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Post by Flavio Badenes » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:05 am

Guys,

I know it has not been a perfect contest.

I also know that a lot people were happy with it too.

I can also understand people complaining at that time. You were right, you had the right to complain and I do believe your complains were taken into consideration and fixed too.

I just do not understand why bringing it up all over again.

It has been talked about. I am working at next year's contest. A lot was learned a lot will be improved.

I am also working on a few other skateboarding projects.

So....

I will concentrate on those projects and my dearest contest.

I just ask you to stop it here and lets go on from here.

What is the point of coming to this forum and writing:

I not going to Amsterdam next year.

What is the point of bring that up here? Just tell me what is the point of doing it? Then you get reactions like these in this forum. Don't you think this sucks??? This bla bla bla...man it sucks big time.

Like I said I will stop it here.

I do hope that next time we see each other in France, where I do hope to go next year, Germany or even Hell that we can talk to each other in a appropriated way and more important than anything else that we go SKATEBOARDING !!!!!!!!!

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Post by Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:31 am

Flavio, Donald, who were the Race Director at Amsterdam ?

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Post by Michel Dupont » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:23 am

Why do you take it personally Donald?
Don't you think a rider has the right to ask for results to be corrected when they are wrong (I'm not talking about a cone counting mistake by cone judges which is understandable and happens now and then)? And what were we “constantly complaining” about Donald? Or “arguing” about? :
- wrong time, wrong cone penalty,
- other lane cone penalty,
- “reaction time” in qualifications, but not for everybody.
Were we the only ones asking for this? How many re-runs did you have? Did you get the right people to the finals? And we were for sure not the only ones checking that the person in charge got the right cone penalty on the screen.
If you think we were “constantly complaining” about everything does that mean we should not ask for results to be correct?
Asking for results to be corrected is not equal to “constantly complaining”. Give us one more thing we in your words were “constantly complaining” about. Nothing. Because there was nothing else to complain about.
I also remember that not at one moment did we stand alone in front of the screen, but we were about the only ones at who you told to get away. Some other people standing “in your way” didn’t seem to bother you much. If something bothers you, then treat everybody the same way.
What does Gothenburg have to do with Amsterdam? What registration fee did we ask back for in Gothenburg? We did think it was a bit too much to ask for juniors to pay double entry fee, that is 160 € (more than PROs!), if they wanted to also race with the AMs, and then cancel their finals early instead of waiting until the end of the competition to be sure there really was no time to have them do to bad weather or other important delays. We were more talking for the others that did not race with the amateurs than for ourselves. Only means that we think that if juniors pay as much as AMs then they should be treated the same way. If juniors are not as important as AMs(which is the way it should be) then their entry fee should not be the same (which is also the way it should be and until now has been elsewhere). Double entry fee also lead to the fact that really good juniors (and good enough amateurs to maybe race the AM finals) like Nico from Switzerland or Olle from Sweden didn’t have enough money to also race with the amateurs.

No hard feelings Donald, we also know you can sometimes be a nice guy, like you were in Dusseldorf when we first met you.

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Post by Donald Campbell » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:27 pm

ok...
i remember the whole dupont family constantly complaining,same thing they did in gothenburg too.gothenburg for example you wanted your registration fee back from henrik...remember?
i remember the dupont family constantly standing in front of the table looking at the screen,whenever they had the chance,i repeat constantly.also very often complaining!
even though i asked them to stay away from the table or move to the side,they came back again and again
i must say that this really helps when you are sitting there trying to control a race and having the very same people all the time in front of your face,arguing,blocking your sight.

when you are new to the circuit as you say here is lesson #1 :
respect what the race director asks you to do,don't show him that he is a stupid idiot by simply ignoring him.
help him by not constantly blocking his sight and help him to focus on the race instead of focussing upon you.

maybe you take your time to understand me...

i know you can also be nice guys....

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Post by Guillaume Saint-Criq » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:31 pm

Martijn

Please, read the few posts some of us let after the race... it was not about conplaining but only about THANKS to Flavio and all those who help him.
I think all who were there are thanksfull, and like you we proud to see slalom events in new countries, and we are sure it will be even better next year.

But what you ask for Amsterdam should be the same for all other races : be thankfull to the organisers for their work... not always shitting on the same things (flat races), even more when you did not things in a perfect way!

Races facts are races facts : when you come from long distance to a race (even more "Euros"), the first thing you can ask is the results to be accurate (no timing error).
The race has to be fair and true : that s why half of the riders asked for re-runs on the first day.
Note that the second day run perfectly smooth and there were no complain about anything.

Regarding to your FIS statement, does it mean that when race results are wrong, nobody complain?
I never race FIS, but did a lot of other sports before : valid and fair results is a must be!
I can't see any "childish complaining" in what happen in Amsterdam... but maybe you can explain it better ;)

By the way, i was really happy to read your last post and see some apologizes.
Be sure that guys from this certain country (I talk for myself) have fun in Amsterdam meeting people and skateboarding, are thanksfull to organizer, especially to Flavio, and will be glad to come again next year if they are always welcome :D.

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:42 pm

last thing I want to emphasise is that other governing body's like the FIS, would never, and I mean never, accept the kind of childish complaining as I've seen at the Euro's!

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:39 pm

As it is, it's probably the most prestigious race ever held in the country!
Please be aware of the fact that we, the Dutch, are proud of that and would gladly
improve on this, what ever the status!

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:33 pm

I was proud to see such an event take place in the Netherlands and it had a great impact as stated!
But, I'm disappointed at the "level" of the response!
Yes it could have been and should have been better but, and I mean but, it does not deserve the feedback that it was given!!!!!!!

Be positive and tell us what you would like to be changed instead of playing the raped teen groupie!

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:27 pm

What I think is:

When you get to race against a representative field of racers you should always be thankful!
When you come to a race you should thank the organisers for taking the trouble to organise it!
When you have a complaint, bring it in a positive way as an improvement for next year.
When you feel compromised in any way, think about how it will have the same influence on other riders before you complain!
When feeling French, please be assured that this is not the only country in the world that deems itself vindicated to have it's own view on how things should be!
When complaining please be aware of the perception others will have, as perception is reality as many will know!

Further more I would like to state that my comments were out of line and inexcusable, sorry for that.....It seems to be a trademark of mine.........................

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Post by Michel Dupont » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:20 am

Martijn,

So, let’s see if I got this straight. You think that a rider does not have the right to complain and try to get things right when:
- you are told to ride on the white course and you get the time of the red course on the screen,
- you ride on the white course and you get the red course cone penalty,
- it’s qualification runs and the first riders get a “reaction time” added to their final time when it was announced at the riders meeting that “you leave when you want after the beep”…
Maybe you have forgotten or maybe you just didn’t notice that a lot of riders from different countries asked for reruns, don’t you wonder why? Don't you think they did it because there was a problem with something?
But what do I know, I’m new to slalom and maybe this is just how it should be.
Anyway, that’s what I and Christopher complained about and as you can see it has nothing to do with Flavio’s organisation of the event. His event would have been excellent as a Prime event and then he did the best he could in a short time when it was upgraded to Main.
So just to help out a poor old guy new to slalom, could you please be more explicit when you say that the French riders were assholes bitching about just everything.

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Post by Guillaume Saint-Criq » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:14 am

Dear Martin

Note that the "the majority of riders" and the "pros" (so funny quotes) doesn't need you to tell what they think about that "certain country" directly to the interested people, because it seems that this country held many races in the past, move to each one in Europe this year, like they did since years... and also like you did not.

So please talk for yourself, and keep insults out.

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Post by Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:04 pm

Martijn Nijs wrote:That's a totally different issue than being an ass hole and always complain about just about everything
Straight to my heart.

Ok you don't know me, the fact is that i take part of enough events in downhill or slalom skateboard to face a lot of criticism, so i know the feeling.
And i'm the only one to open my mouth, so maybe i'm that kind of guy. But check up my passive, and you will see, really i'm not.

As you see, i was disappointed about Amsterdam, especially compared to all the pollution that float around the french events. And the complete hush about some others...
So understand, it's not to brag myself. But i feel completely at ease being more agressive. Especially when i registered in the event, and as i organize others.
Hey guys, come in France to see our events !!!

The point that matter is that the event and the local scene will continue to grow, so all is perfect ! As you say : with or without me, simple AM rider, that will be the same minus 50€ and some pictures, so let's skate ! And maybe, i will come back next year !

Donald, when will we see you in Grenoble, to be able to accept all the big speechs of yours ?

By now, i'm just really tired of that.

About the very simple answer : yes, i'ts complicated, otherwise be sure that we would do it.

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:35 pm

To be completely honest,

One of the more negative things that stuck after the "Euro's" in Amsterdam was the input from the pro's that a certain country (?!) always and everywhere complains to and hassles the organisers about the courses etc.
It seems to irritate the majority of racers as I was able to hear.
That seems to me to be a sanctionable offence!

I have had the privilege to race a couple of FIS sanctioned snowboard slalom races and this kind of behaviour would have NEVER been tolerated.

personally I would choose to argue about that kind of behaviour in stead of criticising an organisation that did its best to organise the best race within their competency.
Yes it could have and should have been better but, that's part of the learning curve.
That's a totally different issue than being an ass hole and always complain about just about everything!

Weather or not the Netherlands will host the "Euro's" next year or not, I'm sure that we will organise the best race ever in this country!

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Post by Donald Campbell » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:10 pm

hmmmm
ok
guillaume

no bad blood intended.
i just wrote what a lot of people think about the grenoble venue.
it wasn't even meant to stir shit up,just stating a fact we all know about.
if you want these people to post here,you should call them,most don't post here because they really don't care about forums.
but you will surely see who those people might be looking at other races.
and...
you can keep any promise-this won't help if the venue itself sucks.
what's so complicated in moving a competiton to a slope?


a very simple question with a hopefully very simple answer.

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:42 pm

Guillaume Saint-Criq wrote:Last point : I am afraid that the only added value to your post is to make a really bad feeling between all of us...

Please respect the work from others...


That is exactly what Jean-Sébastien should have done regarding my work and more his post didn't add value either.
What he tried to do was to brag about himself by putting somebody else down. Bad idea, but coming from him this is not a real surprise isn't it?

Like they say you should not throw rocks at others if you have yourself a glass roof.

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Post by Guillaume Saint-Criq » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:15 pm

Last point : I am afraid that the only added value to your post is to make a really bad feeling between all of us...

Please respect the work from others...

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Post by Guillaume Saint-Criq » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:11 pm

Donald, I am really surprised about your hability to speak for all of us !
why are you talking about Grenoble when JS gives his feedback about Amsterdam?
Isn't it something really boring with this kind of "drooling" ?
I am sure JS is totally aware about Flavio works and involvment in this event, and we are sure he will make what he can to make it better next year.
JS can talk about the race : he was there. You did not come in Grenoble as far as I know.
And it's not illegitime to tell Amsterdam was not what we can ALL expect for the major event in Europe.


You don't like flat!
I don't like it much more.
But let people tell by themself what they think or why they did not come !


question :
why racers who WERE in Grenoble this year TELL US they will certainly come back next year?

answer :
Maybe because it was for sure one of the best organised event, for racers and for audience, and we all had fun there.
Or also because the race went smoothly without big timing issues...
Or maybe because organisers, timing table and speakers did not give up in the middle of the first day because they were tired (and they were tired for sure, like every organisers, even more when you have to move ALL your organisation, and not only starting ramps -see pictures-, to an indoor area because of rain)...
Or maybe because racers can have real meal after the race, and not only bananas or nothing...
Or also because what was announced was what happen, with money and free trip for a week for the winners in each categories...

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Post by Donald Campbell » Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:42 pm

something more to add
question:why is it that so many good riders didn't go to grenoble?
answer:because the races are held on flat surface.

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:21 am

And adding to what Martijn has very well stated above.

We had 2 and a half months to upgrade the event from a prime events to a main event. That proved to be too short.

However.....

The city has embraced the event for good, they were very happy with what they saw. This means a lot for next year's event.


Another point is that this was the SECOND event we organized here. You guys have been doing it for quite a while now.

And, by the way, you been here or not doesn't change anything. We could couldn't care less.

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:36 pm

Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy wrote:Here are (at last) my pictures for the event !
http://js.d.free.fr/Photos/080816-Amsterdam/

The atmosphere was quite good all the week-end, except some thight moments about the timing system or the planning... That was the good point of this event, it remembered me a lot of GOG outlaw races that we have done since there !

That was also the bad point. I have done the last 2 Euros (Hannover and Grenoble), but never did Amsterdam.
And the point is, at Amsterdam i had the feeling to have entered on the prime event as it was supposed to be at the beginning. (Except for the high skill of all the riders which was the quite impressive - f*** i have to train myself !)

All events are open to criticism, it's always hard to set up everything, i deeply know that as an event organizer in France.

But when i see the organization level of Grenoble and the amount of debates for this event that is much better than Amsterdam...
I have to be fair : I had a good time, took some pictures, skate a little bit, but i prefer to do good outlaws races, and real and solid major/main events. I won't return next year.

To bad you feel that way Jean!

the royal kingdom of the Netherlands is a flat country so we would have to move the venue to the eastern part of the country or use a bridge in one of the more major city's.....

What I want to say is the following;

For Dutch slalom skateboarding the "Euro's" were a success, the "community" has more than doubled (at least five new racers have made the transition from alpine slalom snowboarding to slalom skateboarding as summer training)!!!!!!!!!
There is a strong desire to train on a regular basis and also, quite a substantial amount of gear has been either bought or ordered!
So, Dutch slalom skateboarding is getting bigger, hopefully we can, as a result, create a bigger hype, gain the support of bigger sponsors and, as a result, organise bigger and better events!


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Post by Jean-Sébastien Dennebouy » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:48 am

Here are (at last) my pictures for the event !
http://js.d.free.fr/Photos/080816-Amsterdam/

The atmosphere was quite good all the week-end, except some thight moments about the timing system or the planning... That was the good point of this event, it remembered me a lot of GOG outlaw races that we have done since there !

That was also the bad point. I have done the last 2 Euros (Hannover and Grenoble), but never did Amsterdam.
And the point is, at Amsterdam i had the feeling to have entered on the prime event as it was supposed to be at the beginning. (Except for the high skill of all the riders which was the quite impressive - f*** i have to train myself !)

All events are open to criticism, it's always hard to set up everything, i deeply know that as an event organizer in France.

But when i see the organization level of Grenoble and the amount of debates for this event that is much better than Amsterdam...
I have to be fair : I had a good time, took some pictures, skate a little bit, but i prefer to do good outlaws races, and real and solid major/main events. I won't return next year.

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Post by Donald Campbell » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:21 pm

i traded one with antonio which was not as wide as the pig deck but it had a very long wheelbase,like almost 18".henrik likes to ride those a lot and it had a green print underneath.
i would say it was max 9" wide.

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:10 pm

Martijn Nijs wrote:Hmmmm, to be shure, were any sold in the Netherlands?
Not that I know of. I used to sell them in my skate shop back in the 90's and nobody else carried them then or carries them now. The only skater using a Alva board like that one is me, I use it for park riding.

It is a old school pig model. Very wide wood deck, if I am not mistaken this one had Alva printed on the bottom side in large blue letters.

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:29 pm

Hmmmm, to be shure, were any sold in the Netherlands?

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Post by Martijn Nijs » Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:28 pm

Don, could you post a pic of the board in question, it would help to hunt it down!!!!!


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Stolen deck......

Post by Martijn Nijs » Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:23 pm

This must be a joke, your deck got stolen at the Euro's?!
Ok, it's a free for all!!

I'de like to "talk" to the MF involved!

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:44 pm

I do worry. I think this really sucks.

I will provide him with another one. I do have a few in stock.


Let me know where I have to send it to.

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Post by Donald Campbell » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:10 pm

it was one of the alva pool decks
antonio won it and traded it for a pavel pool deck
i traded that board for henrik since it had such a long wheelbase and henrik loves those.
sadly the board never made it home
i know it won't come back either but i was so frustrated about this i had to post it


no worries

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:14 pm

Unbelievable.

Don please describe the board and we will keep an eye out for it. I do think we can find this asshole.

@ the Dutch skaters:

Dit kunnen we niet accepteren.
Er zijn heel niet zo veel Pavels in Nederland. Zo dit is makelijke te vinden.
Als julllie die klotezak zien. Pack de board van hem.

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Post by Robert Gaisek » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:11 pm

I will send some "break your ass-vibes" in his direction too!!!! What a looser.

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Post by Donald Campbell » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:04 pm

on a final note i want to say THANK YOU to the one guy whole stole a board from me right when we loaded things up into the car.
it is always nice to see how people feel about me after having done 2 days work for them for free not asking for anything and then being the victim of a theft.
i really hope you will break all your bones on that board!!!!!

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Post by Carsten Pingel » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:01 am

Nice pics! Thank you!

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Post by Cyril Schardijn » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:47 pm

Because my computer crashed on the day after the championships I could not put my photos on line. But the problem is fixed and the album is online,
Just follow the link:

http://picasaweb.google.nl/zierill/EkSlalom

And on behalve of my daughter and her girlfriend I had to post this picture especially for Viking, Viktor and the cute German guy with the beanie....

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.nl/zierill/EkSl ... 0354"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/zierill/SLwyK5nS3L ... 1.JPG"></a>
congratulations and we hope to see you next year
I'd rather spend my time between

sillycones

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:19 pm

Thanks Guillaume & Sandrine
and
See you next year here in Amsterdam. (and in Grenoble in September) :-)

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Post by Guillaume Saint-Criq » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:50 pm

Sandrine and I would like to thank you all for making possible this 3 weeks of slalom racing across Europe.

It was nice to see all of you again, and it was a real pleasure to meet George, Cat, Skip and all racers we did not see before in Europe.
We are already planning our US trip for next year :D

Thank you Flavio, Dutch & GOG crew for Amsterdam Euros!
Maybe everything was not what we can expect for a main slalom event, but races were fair and competitive (even with timing system issues) and we had fun. We hope to come again next year.

Thank all the Czech guys too. Policka is also a place we want to come back in 2009.
You guys were really friendly and organisation was perfect.
Maybe you just need another race place for the special slalom (eg giant place, with parallel races)

And last but not least thanks to the Gothenburg crew for holding the Worlds : for sure one of the biggest competiton ever. You deal with rain issues and make everything happen.
Just a thought : 80 euros is pretty expensive for racers when there is no meal in the package.

Another general thought : women category should always be consider as PRO. We can't ask for more ladys to come racing, when this is often this category wich suffer from schedule & timing issues. It must always be Women finals, even for 2 or 4 racers ! it take only few minuts.

Hope to see most of you in Grenoble

Guillaume & Sandrine

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Post by Janis kuzmins » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:15 pm

want to say thankyou for trying to make competition posible. Still did not understend why one no money competition change to other one no money competition?

ps.
overall for pros is wrong. 1+3+4=8 and 1+2+6=9

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:39 pm

Henrik Wadsten wrote:Pro hybrid results are wrong. The list Flavio show here is qualifing times. Not the final standing.
Thanks Henrik, it is been fixed now.

The AM´s will be on later this eve.

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Post by Flavio Badenes » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:38 pm

Cat Young wrote:Women's results please Flavio.

I believe Kathrin kicked a$$ again!
Done!

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Post by Henrik Wadsten » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:44 pm

Pro hybrid results are wrong. The list Flavio show here is qualifing times. Not the final standing.

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Re: complete results

Post by Marcus Seyffarth » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:22 pm

Cat - all results except the overall could be found at:

http://www.worldcupranking.com/live

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Post by Cat Young » Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:49 pm

Women's results please Flavio.

I believe Kathrin kicked a$$ again!
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Re: Results

Post by Flavio Badenes » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:38 pm

Sam Gordon wrote:He he!

As a matter of interest, have I missed where the European overall Pro and Am results are listed, or are these still in the process of being worked out?

Sam
Here are the PRO's results

PRO - Hybrid:

1 Dominik Kowalski 12.851
2 Christoph Baumann 13.146
3 Ramón Königshausen 13.184
4 Janis Kuzmins 13.306
5 George Pappas 13.356
6 Mikael Hadestrand 13.444
7 Henrik Wadsten 13.449
8 Paul Price 13.863
9 Michael Stride 14.658
10 Gints Gailitis 15.525


PRO - Special:

1 Janis Kuzmins 14.232
2 Ramón Königshausen 13.541
3 Henrik Wadsten 14.431
4 Christoph Baumann 14.603
5 Mikael Hadestrand 14.246
6 Dominik Kowalski 14.363
7 George Pappas 14.633
8 Paul Price 14.843
9 Michael Stride 15.052
10 Gints Gailitis 16.407
11 Peter Klang 0.000
12 Simon Feldmann 0.000

PRO - GIANT SLALOM:

1 Ramón Königshausen 14.585
2 Dominik Kowalski 14.908
3 George Pappas 15.061
4 Janis Kuzmins 15.380
5 Henrik Wadsten 15.471
6 Christoph Baumann 15.492
7 Mikael Hadestrand 15.666
8 Paul Price 16.506
9 Gints Gailitis 17.011
10 Michael Stride 17.214

Overall:

1 Ramón Königshausen

2 Dominik Kowalski

3 Janis Kuzmins

Congratulations to Ramon for the European title.

AM's results

AM's Hybrid:

1 Viking Hadestrand 14.330
2 Frank Beste 14.035
3 Robert Thiele 14.376
4 Michel Dupont 14.309
5 Antonio Saluena 14.120
6 Ainars Jermacenko 14.302
7 Carsten Pingel 14.565
8 Sam Gordon 14.958
9 Guillaume SAINT-CRIQ 14.813
10 Gustavs GAILITIS 14.871
11 Oliver Otten 14.884
12 Louis Selby 14.901
13 Holger Kindler 15.095
14 Viktor Hadestrand 15.097
15 Simon Feldmann 15.133
16 Skip Marcotte 15.176
17 Lars de Boom 14.302
18 CHRIS SCHÜTZ 15.195
19 Jean-sébastien Dennebouy 15.306
20 CHRISTOPHER DUPONT 15.338
21 Petr Novotny 15.405
22 BART BRUNNINKHUIS 16.304
23 Pete Scheerer 16.501
24 PAUL BRUNNINKHUIS 16.567
25 JAN MOOSLEHNER 17.188
26 Adrea Just 17.380
27 Ricardo DAMBORENEA 17.384
28 Kaj Gustafsson 17.905
29 ROB ASHBY 18.213
30 Jeroen Steggink 18.231
31 Borja Muñoz-Cuéllar Pérez-Plá 18.368
32 Ernst de Boom 20.362


AM's Special:

1 Antonio Saluena 13.690
2 Viking Hadestrand 13.800
3 Louis Selby 13.835
4 Sam Gordon 13.863
5 Robert Thiele 13.872
6 Michel Dupont 13.935
7 Viktor Hadestrand 14.070
8 Frank Beste 14.139
9 Oliver Otten 14.184
10 Gustavs GAILITIS 14.271
11 Skip Marcotte 14.444
12 Carsten Pingel 14.524
13 Guillaume SAINT-CRIQ 14.552
14 CHRISTOPHER DUPONT 14.732
15 Holger Kindler 14.751
16 Jean-sébastien Dennebouy 14.903
17 Donald Campbell 14.976
18 Simon Feldmann 15.483
19 Petr Novotny 15.600
20 Pierre Hazera 15.600
21 CHRIS SCHÜTZ 15.633
22 Ricardo DAMBORENEA 15.658
23 BART BRUNNINKHUIS 16.061
24 Pete Scheerer 16.317
25 PAUL BRUNNINKHUIS 16.756
26 FLAVIO BADENES 17.218
27 Kaj Gustafsson 17.271
28 JAN MOOSLEHNER 17.386
29 Juoel Bossmann 17.614
30 Jeroen Steggink 17.635
31 Jose Antonio Muñoz-Cuéllar 17.772
32 Ernst de Boom 19.543


AM's GIANT:

1 Viking Hadestrand 16.033
2 Frank Beste 16.171
3 Skip Marcotte 16.204
4 Robert Thiele 16.253
5 Gustavs GAILITIS 16.323
6 Antonio Saluena 16.420
7 Carsten Pingel 16.441
8 Oliver Otten 16.451
9 Sam Gordon 16.727
10 Viktor Hadestrand 16.729
11 CHRIS SCHÜTZ 16.810
12 Holger Kindler 16.913
13 Simon Feldmann 16.919
14 Guillaume SAINT-CRIQ 16.991
15 Pete Scheerer 17.010
16 Petr Novotny 17.033
17 Louis Selby 17.114
18 John Derhoult 17.226
19 Ainars Jermacenko 17.377
20 Donald Campbell 17.402
21 BART BRUNNINKHUIS 17.514
22 CHRISTOPHER DUPONT 17.576
23 Adrea Just 17.638
24 JAN MOOSLEHNER 17.809
25 PAUL BRUNNINKHUIS 17.917
26 Jean-sébastien Dennebouy 17.957
27 FLAVIO BADENES 17.996
28 Ernst de Boom 18.758
29 Martin Nijs 18.841
30 ROB ASHBY 19.056
31 Kaj Gustafsson 19.430
32 Juoel Bossmann 19.841
33 Jeroen Steggink 19.969
34 Mike Rutten 20.297
35 Lars de Boom 22.299
36 Peter Freme 0.000
37 Jose Antonio Muñoz-Cuéllar 0.000
38 Gints Gailitis 0.000
39 Michel Dupont 0.000
40 Borja Muñoz-Cuéllar Pérez-Plá 0.000
41 Ricardo DAMBORENEA 0.000
42 Cyril Schardijn 0.000

Women GS:


1 Kathrin Sehl 17.136
2 Joy SPEARING 17.929
3 Sandrine FERREIRA 18.131
4 Verena Völkl 18.655

Women Special:

1 Kathrin Sehl 14.935
2 Sandrine FERREIRA 15.626
3 Verena Völkl 0.000
4 Joy SPEARING 0.000

Women Hybrid:

1 Kathrin Sehl 15.673
2 Sandrine FERREIRA 16.563
3 Joy SPEARING null.0
4 Verena Völkl 21.130


Overall:

1 Kathrin Sehl

2 Sandrine FERREIRA

3 Joy SPEARING

Congratulations to Kathrin Sehl Overall European Champion




I will post the overall results for AM´s from home later.
I am kind of demotivated after having worked hard, very hard, for this contest and having to put up with all the sarcasm and unfounded gossips. But I will be sorting things out eventually.
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Post by Sam Gordon » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:53 am

He he!

As a matter of interest, have I missed where the European overall Pro and Am results are listed, or are these still in the process of being worked out?

Sam

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Post by Ramón Königshausen » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:05 pm

Well, seems like for me it was great preparation: 853km from Samstagern, Fälmis to Amsterdam, Sloten.

thanks to the best humoured slalomer out there!

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Post by Carsten Pingel » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:25 pm

Sam "Sherlock" Gordon has definetely found out why I was so slow at the Euro's in Amsterdam!
From Cologne to Amsterdam it's about legburning 250km!! :-)

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Post by Sam Gordon » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:44 pm

Did anyone notice one of the multi-talented Hadestrand boys leading out the peleton amongst the framed photographs in the cycle track cafe?

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In another world I'd suggest that Berlin Ollie is just over his left shoulder, with Ramon and Carsten on his right.

And the office says I'm rubbish at looky likees.

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Post by Jani Soderhall » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:34 am

Pictures from Gints Gailitis:

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Post by Rob Ashby » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:43 pm

Not having been to a European race since Paris I was amazed to see how much faster everyone has got since then. It was just a shame both my ability to skate and negotiate cones took most of the day off only returning in the latter part of the day!

It was good to catch up with everyone again though, especially Paul, Bart and Cyril. I will look forward to racing with Martijn next year when he has GOG’s on his new DK model!

A big thank you to Flavio and the Dutch Crew and of course Donald and the GOG for all of their hard work and ensuring that everything happened.
I would also like to pass my thanks on to Joop and his wife from the Café Rooseboom (?) for keeping us supplied with coffee, beer, chips and croquets over the weekend!

There was some really good close racing over the two days and it was good to see some of it make it on to RTL, TV coverage is good for us.

Congratulations to all the winners, and of course well done to Louis who took home a “Bronze medal” for Team GB – although I didn’t hear anything about that one on the BBC, ha, ha!

Here’s the link to my photo’s from the weekend:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robs_galle ... 814690548/

Enjoy!

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Post by Cat Young » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:02 pm

Nice pictures Sammy!
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Re: Amsterdam snaps

Post by Robert Gaisek » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:02 pm

Sam Gordon wrote:http://www.flickr.com/photos/samg/sets/ ... 814083746/

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Thanks Flavio, Donald and the Dutch team!

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/samg/sets/ ... 814083746/

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CONGRATS ANTONIO AND VIKING!!!! (and Selby too)
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