIA are the company's.

You needn't to have Switzerland as your target group, but the spectators come from the region where the race is. They don't dirve 300 kilometers to see slalom in Brixlegg...

It's not important how who organise his event. It's only important to have respect from the other peoples work.

I don't have a background like you, i don't need any lessons in media-coverage from you. There are a lot of people here who give us some advices, who have respect for what we do and with which energy we do it. Nobody of us has his/her owen company, and nobody of us has to distinguish himself/herself. We have the support from our companies where we work
and they count the for day's which we are off from Work befor and after the contest as normal work day's.
There is no cash in this sport, because there aren't many people who do this sport. Our target is to grow this sport, because we love it and we do it now for 7 year's.

I don't know what my ego is. I never say somthing bad about a competition, if i say somthing, than what they can do better and not that i can do it better. I know what happened in Grueningen 2003, and i know who has help us. I know when Pierre needed help this year. I helped him and i don't expect that he has to give me somthing back or that i haven't to pay my entry fee. I will help him every year again if he needs my help! I haven't any business in this sport and i'm not interessted to earn money from this. I'm happy when i'm see happy people like Pierre last year in Grueningen.

/J-Rad

[Donald Campbell]

THE BIG MOUTH PUT ON A BIG LIST WITH ACTIONS THAT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES

THAT'S WHAT A BIG MOUTH IS GOOD FOR

[Donald Campbell]

j-rad

emotions?

stay calm

i don't want to give you lessons in media-coverage,my background speaks for itself.
i don't have switzerland as my main target group,as you can clearly see when you reread my previous posts.

i can't see any big skate-related sponsors in your event either.
sponsor who do have an interest in using material from the worlds for their promotional tasks.

which actually helps the sport grow.
what's bigger and better than having VANS and CARHARTT on board
two industry giants-FACT


you have your ego i have mine
yes j-rad the worlds are the thing the big dogs want to see-nothing else...

[Jadranko Radovanovic]

Now the emotions are in!

the question i have right now is:who can make a bigger and better event in europe?

i didn't see anything that big yet.

We will think about to candidate for the World's in 30 day's !

The question is what do you understand under a big event !
Makes an event big, when you have 10'000 Eur price money ?

Brixlegg as location:
2776 habitant's somewhere in Austria.

Media:
Will the European and US Magazins bring any spectators ?
Why the tv don't make a live coverige on the race side at a big screen ?
We had a lot TV coveriges, Latvia, Antibes, Paris .....

Promotions:
What is the target group of Slalom ?

sponsors:
How much did you get ? 50'000 Euro ?

You don't know nothing about the other event's because no one has posted somthing, but the big mouth is here !

Is it only possible to do the event if it's the World's ?

Here is a video where our Giant will be held:
http://www.wideo.ch/filme/inline-adsl.wmv

More than 5000 Spectators and a live tv-coverige on a big screen.

By the way, the production cost more than 10'000 Eur...
By the way, the timing is another 7000 Eur...
By the way, 80'000 Folder's and distribution for the whole region another 5000 Eur...
By the way, we are supported by a marketing company (www.kilogramm.ch), who organise the car free day event in Zurich and this is a big event in my eyes !

And that's only a 1/4 cost of the whole event...
We don't need any international coveriges. Our target group is in Switzerland in our region, where 200'000 people live.

/J-Rad


Let the other organiser's the time which they need !!!

[Chris Eggers]

Ok

Don.

Vote from Eggers: Go
I will be there...........July 22/23. is marked.

[Donald Campbell]

another thing floating around in my mind-probably the way to go:
ams start early in the morning around 8.00 am-max 3 runs per entrant-the we have a go on the track at 9.00 am.
anyway
the races will start early for the ams-that's the way it will be.
expect me and the crew to at the site around 6.00 am to set things up,mabe even earlier.
i have NO problems with that and the CREW neither.
i want to separate the am class from the pro class timewise in order of "must appear now".
this way i can avoid having everybody at the tracks to try them out.
the tracks will be fresh for each and everyone who enters NOBODY will have more runs than anyone else.
the system is easy as follows:you get a card and it gets stamped each time you practice on the course.once you had your runs IT'S OVER
the race will start immediately then-this is fair to each and everybody who enters the contest and it makes things way more predictable.
we will have no stretcho shirts for this event either-show your colors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as an extra the timing people will face a strict regiment from my side to STAY at their place all the time-they wil have food,drinks,toilet at hand and they will have to work very hard.
as an extra i will have at least one photgrapher at hand to support the rtest of the world on each day with photos and i will make sure that the timing results will be online the same day.
so we have an immense impact on the scene who will be watching this around the world,there's another feature i would like to include,but this is too fresh to be mentioned now.
if it happens-cool you will see it then.

[Martin Drayton]

I understand the need to see if anyone else is willing to hold a World Champs, but here we have someone who has ALREADY done a huge amount of preparatory work and sounds like everything has been thought of.
Donald has catered at the highest level for every aspect of the event as far as I can see.
It may be necessary to have separate qualifying days, Jadranko is right when he talks about spectators ability to concentrate for only small periods.
Sam is right...Surely the sooner we let Donald "have at it", the sooner and better everything will be organised. The longer the lead-in time for an event of this magnitude, the better...
Just IMHO...

[Sam Gordon]

If the eyes are the windows on the soul, then Donald has a rich vein of skate coursing through him:



Either that, or he's in line to be the next Michelin man. Nunc est bibendum. Stein bitte.


It now seems right that the Worlds come to Europe. Jack's excellent events at Morro Bay have set the precedents and benchmark. That two race organisers in Europe wish to hold the World Championships is testament to this.

With the volume of races and manufacturers in Europe, a global view of slalom skating should be addressed. Perhaps the Championships could run between continents on alternate years provided that interest and organisation is maintained. That is not to disclude Africa and Australasia for example, but currently there is lesser communication from these continents towards being the next major host.

Campbell's bid is in position, sponsors are lined up and he seems to have surrounded himself with a good organisational team. Why not go ahead with an already functioning operation?

The longer a decision is put off, the longer seeds of doubt are sewn in sponsors' minds. Larger companies typically sort out their annual marketing budget and advertising strategy many months in advance of its outlay, often coinciding with the financial year. If slalom racing can show both attitude and an organised, progressive front then sponsors might be more pre-disposed to increase outlay for future years.

Surely we can only gain from taking an early decision and once made, then the minutiae such as contestant numbers, alternative events due to bad weather, timing, transport and accommodation can be resolved.

[Donald Campbell]

i will consider your input into my thoughts on the race and make things possible.
fact will be that i do include a strict regiment for the pro-entrants.
there will be enough time for ams and for pros and inbetween those races absolutely nobody will enter any track at any time without permit.the tracks will be different and they will be reserved for the contestant group exclusively at that time of day.

this means f.e. giant/sat ams from 10-1400pm

pros from 15.00-till end

this makes the event far more predictable for the orga-team and also for the racers attending the race.

what happens is-AGAIN-no pro on the am-course and no am on the pro-course.
no exceptions-nothing.
tight schedule.

[Sven Lippert]

the concept sounds solid. donald knows how to arrange events. the area is perfect. the tracks are perfect. the skatepark is perfect. the sponsors are rich. the beer tastes good and is cheap. do we need more ?

i mean there are other threads about this topic going on i know, but let`s think about limitation of riders of the top 80 in every class for the worlds. its more a matter of a structured organisation !!!!

not everybody can afford 5 or 6 races a season to catch enough points to enter the worlds, even if he skates among the top 15 for example in his class if he shows up on a contest.

some thoughts of a "little shabby amateur" ranking 154 or whatever in this ranking stuff.

cheers
svenne

[Donald Campbell]

jani
i can easily pile up a big number of people to get this going.
the question i have right now is:who can make a bigger and better event in europe?

i didn't see anything that big yet.

i want 30 days,because,i don't want to waste any time-time is precious.
i got my act already together.
what i am offering has never been offered before.
if there's anybody out there who can top my package,please let him speak up now or never.


i don't want to wait as long as most of the race organizers did in the past.
this event is announced NOW and not somewhere next year
we are working on the hompeage NOW to get things going and to create HEAT.
PROMOTION in any serious biz starts way earlier than it is done in slalom-look at bigger street-contest and how far in advance they are announced.this draws more attention.

it won't help to wait too long.
my background is concert promotion,tour-merchandising,tour-promotion/management.
i worked for acts such as motorhead,iron maiden,ac/dc and so on just to name a few.
my bigger projects were the "MONSTERS OF ROCK" during the 90's,i was responsible for the whole merchandising circus and coordination of promotion.
all things coinciding with a tour are prepared at least 6-9 months in advance-and that happens for a good reason-to have the project in save blankets,to have enough time for extra planning,setting up anything involved and MOST IMPORTANT-to keep it PROFESSIONAL.


trust me-i know EXACTLY what i am doing here.

and i also want to see results from the community NOW.

that's my way of working-i am not used to waiting,nor do i keep other people waiting with decisions.
people who know me personnally know that,that's the only way to go and to make things happen.
go and ask my team-or reflect on how old PAVEL is right now.with the COMBINED work of me and MY TEAM we left some marks on this year's races,which is pretty good for a newcomer brand .

i hope nobody feels offended right now,but i am very DETERMINED on that project.
i also don't want this to sound arrogant,i really do hope you all see my point.

[Jani Soderhall]

a voting time of 30 days is enough for anybody taking this serious.

But maybe we should give other candidates a chance to get their act together and present their proposals.

Once we know the candidates, the voting can certainly be done in 30 days.

/Jani

[Heiko Schöller]

Why a voting!!! When the worlds are in Brixxleg we are all happy. Nobody can compete with 10.000€ and the Skatepark and the GS and the cheap hotels and the nice friendly locals and the prices for Am´s...!!!!! I was last year on Dons event in Brixxleg and it was a blast!!!

Stop writing here the Worls must go to Brixxleg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don for President.

[Steve Hinzen]

As I said before, Donald has my fullest support.
I've been working, competing, racing, training and travelling with Donald for one year now and all I can say is:

I totally believe in Donald's project for the Worlds 2006.
Don is a dynamic and true personalety who definetely can pull this off. He has a long experience in skateboarding (not only slalom) and he knows the right people. The rest is details.
So my advice to everybody out there:

PEDAL TO THE METAL !

b.t.w.: a voting time of 30 days is enough for anybody taking this serious.

[Donald Campbell]

you are both right both -in some way....
it is very very hard to get the best of both worlds.
i have certain ideas on how to make this sport more attractive,which i will bring into next year's race.
i want it to be more appealing to the broader masses-definitely.
that's a big piece of work which has been nglected by some organisers completely,as far as i can see it.so i will try to improve things on the track and in the presentational media field.

one small example:the pool-race will be the hardest ever,combining for the first time ever-on this level-us vs euro.
so i get attention from different magazines which are more pool-street oriented.
attention which is desperately needed in order to make this sport bigger.
i did most of the euro-events this year to see what could be done better.some contests were done in a very good way-others had thir faults,some really sucked.

i did my homework and the sport needs some people with experience or a general overview,which doesn't only reflect slalom but the total of it all to bring the sport to a new level.

next year will have ams and pros but in a new order.
this contest will be held at a certain quality level and as sad as it seems,some people might not be able to enter due to their rankings.

i don't have a certain idea for any restrictions yet,i want to play it fair for each and everybody-so no flame-wars on that topic yet.
if you deide to give me a go-i will work fast,hard and efficient to bring the utmost quality level to that contest-it won't be a cakewalk-definitely.

or why do you think this contest is named:WHO'S THE RULER?"

[Jadranko Radovanovic]

Frederic,

i don't want to close any doors ? But the big question is where we want to go with the sport ?

Should it be an amateur sport or want we to become one day a professional sport.

If we want to grow the sport we have to do some decissions.
I don't know how long some top rider's will travel and spend some money if nothing happens. I don't want to say it's because of the money, but it's from year to year harder to get any sponsors if the sport doesn't grow. It's a lot of work what you have to do to organise a big event, and there are about 400 hour's to work all things out.

If you ride the post here on slalomskateboarder, the people are every time talking about the long waiting time ! And the question is how you can make the waiting time shorter ? The answer is reduce the participant's. Or make the race office faster.

This year in grueningen we had 92 rider's on Sunday. 92 run's only for the qualification, 32 cut for the am's = 64 run's 16cut for the girl's and Pro's = 64 run's, and 8 run's for the junior's.

Total you have 228 timed run's and 456 difrent times which you have to put into the computer. We started at 11 and finished at 5. That means 6 hour's of racing ! And i'm 100% shure it's not possible to do it faster! Did you ever see a competition which goes more than 2-3 hour's ? If you want to have spectators the race can't be longer than 3 hour's. 3 hour's should be a limit.

I don't know what the other people think, but we have to do a decission ! Amateur Sport or try to bring the Slalom Sport back to the people...

For the skate shops, company's it's important to grow the sport, if we don't grow the sport, some day they will sell nothing.

I don't care about the result of the decission, but it will be nice to know what we want to do with the sport ? Between 2001 and 2003 the skateboardsport grow in switzerland with 79%. Skateboarding is getting bigger and bigger here.

You can see it now with the Over 80 Cones contest in Zurich. We have now 32 rider's, compare with Antibes World Cup 39 !

I don't want to exclude anybody. I only want to say, that there are other way's to grow the sport. More smaller Amateur races and only the best rider's at the big races ! All the Amateurs have the challenge to come one day to race at the big races...

Don't forget, it's not the only way. I like it too how does it works now. You can travel, meet nice people and compete...

/J-Rad

[Donald Campbell]

i will take all considerations in mind as i start working on this thing NOW.
that's why i don't want to wait and waste precious time.
the gs track is available for 2 days so this will lead me into new ideas for attending racers plus a max time effort on all races.
registration for this race will close-once the site is online-2 months prior to the race-so that everything can be arranged in good order.
i will ask which timing system it exactly is j-rad as i see it there are no tape-switches involved

[HUYNH BACH SAC Frédéric]

I'm 200% with you Don !!!!!
Very impressed by the work you have already done...

I don't totally agree with Jadranko for the idea of top 80, big media coverage is essential but IMHO, this is first a RACE and not a "SHOW".
Don't "close the door" or I will stop travelling to compete !!!

[Chris Eggers]

Klang and his mates did take the same route to let people decide where the Euros should be in 2005. I think it was the way to do it. See the reaction of people and then live up to your words and do it if the community agrees. I just think 30 days is a bit short also considering that Jack is still suffering from his latest effort in Morro, let him take a rest and relax and hear what he has to say, maybe he wants to do it again.

I would suggest a later date as the deadline, maybe Dec 1, 2005?
What do you think Don?

My vote will be given as soon as there are all offers available. maybe there are no others........It sounds great btw. ...................

[Carsten Pingel]

why Top 80 ??? Everybody should be allowed to attend !

[Jadranko Radovanovic]

This sounds great !

It's a big media effort !


The question is, what should we show ?

I think it should be only for the top rider's !
The best 80 in the World ! The 20 start places for the women and junior's.
I would fix it to maximum 100 rider's.

Don, if it's possilbe, look that you can make the Pro runs in the night ! It's another atmosphery and it looks much better/faster, because our eyes aren't as fast in the night as at the day !

Think about a big screen with live tv-production.

I don't know which experience Dan Gasmer or Chris Hart has with timing equipment. But you have Alge Timing in Austria, ask them. If you use LED Display's you have to programm them on your timing computer. Which timing computer will you use ?
We have seen that the trackmate makes problem at every race. PARIS/Antibes. With the cheap tapeswitches you have to be very carefully, if they are to long in the sun or have contact with rain, they can make problem. If you use a real timing computer you can test with a button every time the function. If there are any problems with the cable, tapeswitches or photo cells it will show you on the display's. We saw in Paris that the Photo cell's didn't take Luca's time in Antibes the same with Vinzzz ! It's not fair if some rider's have 3 or 4 qualification run's because of the timing system.

I'm behind this project and Don make a big effort for the sport !
Hope all things will work fine and don't forget to organaise the important part of the event. The race itself ! Finish one categorie before start the next. You loose less time and the rider's haven't to waite hour's between the races.

/J-Rad

[Bernhard Kuempel]

where can i sign in for brixlegg slalom worlds

i already highlighted this date !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bernhard

[David Rudnianski]

I think the combo Park/slalom in Brixlegg is a great idea.... I'm with you donald

[Donald Campbell]

ok... so let's decide where the worlds are next year

30 days is the time to vote for the race
here's my package:
brixlegg:
july 22nd/23rd
prize money 10.000 euros-maybe more spring next year-this is confirmed money
am-prizes will be also expensive expect them to be even better than in stockholm

media:
1 us-non slalom mag covering the event
1 german non-slalom mag covering the event
1 european non slalom mag covering the event
1 german sports channel covering the event
1 european sports schannel covering the event
sony is in the talks as media partner and sponsor
target group oriented promotion throughout the next spring with ads,flyers,poster,homepage,mailings etc...

sponsors,main:
carhartt
vans
eastpack
stiegl
sponsors:
pavel
concrete wave
airflow
community of brixlegg
more to follow

at the moment these are the main sponsors

race track/side events:

longest gs track in europe perfect asphalt,perfect slope
bus shuttle for the gs
special/tight
freshly paved tracks for the event in the heart of brixlegg city
free food/free drinks for all contestants sponsored by carhartt and stiegl

timing

professional ski race equipment with digital displays and screens for online results
dan gesmer-timing coordinator
chris hart co-organizer


the pool race:
orga will be held by the top german contest judges
expect hardcore riders to attend this special race


the park:
no words needed on that

the crew:
brixlegg skatepark crew-one of the best out there to help on this event
i am not talking smack here either-these guys absolutely rule my book.

accomodation:
prizes range between 20-30 euros per night and stay with breakfast and GOOD accomodations

infrastructure:

3 supermarkets,lots of cheap restaurants,internet access
good regional transport close to munich and innsbruck airport

this is the biggest package i have ever seen til now
i am leaning myself out of the window,so please show some support for the idea.

anybody who can do better than me,i bow my head to you.
so please decide on what you want.