[2009] Désaxé World Cup, GRENOBLE, June 27-28 [MAIN]

Peter Klang · Post by **Peter Klang** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:48 pm

I just wanna wish all of you lucky bastards who can go to this races the best of luck and have a GREAT time doing what we love. I on the other hand are living a very controlled life mostly involving coaching football. I may comeback…

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND DUDES AND DUDEDETTS

Michel Dupont · Post by **Michel Dupont** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:28 pm

Chris Hart wrote:oh wow.....

why was no bobody comming from France??? (maybe we have to say 100 EUROS starting fee only for the french riders and then you will show up..)

French riders did come to Tunnel race, would have loved to come to BBQ but had to cancel last minute, and are still coming to over 80 cones...

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:15 pm

Jani Soderhall wrote:Chris,

100E has been the norm Pro class in World Cup races since 2003 in Europe.

Why can a norm not be changed in order to make something better? We changed the norm at the Tunnel Race by charging a third (in case of Pro) and offering pretty much all the same things and I think everybody enjoyed the "high profile, high quality event".

rmn

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:08 pm

On 10th of June I had already posted a question concerning entry fee. There was no reply until today:

Ramón Königshausen wrote:Just out of curiosity:

Why is it so expensive? (Is there a fee for using the stadium or so?)

And what prizes are there for the women's category?

rmn

rmn

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:06 pm

Just to quote myself on a reply I made to Gustavs not turning Pro this season. I would really like to see him race pro and compete with/against him.

Ramón Königshausen wrote:
Gustavs Gailitis wrote: Become a PRO during the season means bigger expenses already this year and pay more than 100 euros for just qualification runs and a t-shirt...

Ditto! Most races are too expensive!

Two weeks ago I paid 60 Euros for a freeride in Belgium. That included Camping, 2x meals per day, shuttle all day long, course marshalls, safety measurements such as haybales and showers.

Amateurs pay 50 Euros and they don't get camping, shuttles, haybales etc. which is a lot of work for organizers. It's very easy to set up a slalom race. I don't understand why all the races have such high entry fee. It doesn't really help to encourage newbes to the sport to participate with such high entry fees.

So also for you Gustavs, it's a matter of money and high entry fee. I bet if the Pros entry fee wasn't so expensive more ("sandbagging") amateurs would turn pro. But if you're a student like Gustavs or I was, you are really happy to even be able to go to an event that's far away. Gustavs is travelling all the way from Latvia only to pay €120 if he wants to race pro.

Just to compare, the Tunnel Slalom we put up cost €30 for Am and €35 for Pro. €10 of which we had to pay to the festival but every participant got a free ticket to use public transport on that day. So in fact the entry fee was only €20 for Am and €25 for Pro.

There was also prize money for women because they also deserve to get prize money.

rmn

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:16 pm

no shit stirring intended

i understand chris and see what he means
i don't think this was meant as an offense and i see no whining either(chris is not the guy to whine!).
his point is just,given the current situation he is right about a few things(my oppinion,which is probably wrong too,again,as ever,who knows)

me,i think you can charge as much as you guys in grenoble do,but.......... then you have to drastically increase the prize money( i am referring to brixlegg f.e.)

you will see things different,that's ok so.

chris:you should have said that earlier though.

everybody have a supernice day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:09 am

Chris,

100E has been the norm Pro class in World Cup races since 2003 in Europe. It may be a little bit on the high side, but if it helps assure good events, I think it's worth it. It was originally meant to keep Am's away from the Pro class (I don't think that is valid any more), along with helping to finance the pro purse, or the event in general. As you know sponsors don't cough up that much money, even if they may be willing to help in many other ways. Cash is cash and as it's hard to get, and Pro's want it, this is one way to get some in.

Unfortunately the falling participation is putting these kind of high profile events at risk. Add to that the whining such as yours and we will soon have no more of these high profile, high quality events. You should enjoy them while they last. That cannot be measured in euros.

See you there, if you change your mind last minute. Hey, I'll throw in 50E just to see you race, especially in the GS!

/Jani

Chris Hart · Post by **Chris Hart** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:38 am

oh wow.....
Free really good meal?
I have been there last year. We raced in a big hall couse it was raining the whole weekend.
To getting the lunch, we had to go back to the stadium to sit outside under a tent (it was cold and wet( remember Jani?)) and enjoy the "good" food.
Come on.......
What are your sponsers paying for?

this was over 80 cones for 20EUROS and a lot of public!!

this was slalombrunch fro FREE!! and a lot of fun.....
why was no bobody comming from France??? (maybe we have to say 100 EUROS starting fee only for the french riders and then you will show up..)

...FEEL THE FLOW....
CHRIS

Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy · Post by **Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:07 am

You can not compare these events, Riderz organize also free events, with gifts to win...

All the World Cup events cost at least 50€ for AM, 100€ for pros !

So the difference, with Grenoble you have a full package of the race, a lot of public, a mini ramp, three reals and good meals, and a tshirt.

In my opinion, Grenoble is cheaper than a lot of events, considering what it offers.

For me it's important to continue to do big events, with a lot of public and medias, as was the Trocadero, or Grenoble, alongside with more and cheaper events mostly for the riders.

Actually, we (Riderz) are planning to do another Trocadero next year, but seeing this kind of comments, i'm not as sure as before... And worst, I know it's the same for the organization of Grenoble...

Chris Hart · Post by **Chris Hart** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:18 pm

Why is this race sooo expensive?

We made the Tunnel Race in Switzerland for about 45 CHF (30 Euros) , or the Airflow-Slalombrunch in Thalwil for all the racers commong outside from Switzerland for FREE!
Inclouding free camping ground, BBQ and Brunch at sunday morning (inclouding the race!!!).
There was 3000 CHF price money at the tunelrace!!!!
Are the racers paying the pricemoney??????????
You got such a lot "sponsors" on the webside!!!!!
I will not come to the Race like this, and also hope there will be a change in the mind of all organisers doing such a high starting fee.

Skateboarding should be fun!!!!!!!

sorry chris hart

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:17 pm

Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy wrote:And, on the frontpage of the website, now there is the menu... with some boeuf Bourguignon this year !

Ah that's why it's so expensive: La haute cuisine française!

rmn

Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy · Post by **Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:26 pm

And, on the frontpage of the website, now there is the menu... with some boeuf Bourguignon this year !

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:35 am

Some newspaper scans off www.desaxe-skateslalom.com

Make your reservation NOW! See you all in Grenoble!

/Jani

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:58 am

Gints Gailitis wrote:World champion 2007 Janis Kuzmins is back in slalom and in good level and Martins Liepins is back, too.
Lienite, Jānis and Gustavs will participate in World cup Grenoble this summer.

How about that for a last minute update! Janis is back from his resting period and Lienite will be racing tool. We'll have a full team - Go Team ConeRacing!

/Jani

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:15 pm

Nooo it can't!!!
Hey Ramon! Come and race in Isola and you'll see what giant mean for me!!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:15 am

Pierre Samray wrote:Think about the giant which isn't flat so far. Fast and long.

I hope so! How can a GS be on flat?

rmn

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:06 pm

Think about the giant which isn't flat so far. Fast and long.

Gustavs Gailitis · Post by **Gustavs Gailitis** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:34 am

Prague was your First race? Congratulations!!!

Yes, special and tight in this race will be on flat, but with A LOT OF spectators and fantastic organization!

Women category must grow because it is necessary also for sponsors and spectators and the best way how to do this is to bring girlfriends, wives, sisters, daughters etc. in slalom

Dasha Kornienko · Post by **Dasha Kornienko** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:52 am

Gustavs Gailitis wrote:That is great that Dasha (saw her performance in a video from Prague) will compete too - we need to develop women division Maybe next year we will also see my girlfriend in a slalom competition

You saw my "performance"? You mean my sad attempt at pumping on flat? haha. It was painful to watch that video because I am actually slowing down by the end. It was my first slalom race, and I found it a bit discouraging, but I guess I also learned a lot... I hear that this race is flat also? Too bad.

It's so rad to see 5 girls registered! I was the only one in Prague, so it will be nice to have an actual womens category! Although we can definitely use some more recruits... get your girlfriend out to a race Gustavs!!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:57 am

Just out of curiosity:

Why is it so expensive? (Is there a fee for using the stadium or so?)

And what prizes are there for the women's category?

rmn

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:16 pm

Here's a picture of the race area (the 1968 Olympic Speed Skating stadium) from above. You can see from the sky that it's got good surface!

For reservations of beds in the youth hostel, please contact Philippe Galindo
(Philippe AT desaxe.com)

/Jani

Adrien MASSIEYE · Post by **Adrien MASSIEYE** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:58 pm

GOG ( Gang of Grenoble ) and LaFamilia (Grenoble longskate association) organise a film screening for the release of our new movie 2008/2009 "Famou!GuessWhy?
The screening will take place on the evening of the 26th of June at the family's Pub.
3 RUE SAINT JOSEPH 38000 Grenoble near too the race place.

Before the beginning of the competition, the team will welcome you over a good beer and a big raffle. We expect you to join us to celebrate the movie release and gently start this competition weekend!
For more information have a look at our forum
http://familiagrenoble.forumactif.com/d ... 288-15.htm

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:56 pm

3 girls from France already register. At last a true women races!

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:40 pm

Ramón Königshausen wrote:But Chris Hart and maybe Nastasja will come with us. Manuel Frei and some of the Guys from Grüningen too.

Good, can you have them sign up rapidly? We need more registrations for the media.

Thanks!

/Jani

Gustavs Gailitis · Post by **Gustavs Gailitis** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:20 pm

Ramón Königshausen wrote:I'm just asking what the cone distance will be. My girlfriend wants to practise, since it's on flat and hard to pump.

That is great that Dasha (saw her performance in a video from Prague) will compete too - we need to develop women division

Maybe next year we will also see my girlfriend in a slalom competition

It would be nice to race against superfast Swiss riders, and also guys from Gothenburg - it will be a great competition!!!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:46 am

Well, we're having a big slide competition the same weekend here in Switzerland. (Remember when I was asking for dates last October?) So some of the guys (especially juniors) will be going there.

But Chris Hart and maybe Nastasja will come with us. Manuel Frei and some of the Guys from Grüningen too.

rmn

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:51 am

Ramon,

Can you mobilize a team of Swiss riders? Not many have signed up yet. Or are you planning a weekend for just the two of you?

/Jani

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:35 pm

Hey Ramon! may be not the place to speak of that, but I send message to Dominik and Peter about the status of the race I organize one week before in Isola and have no answer since more than one month????

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:32 pm

About the special it will be something as last year for amateur and maybe we ask 3 pros from 3 differents nations to put the pro one.

Giant will be long, large and fast... But I just see the slope under the rain last year and have actually no idea of the design of the course. Certainly something which will be like what you raced in Antibes but longer.

I'll try to make something interesting for all.

See you in Grenoble!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:57 pm

Thanks!

Same for the special I guess?

rmn

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:25 pm

Yes same distance as last year, in straight slalom : 1m70.

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:26 pm

I'm just asking what the cone distance will be. My girlfriend wants to practise, since it's on flat and hard to pump.

There's hardly any actual info about the courses.

rmn

Gustavs Gailitis · Post by **Gustavs Gailitis** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:19 pm

Ramón Königshausen wrote: Also, what will be the distance for the straight slalom? 1.70 like last year?
rmn

C'mon Ramon,not again - just come and skate

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:03 pm

Hey guys where can I find infomation about the slalom disciplines? When I click disciplines, all I see is pictures of different sports.

Also, what will be the distance for the straight slalom? 1.70 like last year?

rmn

Antonio Saluena · Post by **Antonio Saluena** » Thu May 28, 2009 9:55 am

I'll stay as long as I possible can, if I'll have time to qualify it's great!
Looking forward to se everybody, I missed Grenoble last year but 07 was great!

Antonio

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:34 pm

I'm afraid it will be impossible for you to race the final of the special in the pro class, even if we start at five in the morning.
If you have to take plane à 4:30 in Lyon, may be you have to go at twelve! think about the trafic between Grenoble and Lyon! The only way would be to put pro the morning in place of am and it's really not a good thing for the organizers. Most of the public and officials from the city (you know, people who give money and autorizations) are coming to see the event in the afternoon. It's a pity. I'm sorry for you!
Enjoy giant and tight and expect you've time enought to run the special qualification.

Antonio are you racing in pro now?

Marcus Seyffarth · Post by **Marcus Seyffarth** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:18 pm

Is this what you are talking about?

Its not about the plane, its about the captain and stupid me gave him that weekend off without double checking the race calendar... I'm sorry!

Donald Campbell · Post by **Donald Campbell** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:03 pm

antonio
ask your main sponsor for a private jet
it's that easy....

Antonio Saluena · Post by **Antonio Saluena** » Tue May 26, 2009 6:14 pm

That's the only flight back that day. The problem is it's not Grenoble aiport but Lyon. Guess we have to leave 2.30... sucks!!!
If we start early we can make it!

Antonio

Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy · Post by **Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy** » Tue May 26, 2009 5:01 pm

The plane will leave at 4:30 ?
Considering tha the Grenoble Airport is at 30 minutes from the stadium, and that you will need to be at the airport in advance... this is really tough !
Is it possible for you to get a flight later ?

15 registered by now !

Fabian Bjornstjerna · Post by **Fabian Bjornstjerna** » Sat May 23, 2009 1:20 pm

Yes please! Early start for the special would be great. We are in serious risk of missing it otherwise....

Antonio Saluena · Post by **Antonio Saluena** » Sat May 23, 2009 12:59 pm

I hope for an early start on sunday morning, our flight back is at 4.30...

Team 161

Pierre Samray · Post by **Pierre Samray** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:38 pm

I have Philippe (the head organizer this morning at phone) I tell him we need to see the racers list so they are working to correct that and the racers list will be available soon but you can already register. 12 already do it since 2 days.

Schedule is something as

Saturday morning : on Seyssins road
Giant slalom for all : Long and step (500 meters)

Saturday afternoon : on the stadium
Straight slalom am, junior and women
Sathurday evening
Straight slalom for pro class
Sathurday night : Live music on the stadium

Sunday morning on the stadium
Special slalom : am, junior, women

Sunday afternoon
Special slalom for pro class.
End of afternoon
Nations cup
Reward at 5 or 6 in the afternoon.

A lot of animations are planned on the stadium
International contest BMX, roller, skis and snowboard. Skate ramp...
Grenoble getting bigger year after year!

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:07 pm

Marcus Seyffarth wrote:Ahhh! What would I do without you? Since my french is a little bit more 'limited' than yours I just clicked timing under Accueil in the menu. I don't have a clue what Accueil means but the schedule was not there so I just figured it wasn't ready yet.

Well, then you probably did not see that you can switch to English on the top right of the homepage

rmn

Marcus Seyffarth · Post by **Marcus Seyffarth** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:35 pm

Ahhh! What would I do without you? Since my french is a little bit more 'limited' than yours I just clicked timing under Accueil in the menu. I don't have a clue what Accueil means but the schedule was not there so I just figured it wasn't ready yet.

Did I read the bus schedule correct if it takes a little more than 1 hour to get to Lyon? I don't wanna use the only french I picked up in school at the airport (excuse moi je suis un petit retard).

I haven't been granted permission to leave from home yet, so chances of me actually showing up are small at this moment. But as usual I'm very eager to wiggle a little, even if I would end up in second, third or even 21:st place

Ramón Königshausen · Post by **Ramón Königshausen** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:02 pm

Oh no, King Marcus is coming.

The schedule is called "Timing" if you move your cursor over "world cup skateboard slalom". Then you have to know a little French (which I do) and voilà you'll be able to plan a good "timing" between the award ceremony (getting your second place trophies

) and your flight.

I haven't had any success in finding the list of signed up racers either but I'm sure they'll put one up (or tell us where to find it) now that we've asked for it.

rmn

Marcus Seyffarth · Post by **Marcus Seyffarth** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:24 pm

Is there a time schedule so that you can see if there are matching flights on sunday?
Is there a list of registered riders?

Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy · Post by **Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy** » Sun May 17, 2009 6:06 pm

The registrations are opened on the website !

http://www.desaxe-skateslalom.com

Note : Paypal will work in a couple of days

Coming with the World Cup and French Championship of slalom skateboard, here is some news about the whole event :

- Ramp and street skateboard area
- European Master BMX and fun box BMX
- ski & snowboard slope style
- World series roller freestyle

And of course the huge sound system, with a concert saturday evening in the stadium.

A lot of medias are following the event this year, the TV Channel Game one, TV8 Mont Blanc and the radio Virgin 17

30.000 spectators are waited !

REGISTER NOW !

Jani Soderhall · Post by **Jani Soderhall** » Sun May 17, 2009 5:00 pm

Here's the invitation:

http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/event ... om2009.pdf [3.0 MB]

Hope to see you in Grenoble June 27-28!

/Jani

Michael Stride · Post by **Michael Stride** » Fri May 15, 2009 3:56 pm

ah, good point Sam.

I did look into going to Lyons/Grenoble as I have an invite to Paul Bocuse's gaff. (Thats Gaff, not caff)

And having done the trek from Lyons to Grenoble then to Les Deux Alpes more than a few times I thought I was in a good position to answer.

As for directions to Hog Hill...simple. Go to London. Turn Right. Head for hill(s).

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