Wanted: Masters 45 and over birthdates

Marty Schaub · Post by **Marty Schaub** » Sat May 30, 2009 1:44 pm

While you young bucks are just turning 45, I got a membership "come on" packet in the mail yesterday from AARP.

Screw that, your as old as you act, right? I am going to ride my skateboard today, and crank some music up really loud in protest to my mailer. AND I listen to music loud because I want to not because I have to in order to hear it with my hearing aides!

T Whalen · Post by **T Whalen** » Sat May 30, 2009 4:03 am

I didn't realize my slalom age (2009 – 1964) made me 45 before my October birthday this year.

Glad to still be rolling!

Terry

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:36 pm

I can't believe it, but watching the calendar I realize I'm 45 years old (may 64). Well I just have to trained again and compete in this new class.

Sam Gordon · Post by **Sam Gordon** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:41 am

I agree with Martin about the course difficulty. What point this does raise is this:

How should a course be different for a category that could contain not only the best in the world, but also also allow the participation of those that have turned to skating late in the game? The mixed experience coverage suggests an 'Open' category style of race, or Am/ Group B course.

In such a case the 'Masters' could be an extension of the 'Am' race and run at the same time, but the results should be grouped separately in order to avoid sandbagging. Comparisons with best Ams could still be made. The 'Masters' could then take part in the Pro competition (time/ skill and location allowing).

Sam

Martin Drayton · Post by **Martin Drayton** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:55 am

Sam Gordon wrote:If many divisions are to be created, then run one course for all classes so that, should you need to see how well you might have done elsewhere, then a direct time comparison can be made.

SamG 1966

I agree with Sam's post except the above paragraph. I firmly believe that racing Pro as opposed to Am should require more skill rather than just more speed and therefore Pros should have to skate on a more technical course. For Masters? No idea...

MD

Sam Gordon · Post by **Sam Gordon** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:25 pm

In cycling I now race as a 'Veteran' being over 40. I was a 'Master' from 30 until 40. A 'Senior' from 18 to 30. A strong concern is that without more filtering categories existing in skateboard racing, the 'Master' category could become regarded as a backdoor way towards sandbagging.

It seems that very capable skaters would wish to race against their similarly aged piers, and rightly so. But it should be an 'either'/ 'or' category. Either race in the 'Masters' or in the Pro/ Am divisions.

Some youngsters have raced in both Am and Junior divisions to great success. Being a midfield filler this little affects me, however many racers have griped that they're losing out because these juniors have swept the results board in both divisions. Should these guys be racing in the Ams? Or should they be reaping the rewards of the Juniors? Although capable of both, they are turning off many racers from the sport because of their impassible competitive 'wall.'

A similar situation occurred when ladies were given entry into an Am class race a few years back, having already claimed laurels in their own event. They may not have podiumed in the Ams per se, but did create upset to those that had qualifies in the top 16, only for these guys to be bumped down to 17 and 18th places. Fine if you are a local, but travel abroad to a race, have an 'on the spot' change of rules and suffer under these 'new' rules is pretty galling when one has shelled out quit a few quid in travel and accommodation to take part.

If many divisions are to be created, then run one course for all classes so that, should you need to see how well you might have done elsewhere, then a direct time comparison can be made.

Every category should be aspirational. Keeping folks in the sport at all ages is a good thing, the racing categories assist this. But if a racer can transcend the categories then these divisions become pointless.

Upshot is, choose a division and stick with it!

SamG 1966

Paul Price · Post by **Paul Price** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:05 am

I saw there were some questions on the Masters (over 45) for the Worlds. I am Master by age - born 1963

Quite a few of the older pros are now Masters!

Here is my take on it, IMHO:

1. Masters was mentioned in the ISSA sanction for the Worlds so should be included.

2. Masters in other sports are Pro's who are just older (e.g. tennis, snowboarding, Tony Hawk in skateboarding).

3. It would be cool to have a separate Masters race, in the same Pro course.

4. Pros and Ams should be free to enter the Masters contest (more racing for everyone).

5. To save time the same qualifying times could be used on the Pro course from the Pro qualifying.

6. There is no reason why the Masters (over 45) cannot compete in the Pros if fast enough.

The under 45's should be good enough to beat us old guys by now!

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:40 pm

How many masters can say they were on a LIFE magazine cover?

Cat Young · Post by **Cat Young** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:26 am

Here's the coolest "Master" I know!

Cat Young · Post by **Cat Young** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:20 am

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:02 pm

Christopher Bara wrote:I turn 45 this summer....Barker is over 45.... you have Hollien out there...bunches of others...the masters bracket can be really competative...and more than just 12-16 skaters....

I cant wait....it's all about skating with people you like....i get schooled by guys younger and less busted up all the time in pro..but that's ok...i like the guys i skate with there.....and the masters division will be a friggin ball...

what other sport can have an entire competative bracket for men (and women) over 45?...

MAYBE softball....but that's not really a sport, now, is it....?

<a target="_blank" href="http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/Fun/T ... s.mp3">The Essence Of Softball</a>

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:51 pm

Christopher Bara wrote:...what other sport can have an entire competative bracket for men (and women) over 45?...

MAYBE softball....but that's not really a sport, now, is it....?

Alpine Snowboard Racing!

I was 2007 USASA Legend (40-49) Men's Overall and Slalom Champ, Silver in GS...and you are SOOOOOO right Bara - it IS a friggin' BALL!!

There is even a USASA "Kahuna" division (50-59) and a "Methusela" division (60+)

In my USCA marathon kayak racing (6-26 miles full speed), after you graduate from OPEN class, you can race in Masters (50+), Seniors (60+), Veterans (70+) and Grand Veterans (70+). You should see how gnarly and in shape the Grand Veterans who do this are - about 8 of 'em at the last Nationals I went to - f-in coool!!

-RF

Robert Gaisek · Post by **Robert Gaisek** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:25 pm

Shuffleboard?

Christopher Bara · Post by **Christopher Bara** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:21 pm

I turn 45 this summer....Barker is over 45.... you have Hollien out there...bunches of others...the masters bracket can be really competative...and more than just 12-16 skaters....

I cant wait....it's all about skating with people you like....i get schooled by guys younger and less busted up all the time in pro..but that's ok...i like the guys i skate with there.....and the masters division will be a friggin ball...

what other sport can have an entire competative bracket for men (and women) over 45?...

MAYBE softball....but that's not really a sport, now, is it....?

Stephen Lavin · Post by **Stephen Lavin** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:49 pm

Yeah, this over 45 skater would love to skate with "Pro Masters", I don't care where I place would be an honor just to skate with'em (assuming they'll have us

).

LAVIN

Martin Drayton · Post by **Martin Drayton** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:51 am

Claude Regnier wrote:Yeah sure but you won't let me join?

Why not Claude? I thought age was the only criteria... I know of several other Pros that are ready to make the change.

MD

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:22 am

My opionion on this is that if there is going to be a Masters category in the ISSA season points standings, it makes sense that any big race (MAIN / MAJOR) should have a Masters class for those racers to earn points in, as long as there are 8 or more Masters racers who want to compete.

I will be racing AM at Hood this year, but in three years when I turn 50, I hope to go to Masters and certainly would like to see the division grow in popularity over that time.

-RF

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:56 pm

Yeah sure but you won't let me join?

Marty Schaub · Post by **Marty Schaub** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:06 pm

I would prefer racing a Masters Class at the Worlds. My thought is that if it was posted up as a class that we would get 12 - 14 racers comitted at least.

I have hesitated on the signup hoping that this change would happen.

Martin Drayton · Post by **Martin Drayton** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:05 am

Hi there,
I don't know what your plans are regarding the Worlds, but it seems like the Masters is now an afterthought. From the comments on the NCDSA sign up, it seems that several others out there thought that there would be a seperate Masters category as there was at the US Nationals at the same venue the previous year.
The organisers are saying they will just award Masters Titles from the Am finishes. This means Masters will not be racing each other directly.
My 'gripe' is that it was clearly stated that there would be a Masters category in the Sanction document for the race! Personally, I booked my flights on that basis and have now been told that to race Masters, I have to race in the Ams-that makes no sense to me. Shouldn't the only criteria to race in the Masters be your age and shouldn't we race each other?
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/ISSA/ ... -JUL18.pdf
The women are saying that they don't want 3 categories as they can't fill them, surely that means that there would be time for a Masters event?
I believe there are several other pros too who are ready to step into this category and leave the younger riders to duke it out in the Pro class, but I don't think they would feel right moving into the Ams just to do that.
I want to ask for a re-instatement of the Masters category with the last 8 racing dual as stated in the sanction document. Do any of the over 45's have any thoughts on it?

Martin.

ps.Just looked at all the names of the previous posters in this forum, how rad would it be to race together!

Hans Koraeus · Post by **Hans Koraeus** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:37 am

Hello all you elders. Turn up the volume on your hearing aids.

If you have any friends who want to join the Masters ranking for 2009 help them out by entering their birth years here.

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:41 pm

Robert Sydia wrote:Rick:

Let's make the Sizzler our B-Day party weekend!!!

What is a couple weeks!!!

R

Hell, at this point, what's a couple YEARS??!! It's on as in torONto bro!

Robert Sydia · Post by **Robert Sydia** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:26 pm

Rick:

Let's make the Sizzler our B-Day party weekend!!!

What is a couple weeks!!!

R

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:47 am

Stephen Lavin wrote:Mig, welcome to the year of the Ox bro. This is our year (I'm an Ox too)! I'm Feb '62 and also 47... I don't speak French though...

LAVIN

...it's not the year of the SPEED? Crap, this means my whole life has been a lie.

Stephen Lavin · Post by **Stephen Lavin** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:00 am

Mig, welcome to the year of the Ox bro. This is our year (I'm an Ox too)! I'm Feb '62 and also 47... I don't speak French though...

LAVIN

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:20 pm

Miguel Marco wrote:May 22, 1962

47 this year. Just a number Scooter, but too high...

1962 was the "Year of the Speed" in ancient Franco-Chinese-American cultures.

Miguel Marco · Post by **Miguel Marco** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:48 pm

May 22, 1962

47 this year. Just a number Scooter, but too high...

Joe Iacovelli · Post by **Joe Iacovelli** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:39 pm

8/21/1964

45 this year too.

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:43 pm

Robert Sydia wrote:Rob Sydia

March 6, 1964

"The Older I Get - The Better I Was"

You'e freakin' kidding - March 6th 1962 bro...maybe time to plan a party - possibly delayed until the Sizzler?

Robert Sydia · Post by **Robert Sydia** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:27 pm

Rob Sydia

March 6, 1964

"The Older I Get - The Better I Was"

Cyril Schardijn · Post by **Cyril Schardijn** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:40 am

December 25, 1960

and believe it or not my mother is Maria and my father Joseph

Scott Snow · Post by **Scott Snow** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:37 pm

April 8, 1963

Just a number.

GARY GLASSER · Post by **GARY GLASSER** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:10 pm

March 18 1964

Pisces/Dragon

I like seafood and walks on the beach during sunset. Yes, I kiss on the first date.

(I know, a little early for the Master Division but I am already planning)

Michael Peck · Post by **Michael Peck** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:32 pm

June 27, 1960

Hanging in there.

Cat Young · Post by **Cat Young** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:22 am

March 15, 1959
The Ides of March!

Ulf Haag · Post by **Ulf Haag** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:53 pm

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaster

1963-SEP-16

//Wolfie

Martin Drayton · Post by **Martin Drayton** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:23 am

Now that more and more events are featuring masters divisions, I wonder when we will see a Master's category at World Championship level? USA next year?

Martin
(5/5/60 - 48yrs old)

Peter Pletanek · Post by **Peter Pletanek** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:20 am

Born 24.August 1962 (age 45)

as long as I can go alone to the toilet, I will ride the skateboard.
(riding since 1974 with some breaks)

best regard from Munich/Germany

Peter

Ricardo Damborenea · Post by **Ricardo Damborenea** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:21 pm

Born 4/3/63

Now 45, but still kicking

Wesley Tucker · Post by **Wesley Tucker** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:04 pm

Ron Barbagallo wrote:Fatboy

age 46

5/18/62

Taurus

Ron,

This is the WORLD RANKING.

I think you, me, Twayzer and a few others also have to declare WHICH WORLD?

Ron Barbagallo · Post by **Ron Barbagallo** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:36 pm

Fatboy

age 46

5/18/62

Taurus

Michel Dupont · Post by **Michel Dupont** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:38 pm

Seems I'm actually a young one out here, only july 63...

Chris Iversen · Post by **Chris Iversen** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:40 am

Pierre Gravel wrote:I can still ride my age in MPH on a skateboard, but for how long?

That's easy Pierre... Just switch to KPH and don't tell anyone!

Pierre Gravel · Post by **Pierre Gravel** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:18 am

Ok i'm old too, june 1962.
All the new kids beat me all the time, might as well be will the old farts now.

I can still ride my age in MPH on a skateboard, but for how long?

Claude Regnier · Post by **Claude Regnier** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:57 pm

At our age we can fart anywhere Robert

Robert Gaisek · Post by **Robert Gaisek** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:54 pm

Is this only for the US?
If not I´m an old fart too. May -62.

Flavio Badenes · Post by **Flavio Badenes** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:52 pm

October the 22nd, 1957 and I guess I am the oldest so far.......

Tom Mangelsdorf · Post by **Tom Mangelsdorf** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:30 pm

OK. I confess. Born Sept 13, 1959. I'm forty-friggin-eight years old.

Carsten Pingel · Post by **Carsten Pingel** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:04 am

I like the master idea, but did somebody think about the very close time schedule for a race on a weekend ? For example in Hannover,........they stopped the Am parallel competition after the cut to 16 because there was no time left ! I saw other races with also very narrow time schedule.
There are a lot of old farts out there, therefore I would like to see one Master Class.
Pro, AM,women, in one class.
If there is one class it would probably fit in a race weekend ?!
I think at that part of the life its not about beeing the fastest, its about fun with racers at the same age.

......before they race with wheelchairs or play golf !

Rick Floyd · Post by **Rick Floyd** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:28 pm

45 - 3/6/1962

And...I CAN shoot my age...45 caliber that is!

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